I was playing the demo general when suddenly, while I was loading my battle buses with grenadiers, some giant swarm got me. I was playing on easy! I fought hard but his SCUDS got my army. ANY HELP OUT THERE?
Dont expand too fast, stay away from the edges of the cliff and dont capture ANYTHING not even the machine gun nest as i have found they tend to attack you shortly after you capture something. Only capture when you can properly defend yourself and whatever your capturing
Dont think this belongs to the China section.
This is mostly just very hard for Thrax. Thrax sucks especially in Challenge mode since his units are very underpowered against just about any unit in any of the challenges and he can't use any of his specialties to any effect, while all his disadvantages count even more gravely; buggies cost more, ambush is much more impotent, Pythons can't do anything well, mobs can't get upgraded, etc.
Yes, but this does not change the fact the map is bugged. The whole map is shrouded as well.
AFAIK when the map is first revealed and THEN refogged (alpha fog, not the black one), stealth buildings are not visible.
The only thing I don't like is the stupid eternal rebuild- scud storm, forcing you to focus on building at least one or two asap and keep firing his down. A mindless continuity.
Besides that the map design and looks are pretty outdated, but that's not really the point.
I beat him on hard while playing as Alexander... didn't find it all that difficult...
People should think before they post eh ? yeh i found it diffcult but i eventually beat it but i dont remember how
STILL could not destroy juhziz. And zhao, I tried the "Offence is a better defence but combat cycles got me. Any more tips?
Keep the tips flowing
OK. Now lets talk about China generals.
First Fai, which FortGatCannons have a good probability of surviving. Build them in the formation mentioned above and you will beat him in no time. Use GatAPCs for fast transport and counter. His helixes are the most useful filled with a good combo of Minigunners and DBtank hunters.
Next is Tao, his is tricky as his defenses are underpowered compared to another ones. so use groups of gattanks and devastators or overlords. As these are expensive, Juhziz forces will target them. Remember to support with nuke migs.
Kwai can easily destroy missiles and cycles with his AP gatcannons. So place them in formations and support with Razors.
Leangs ones are the most expensive of all, but the most useful. Sentinel cannons are a difficult to beat defense. Just place them in a line and youre saved. It is difficult, so back up with gattanks first. Then with migs and bombers.
Ill post more tips later.
I think the problem with this stage is there is almost no difference (maybe really no difference) between easy, normal and hard difficulty.
Even in easy there already terror bikes hunting player dozers at start. I think there should be some time handicaps for easier levels.
Wow..... you dont need more then 2 defenses Things could be done way easier making armies and i can prove how , you guys are probably playing on easy mode anyways.....
ill upload a few compstomps vs AIs when i return home from school
As soon as you get your eco sorted this challenge is essentially in the bag.
Will someone from the developing team tell me if this map will be remade so that the bugs go away and that there are handicaps for easy?
How about you actually do what i taught you to do on hamachi... and get better
I agree. Жao, get a win replay hard-mode up, then we will talk further.
USA is not really 'tricky' as they have very good aircraft.
Aircraft > anything Juhziz throws at you.
Sorry , today is friday for me so ill upload 3 Replays of me vs hard armies and prove that armies are better
WITH 10k on tournament desert
<.< Useless when the discussion is about Thrax vs Juhziz Hard GC.
More useful then you think it is
edit: is there a way to upload a GC replay?
Use a recorder program and post it on youtube, else not to my knowledge.
Fraps any good?
people say it is but i always get poor quality
Quality doesn't matter as long as we see the gameplay.
I cant compress it enouf Im getting like 20 GB for the entire game
That is obviously too much. Sure you wrote the right letter? Anyway, ask Massey or Mike about that matter, they should know what to do.
Not true at all, commanche spam Pwns all.
Because its OP
Your also base everything on your prospective as i am mine /and all the other betatesters
Your probably not good with AFG are you?
Жao, I say it again, we are talking about the Generals Challenge here, not some AI skirmish. You have to defend, build up AND attack at the same time while your enemy has a full base (1 and a half actually). I have no idea where you get your money from anyway before Juhziz blows you up, really.
Yes but im not talking about some Skirmish AI eaither
Commanche spam does really own alot as the commanches have a Extremely decent amount of Armor , just put two afg defenses up on both flanks one ranger in the pillbox Chillax build up a eco and win , infact he has stealth fighters that down his defenses and Sneak attacks rather quickly
COUNTER MEASURES ARE WIN
It cannot, considering the fact those come in pairs or triplets, and since they have a decent AoD, terror bikes speak for themselves.
Toxin? lots and lots of Tunnels + Rocket buggies + Scoruges + AA (Stinger site clearing) pythons + jarmen kell and rader van and alot of expansion with lots and lots of micro.
besides Units can take care of demo bikes
I played against Demo with Thrax on "Hard" for the first time ever, and won by making 5 SCUD storms and using sneak attacks. My defenses were more than enough for his forces, IMO it is fair to say he's very much beatable on "Hard".
The scud storms were necessary because I figured his stinger sites would just shoot down scourge missiles.
Just kill his SCUD Storm with 2 of your own, then sneak attack and destroy him from the inside out. Don't bother trying to make your way through the front (though it's possible to win like that, it'll take x2 as long). Survive early on by garrisoning 2 RPGs at the top left bunker, put a toxrebel in the MG bunker, and get a 3chev fully scrapped technical to deal with enemies. At the bottom, just make 2 tunnels and forget about it. Then get a few scorps, at the same time tech and make black markets and a few more defenses. I didn't start building my first SCUDSTORM until he already hit me with his, which actually didn't do much because there were no toxins to delay me from rebuilding lol. He hit me twice or 3 times (forgot) before I killed his SW. Spam black markets for money, then win.
Take 1 level of rebel ambush and use it when necessary against his artillery units, often he'll try to go under the cliff with TOPOLs, which is a perfect place for the rebel ambush, since there are buildings to garrison too
I spent my points on 3Cash Bounty, Anthrax Bomb, Sneak Attack, 1Rebel Ambush, Scrap Drop.
The demo traps helped me at some points lol, 1 tech was able to kill 2-3 tanks just by setting off a demo trap which set off 2 others IDK about the lower difficulties, but "Hard" is perfect IMO, perhaps the lower difficulties could have their difficulties lowered.
use rebel ambush to capture his cc and scud storm, sell, wait for scuds. him to rebuild, do again. Gives nice cash. Hes very much beatable without building scuds. Fun fact you can even beat Alexander without making a SW (its a shitload of work and requires you to capture her particle cannon and a powerplant from her back base. took me 3 hours lmoa.
Sharp, what about those money crates and those two booby trapped derricks at the bottom?
This thread is very big now. You guys have a lot of tips. Thank you. Hopefully this thread won't be left to rot. Thank you for the tips and keep the tips flowing. Perhaps I should make this a all around forum for all generals vs Juhziz. Please move this out of here and put it in the main battle bunker forum.
NO General camo *Uses a movie like dramatic voice* dont make another STUPID THREAD!
Naw JK your fine.
They really have to fix that bug.
It is a bug since the first time the SCUDy is build, it starts with 5 minutes. Btw, I played vs Kassad yesterday and wil go on today, after I reached Juhziz and beat him, I will post a strategy of mine.
@Жao:
I didn't say it's too hard, just I see no difference between all difficulties. because whatever difficulties I choose, the time/amount of attacks are all same.
Only manged to beat him twice while playing as Alexander and Townes.
Uhhh, do you know how old this topic is? And welcome to the forums lone eagle.
Still waiting for Zhao's replay.
Juhziz is damned hard, I always play on easy, but I am able to beat him. (On easy.) The bad thing is the other generals are so easy it's not fun, like the tank general. But the moment I change to Medium and play against Granger, he carpet bombs my whole fucking base.
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