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Posted by: Prophet of the Pimps 3 Jun 2009, 22:51
so basically MS if giving you their best OS ever for a year for free. So why aren't you running it? Basically the only valid answer is that your hardware is more then 3 years old. or else 7 runs faster then XP on newer Hardware and has fixed 99% of things that was wrong in vista.
Posted by: The_Hunter 3 Jun 2009, 22:58
i\m not running it becouse i cannot be arsed to reinstall my whole system and there is no garantue all my software will work on 7.
Posted by: Prophet of the Pimps 3 Jun 2009, 23:02
you running XP or vista? Its a straight of upgrade and all software work on it. and if they dont 7 warns you about it before proceeding with the install. hell i directly ported every setting from vista to, 7 pre beta, beta and then Rc. Thats four successful upgrades.
Posted by: The_Hunter 3 Jun 2009, 23:05
both actualy i'm running vista on my laptop and XP on my pc.
Posted by: Prophet of the Pimps 3 Jun 2009, 23:10
updating from XP to 7 is a bitch but try it on the lappy. i assure you, you will not regret it.
Posted by: Rayburn 3 Jun 2009, 23:15
I'm still running XP but now that you mention it, I might switch to 7 early next year, mainly because I may get a hardware update
for Christmas. This'll go with a complete system restoration from the ground up which is something I usually try to do every 2-3 years.
Posted by: The_Hunter 3 Jun 2009, 23:18
^ That's probably what i will do aswell.
Posted by: Wi-Ta 4 Jun 2009, 0:10
I think i will wait fore some updates.
Then i give it a try on a own hard disk.
Why ?
You can say i am a burnd child because of vista.
Posted by: blowthebullet 4 Jun 2009, 0:43
im not going to windows 7 this year, maybe early next year with some hardware-upgrades (if there is no driver issue like vista). What about the new DX11 API, is this only going to work on windows 7 ? and what is so special about it because ATI has shown his first GPU (RV870) to the public that support DX11 and i hope that it will not be dx10 scenario over again like: you must buy win7 for DX11 etc...
Posted by: Comr4de 4 Jun 2009, 1:43
I want it but I don't want to upgrade just yet. Likely whenever I do another major computer upgrade.
Posted by: Prophet of the Pimps 4 Jun 2009, 10:08
i have installed windows 7 on close to 7 different computers and only a sony vaio was a bithc with the drivers. Everything else worked out of the box or just needed a net connection to grab the drivers from windows update. And the PC range from Netbooks, toi7 beasts, to a p4 with a only 512 mb or ram. it ran on all with zero issues.
Posted by: The_Hunter 4 Jun 2009, 12:21
what happens when windows 7 goes live however ?
Posted by: Comr4de 4 Jun 2009, 14:47
From what I heard the version you get is good for an entire year so you may get the real deal in the middle of it. Right after that time period is over however, you may just have to buy it.
Posted by: The_Hunter 4 Jun 2009, 14:52
Pure gold.
Posted by: Prophet of the Pimps 5 Jun 2009, 13:47
you can use it till feb end with n0 issues. After that it will be on for two hours after initiating a shut down. On June it will deactivate. And you can by editing a single text file in the final windows 7 retail version to update Windows 7 Rc to the final version so all your settings and app get transferred with zero issues. Migration from Vista and 7 beta builds to final is a very very painles process if you are 100% sure your Pc is not infected with a virus.
Posted by: Dutchygamer 6 Jun 2009, 13:34
I wait until the official release, and until I need to reinstall my OS (because of problems or something). I've had bad results the last time I installed an OS 
Posted by: -Xv- 6 Jun 2009, 14:36
I'm still happy with my XP Pro Ty.
Don't fix what isn't broken.
Posted by: Comr4de 6 Jun 2009, 14:39
Don't fix what isn't broken.
Agreed
(your iconic smiley has returned 'pimp)
Posted by: Revan 6 Jun 2009, 14:58
Because it is not certain that Windows 7 does not contain DRM mechanisms, for example on some pages it is stated that it sabotages your audio card so you cannot re-record music.
Posted by: Beef 7 Jun 2009, 4:32
I've been using the RC alongside Vista and Ubuntu 9.04. I'm waiting for when I can completely dump Vista and its sluggishness. We'll see what happens soon.
Posted by: Alias 7 Jun 2009, 5:56
Not running it as I have no need to run Windoze anymore.
Posted by: Ascendancy 7 Jun 2009, 7:40
Because I have yet to build a tower capable of doing so. And by the time I do the non-RC version of Windows 7 will be out.
Posted by: SgtRho 7 Jun 2009, 11:50
I might upgrade to it during summer vacations.
I don't have it yet due to my 4 year old mainboard and CPU...
Posted by: Prophet of the Pimps 7 Jun 2009, 12:18
What? I have it running on my netbook and i just installed it on a old p4 with 512 mb of ddr1 ram and it ran as good as xp.
Also October 22nd is the release.
Posted by: RaiDK 7 Jun 2009, 14:54
Running 7 on 3 computers since the beginning of the year. Loving it and would never go back to XP.
Posted by: Pickysaurus 7 Jun 2009, 17:39
I'm not running it because the current RC lacks a mail client.
I used Vista's default Windows Mail
Posted by: Nidmeister 7 Jun 2009, 19:08
Funnily enough, I'm downloading it now.
I've heard some great reviews, and I've been meaning to get it for a while.
Posted by: Destiny 7 Jun 2009, 19:47
I'd be lying if didn't I say a lot of software was made with XP in mind. But yea, I'm sticking to XP...
...until 7 is finally done 
Posted by: Shock 7 Jun 2009, 20:39
After which you will get Windows 7 Professional in order to use the Windows XP mode 
Posted by: Thez 7 Jun 2009, 23:50
XP works fine so far, why fix what ain't broke.
When it does break and I have an excuse for an overhaul, I'll get it.
Till then I can't really be arsed to do it just yet.
Posted by: Ascendancy 8 Jun 2009, 3:13
Also October 22nd is the release.
As much as it's probably useful on such an old tower of mine (P4 @ 2.4 GHz, 1.5 GB of DDR SDRAM PC2100), I decided that I'll just wait until I build my new tower which is gonna be comprised of at the minimum 4 GB of DDR2 800 RAM, an AMD Phenom II X4 940/955 Black Edition on an ASUS M4A78 Plus motherboard.
I know what I'm building in the near future and I might as well use what I have now because what isn't broken shouldn't be fixed. As much as I'm unhappy with my tower now...it has given me plenty of years of service with XP.
Posted by: Beef 8 Jun 2009, 5:22
I know what I'm building in the near future and I might as well use what I have now because what isn't broken shouldn't be fixed. As much as I'm unhappy with my tower now...it has given me plenty of years of service with XP.
If you're getting an AM3 CPU, might as well get some DDR3 ram like I did.
Posted by: RaiDK 8 Jun 2009, 9:52
When it does break and I have an excuse for an overhaul, I'll get it.
Till then I can't really be arsed to do it just yet.
It runs a lot better on modern machines.
Posted by: Overdose 8 Jun 2009, 11:25
I'll just wait for a release because some of my favorite games have issues with it.
Posted by: Shock 8 Jun 2009, 13:53
Too bad the release is pretty late, I'm seeking a new laptop for University but that will have to be here before the 22nd of October..
Posted by: Crazykenny 8 Jun 2009, 15:38
Dunno why I'm not running it, probably because I got used to Windows Vista Ultimate.
Posted by: RaiDK 8 Jun 2009, 15:54
Windows 7 is to Vista as 98 was to 95.
Posted by: Beef 8 Jun 2009, 16:13
People who get Vista systems after June get a free upgrade to Win7
http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?pgno=1&artno=609
EDIT: I FAILED
Posted by: Crazykenny 8 Jun 2009, 17:09
Well, it has treated me well so far. I'll install Windows 7 upon my first BSoD?
Posted by: Nidmeister 8 Jun 2009, 18:16
http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?pgno=1&artno=609
A free upgrade from Vista to Vista must be the best thing Microsoft has ever thought of.
Posted by: Beef 8 Jun 2009, 18:46
shit I fajled....
Posted by: Crazykenny 8 Jun 2009, 19:45
Yes, epicly if I may note.
Posted by: Soho 9 Jun 2009, 13:01
Why would I change vista for 7?
Posted by: Crazykenny 9 Jun 2009, 13:06
Its less system hogging.
Posted by: Waris 9 Jun 2009, 13:24
How does Win7 handle audio? Is it similar to Vista (in handling audio streams)?
Posted by: blowthebullet 9 Jun 2009, 14:12
The three rule of upgrading to a new OS:
if your system is running good and you have no plans upgrading your hardware or move to a new computer.
- don't make a change.
if you upgrade your computer with new memory or add a harddisk that works good with your current OS.
- dont't make a change.
if you buy a new pc our make a huge upgrade (motherboard, cpu, gpu and memory).
- look at it and make a choice for yourself 
People that are trying the last development version have a change that they are getting a error or BSOD so they have much work to get it going (im not going to try it so upgrade in early 2010) and with the thing 'its running smoother' or 'its just shiny' are retarded to say because thats a opinion and no reason.
People, think about a good reason why i should upgrade to windows 7.
for me OS == OS, it's just operates your system and nothing else, so windows 7 is for me the same like vista and xp because windows 7 operates the system only in a other way then windows xp and that fluffy stuff like a beautiful glass taskbar ? not important for me.
BTW, benchmarks show me that windows 7 is equal preforming like windows xp. http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-7424-view-Windows-7-vs-windows-vista-vs-windows-xp.html
Posted by: silence 9 Jun 2009, 20:06
when the final version of Win7 will be released, then I'll use it on my other rig.
Posted by: Sanctum 10 Jun 2009, 0:19
DirectX 11 will be for Windows Vista as well as Windows 7.
I used Vista's default Windows Mail
Microsoft removed Windows Mail because they'd prefer you get Windows Live Mail instead. They did the same with Windows Photo Gallery (7 comes with Windows Photo Viewer instead) and Windows Movie Maker.
Posted by: Beef 10 Jun 2009, 3:45
Microsoft removed Windows Mail because they'd prefer you get Windows Live Mail instead. They did the same with Windows Photo Gallery (7 comes with Windows Photo Viewer instead) and Windows Movie Maker.
This reduces bloat in the OS as not everybody used those programs. Now they are optional downloads from Windows Live. A smart move I would say.
Posted by: oo6red 10 Jun 2009, 8:13
I don't ever run OS versions that aren't final...and I only have one machine now anyway...
Posted by: Chyros 10 Jun 2009, 9:44
Last time I ordered a computer, I specifically asked to have XP installed on it, as opposed to the then standard Vista. So next time, I should ask for win7?
Posted by: Prophet of the Pimps 10 Jun 2009, 10:25
if you have an IQ of more then a Tomato then YES.
XP is a security nightmare and the way i have setup windows 7 (Separate admin account from the daily use account), Its almost bullet proof. Might i even say as secure as Linux.
Posted by: Crazykenny 10 Jun 2009, 10:54
XP is a security nightmare and the way i have setup windows 7 (Separate admin account from the daily use account), Its almost bullet proof. Might i even say as secure as Linux.
You got some more info on that? Because if you can really make it less of a security risk that previous OSes I might switch over.
Posted by: Alias 10 Jun 2009, 11:09
Windoze needs sudo.
Posted by: Crazykenny 10 Jun 2009, 11:57
SUDO Kill?
Posted by: blowthebullet 10 Jun 2009, 13:56
XP is a security nightmare and the way i have setup windows 7 (Separate admin account from the daily use account), Its almost bullet proof. Might i even say as secure as Linux.
Hooo, just give me a sec
. It's just the same security as windows vista, and yes you can disable it as well http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Security_Center. Linux has a good filesystem with user permissions in it. No other than the root can edit system files and folders 
. if you add a user in linux you can give him premissions by calling the command: chown likechown -R user:usergroup /home/thismap http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system_permissions
Microsoft must learn so much from linux and macosx because:
1. The security sucks, it is already hackt and its just a modified version of windows vista security.
2. The user must have no contact with security isue's or controlpanels, when install a program enter your root password. when the program must have acces to the windows core ask for the root password with a warning of trojan etc... (just simple
Instead of building it in the IO system like a new NTFS they build a extra service :S, you can easy disable a service if you were a hacker so security will fail ....
Posted by: Beef 10 Jun 2009, 15:12
That's what you should be doing if you only do have one machine.
. It's just the same security as windows vista, and yes you can disable it as well http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Security_Center. Linux has a good filesystem with user permissions in it. No other than the root can edit system files and folders . if you add a user in linux you can give him premissions by calling the command: chown likechown -R user:usergroup /home/thismap http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system_permissions
Microsoft must learn so much from linux and macosx because:
1. The security sucks, it is already hackt and its just a modified version of windows vista security.
2. The user must have no contact with security isue's or controlpanels, when install a program enter your root password. when the program must have acces to the windows core ask for the root password with a warning of trojan etc... (just simple
Instead of building it in the IO system like a new NTFS they build a extra service :S, you can easy disable a service if you were a hacker so security will fail ....
Indeed, Linux is mighty useful. If only more software was optimized for it. I would replace Windows completely with it. That said Windows 7 is a great user experience and I've never had security issues myself since I switched to the Vista kernel.
Posted by: DerKrieger 11 Jun 2009, 6:26
When it does break and I have an excuse for an overhaul, I'll get it.
Till then I can't really be arsed to do it just yet.
My thoughts exactly.
Posted by: Prophet of the Pimps 12 Jun 2009, 13:16
Thats exactly what i have. The UAC is the best thing ever when clubbed with a Admin account
i have been meaning to write a whole detailed article on it but havent found the time.
But the basics are
create an password protected admin account
demote your everyday account to standard user account
UAC prompts up when a file install needs to be done. Keeps your computer safe because you don't need a password prompt for opening "Britney nude.jpg.exe". Basically gives people 3 more second to consider their stupidity.
hell i get less admin prompts in 7 then i do in ubuntu.
As long as you run your windows 7 PC on the same principle that ubuntu does then you will have bullet proof PC.
also you have the same exact file permission option like you have in linux so thats no longer a big point. people just need to know how to configure it.
Posted by: -Xv- 12 Jun 2009, 13:59
Yeah so, I just got a ne hard drive, freshly formatted, so I thoguht I'd have a dual boot machine with XP Pro and Win 7, guess what -> Win7 wont install on the new hard drive saying something about it being a dynamic hard drive. It doesn't matter if I have it allocated or not formatted or not formatted... Go Win 7! You are awesome!
HD is a WD Caviar Black, 640 gig.
Posted by: Pickysaurus 12 Jun 2009, 15:02
HD is a WD Caviar Black, 640 gig.
And Microsoft boast it to be the most compatible OS with any hardware
Suppose it is still in the testing stages though
Posted by: Prophet of the Pimps 12 Jun 2009, 18:06
i have configured over 11 computers with windows 7 and only one that was a sony vaio had a hardware problem. the rest have been flawless. Have you tried partitioning it using the built in tools?
Posted by: -Xv- 13 Jun 2009, 2:12
Yeah so, I just got another HD, (Seagate barracuda) 250 gig, more suited size for being an OS drive, but its only an 8mb cache and a shitload slower then the caviar :/.. Its installing as I'm typing this
Posted by: Beef 13 Jun 2009, 5:47
http://www.onlinecomputertips.com/hardware/basic_dynamic.html
I found this and wondered why is your drive dynamic in the first place? Format it all over again and keep it basic.
Posted by: Crazykenny 13 Jun 2009, 14:49
A normal person would hardly need a dynamic HD.
Posted by: -Xv- 14 Jun 2009, 2:12
Well explain to me how a freshly bought, never before used HD, and freshly formatted would be a dynamic HD. And I did reformat it several times. Cuz Idk, and disk management doesn't say its dynamic. and it installed on the Seagate np :/
Anyways, its basically Vista, yay.... I hated is interface in the first place, or maybe I'm just too used to XP. I'll switch when I put my new rig together later on in the summer, but mainly because of dx10/11 :/ Good call Microsoft.
Posted by: Crazykenny 14 Jun 2009, 16:19
You could always return the disk if it still has warranty, and explain them your problem.
Posted by: Nix 16 Jun 2009, 7:22
It's funny really. The biggest problem that windows has always had regarding security is not that it's super buggy, but rather, it's default settings have generally sucked.
Posted by: Pickysaurus 16 Jun 2009, 11:47
Windows is actually the most secure. For example, Windows Live One Care is one of the best protection programs out there. Vista was set up to be far too secure where it wasn't needed.
I can say these problems have been fixed in Windows 7
Posted by: C.o.m.m.a.n.d.e.r 16 Jun 2009, 13:22
ive been thru xp, vista, and now windows 7 in less than a year and so far im not regretting it. imo its more stable than vista ever will be and its still in beta very sad. also, cant wait to see what gaming companies do with directX 11 considering the max settings for Crysis were only for 10 which kinda sucked since it was on such a faulty OS
Posted by: Crazykenny 16 Jun 2009, 13:24
If Vista is such a faulty OS, might you wanna explain to me why I have run it flawlessly for years on a row now? I got a lecture for all your Vista haters I'm gonna dig up soon if this continues
Posted by: Alias 16 Jun 2009, 13:34
/argument
Posted by: Crazykenny 16 Jun 2009, 13:48
/argument
Or you.
EDIT: Before you read this, take into account I didnt only test Windows operating systems but MAC OSX and Linux (Ubuntu) aswell.
I agree that Vista is quite system-hogging, but considering what kinda hardware is on the market today that shouldnt be to much of a problem. By this I don't immediately wanna say Windows XP is bad, no completely the opposite, its good and runs well on pretty much all computers.
The reason why Vista really wins my heart is, yeah how stupid it may sound, DirectX10, I'm a gamer and I do spot every little detail. I know people have made mods for XP so it supports DirectX10, but its not the same.
The close this all off: XP is a old OS and Vista is infact a step forward (even with some of the bugs). Besides you cant stick with Windows XP forever. Infact how did you think things where like when Windows 98 was everything and all of a sudden M$ brought XP on the market, people where sceptic aswell back then, its totally understandable. Afraid of the unknown maybe? tounge.gif
But in the end, its a opinion, if you like XP better then its fine by me.
Just my 2 cents on this.
Posted by: C.o.m.m.a.n.d.e.r 16 Jun 2009, 13:57
i gave it blue screen of death upon first use, it constantly ran my cores at around 50% and my ram above 80% and that was just ideling, almost all my games kept getting minimized when started up and would not stop upon maximizing over and over again the only way to fix this was to edit the properties of each game, and i plugged an ethernet cord into my friends computer running vista when he went to bridge the connections another blue screen. were as now my computer ideling is running very happy at around 1-2% core usage and 30% ram it makes my computer smile. and thats all i have to say were as this could get very off topic and lead itself to the loony bin.
so back to the topic...(zombie voice)you must run on windows 7
Posted by: Crazykenny 16 Jun 2009, 14:32
Then its you hardware that is lacking, not the OS. Vista loves to have more then 2GB of RAM and a Quad-Core.
EDIT: Here is a screen of my weaker systems running a PC Wizard Benchmark whilest having WMP running a 7.6GB music album. This all done on Windows Vista 64x. Like I said if you got a rig from 2007-2009 Vista wont be a problem and you could enjoy it properly. I do know Vista is more prone giving bluescreens whilest being run on older hardware.
Posted by: Alias 16 Jun 2009, 15:48
I doubt you've tested OS X to the proper level, not to mention Ubuntu is only one distro.
Posted by: Crazykenny 16 Jun 2009, 16:54
AKA "I'm so full of memory leaks that I take up 4 times the amount I need".
Well one of my laptops is running on OS X, which I use for web and graphic design. And yeah, sofar Ubuntu is the only version of Linux that I tested/used.
Posted by: Alias 16 Jun 2009, 17:07
Mind giving us a photo of said laptop running said OS, because I seriously don't believe that you're running a Hackintosh, and I believe even less that you actually have a Mac.
To be honest what it looks like is you're just trying to say you've tried the alternative without actually doing it.
Posted by: Crazykenny 16 Jun 2009, 17:18
To be honest what it looks like is you're just trying to say you've tried the alternative without actually doing it.
Alias, I dont know what the hell your problem is, but in all seriousness I dont need to prove myself to you. And the Mac in question is something they gave along from school for our study. But if you really wanna fight me on every software/hardware thread I reply to be my guest, but I have to say its starting to piss me off.
And yes I tried the alternative but I ACTUALLY tried it and not just say it as your putting it. Yes, all OS's have pro's and con's and all are unique. Windows is just handy for games and basic internet use same goes for Linux and Mac OS X just excels when it comes to graphic design. That being said this will be the last time I'm gonna reply to the nonesense replies you may post on this.
Now, back on topic (Windows 7) I think I've steered it away from the subject long enough.
Posted by: RaiDK 16 Jun 2009, 17:48
Windows 7 doesn't use much less memory, but it's generally a lot more responsive.
Posted by: Pickysaurus 16 Jun 2009, 19:20
Windows OS are always responsive after a clean install. As soon as you start putting 3rd party software on them. They slow down.
Posted by: Prophet of the Pimps 16 Jun 2009, 20:27
Haven't experienced any slowdowns so far. And it is loaded with all the apps that i use and games too. Also this thread is about Windows 7. If someone wants to talk about another OS then make a new thread about it. I dont want any Mac Vs Windows Vs Linux bitching.
Posted by: Nix 17 Jun 2009, 2:49
Agreed. OS debates are no better than religion or politics threads.
Posted by: Crazykenny 17 Jun 2009, 3:15
And what exactly did you contribute by saying something thats already said? *sigh*
Posted by: The_Hunter 17 Jun 2009, 9:56
I find this specialy funny comming from you Kenny when 8 out of 10 of your posts consist " "Thread subject" looks awesome
" so i suggest you fix your own posting before you start telling someone else how it's done 
And now back on topic please.
Posted by: Pickysaurus 17 Jun 2009, 16:47
I am not running 7 yet because it's not finished.
Posted by: Crazykenny 17 Jun 2009, 17:51
" so i suggest you fix your own posting before you start telling someone else how it's done And now back on topic please.
And so does the post of 80% of the folks here, so basicly, if I like something that I cant critize upon I need to shut up? Okay...
Posted by: RaiDK 17 Jun 2009, 17:54
It's more finished than Vista will ever be.
Posted by: Pickysaurus 17 Jun 2009, 19:50
I have used the Beta and it has some vast improvements on Vista.
However, it lacks a default mail client... and some command-line compatibility with certain older programs.
Also it doesn't seem to work with TWAIN very well :S
Posted by: Nix 18 Jun 2009, 5:26
However, it lacks a default mail client... and some command-line compatibility with certain older programs.
Also it doesn't seem to work with TWAIN very well :S
Curious, why do you want a default mail client? There are plenty of others that can just be downloaded.
Also, as far a compatibility goes, if it's not a program you use constantly, you could try getting Virtualbox and running older versions of windows in it.
But I have Vista myself, and I'm with you as far as waiting for a "done" release.
Posted by: RaiDK 18 Jun 2009, 6:51
I use dosbox for any older dos programs.
Posted by: C.o.m.m.a.n.d.e.r 18 Jun 2009, 7:30
good program. altho im quite surprised ppl still use dos programs the only game that i have that uses dos is the original warcraft 1 and 2
Posted by: RaiDK 18 Jun 2009, 10:04
Yeah, I only use it for old DOS games
Posted by: Prophet of the Pimps 18 Jun 2009, 11:09
However, it lacks a default mail client... and some command-line compatibility with certain older programs.
Also it doesn't seem to work with TWAIN very well :S
MS took out a lot of stuff due to people bitching about anti competitiveness. Movie maker, live messenger, photo gallery and live mail all are now add ons that you have to get separately.
Posted by: -Xv- 18 Jun 2009, 12:58
Well.. I havent' used it much, as I don't like this "streamlined" look, or maybe I'm just too accustomed to my "old-style" windows look (win95t hru xp)
I cant get irc to run on win7, which is weird to begin with. I also can't get a few other programs to run which xpro never had a complaint about... and when I first started up the TV and extended the desktop on it (its how I watch most of my movies) it crashed ati..., I tried a few things, changing settings, Reinstalled drivers etc..but I can't get it to work, and it works fine with XP.
So far, the ONLY reason I would find myself upgrading to Win7 over the summer on my newly built rig is Directx11, nice pull Microsoft.
Call me biased, or having just bad luck, im stickin with xp: /
Posted by: Pickysaurus 18 Jun 2009, 14:32
Also, as far a compatibility goes, if it's not a program you use constantly, you could try getting Virtualbox and running older versions of windows in it.
But I have Vista myself, and I'm with you as far as waiting for a "done" release.
I prefer to use Outlook Express (Pre-Vista) and Windows Mail (Post-Vista). Mainly because they are built into the OS and require no download to install. Alot of third party software bugger up my registry *cough* Opera *cough*
Well it's simple commands, like when I was installing my scanner. It is supposed to extract the file and run a batch file to begin the installer. However, the Cmd Line program came up and complained of a missing file. This installation works flawlessly on XP & Vista.
Posted by: Nix 18 Jun 2009, 17:41
Ah. In that case it is merely a case of people in suits saying you can't have nice things.
Oh, that's quite a bit different then.
Posted by: Beef 24 Jun 2009, 5:13
Well it's simple commands, like when I was installing my scanner. It is supposed to extract the file and run a batch file to begin the installer. However, the Cmd Line program came up and complained of a missing file. This installation works flawlessly on XP & Vista.
Have you tried Mozilla Thunderbird? It isn't MS outlook but works just as well as Outlook Express IMO.
Posted by: Pickysaurus 24 Jun 2009, 12:46
If I wanted to download a mail client I'd probably use Windows Live Mail (same as Windows mail but linked with your hotmail account).
Just prefer to use the one that the OS supplies
Posted by: agawtrip 31 May 2010, 14:04
some says 2GB of RAM is not enough for gaming in windows 7, so that's why im still using XP.
i'll wait for the service pack 1 this june or july and read reviews and benchmarks....
Posted by: Shock 31 May 2010, 22:34
agawtrip, welcome to the forums. You may want to read the http://forums.swr-productions.com/index.php?act=boardrules. You should look at the date of the last post in a topic before replying to it, as this topic is just short of being one year old.
This is called necromancing and unless you have a very good reason, that is discouraged. In this case if you want to restart a discussion on Windows 7 I'd recommend you to start a new topic.
in b4 ''epic necro omfgz'' comment
Posted by: Pickysaurus 1 Jun 2010, 12:58
Edit: Nevermind
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