Russian helicopters (fix), Unable for traspotation of vehicle |
Russian helicopters (fix), Unable for traspotation of vehicle |
13 May 2017, 10:05
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Group: New Members Posts: 1 Joined: 2 April 2017 Member No.: 14926 |
Hi guys! Ive noticed that russian helicopters can not to take on board vehicles. There is 3 helicopters - two of them can take soldiers, but why both can do that, but any of them can not transportate vehicles.
Please, fix this somehow for balance. |
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13 May 2017, 10:37
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Certified Shitposter Group: Tester Posts: 2410 Joined: 30 December 2013 From: Straya' Member No.: 10248 pls join my games im lonely =c |
No.
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13 May 2017, 10:48
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Guardsman Group: Members Posts: 2077 Joined: 22 October 2012 From: Terra Member No.: 9379 Armageddon is here.............. |
Russian tanks being transported by helicopters......that's gonna be a really bad news.
This post has been edited by X1Destroy: 13 May 2017, 10:51 -------------------- We Die Standing.
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13 May 2017, 11:42
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Group: Tester Posts: 336 Joined: 30 June 2015 From: Game anyone? Member No.: 11665 |
QUOTE Please, fix this somehow for balance. What is the balance issue if I may ask? -------------------- Drop Commander |
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13 May 2017, 11:52
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Group: Dev. Team Posts: 616 Joined: 24 February 2015 From: Latvia Member No.: 10884 |
Looks like me duct-taping Kodiaks to Hellions wasn't intended, dam...
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13 May 2017, 12:34
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Arena maker Group: Tester Posts: 803 Joined: 24 November 2013 From: In front of da screen Member No.: 10203 |
No. Fuck off No need to be this rude... The helicopters cannot transport vehicles exactly for balance reasons. Russia is designed to be slow. -------------------- XAttus
-game anyone? The Hunter - Nobody wants to play bombtruck simulator with you |
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13 May 2017, 13:05
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Gamer Girl Group: Legend Posts: 3808 Joined: 19 June 2009 From: Disboard Member No.: 182 Friendly Freelancer |
Rik, that wasn't exactly the best possible reaction there.
Anyway, the answer is no. We have fairly strict plans and a vision on how we want this mod to work, and unless something is just not viable, we don't change these plans radically. Airtransport for Russian vehicles would be awful since they are already very powerful and, with the Industrial Plant in tow, also very price-effective, so only their fairly low speed remains as a limiting factor. Removing THAT with airtransport would entirely break the faction. Also, I have to remind you that you broke the rules with this suggestion, and have to remind you again to read them. Please do so, and have a nice day. |
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13 May 2017, 13:44
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Group: Tester Posts: 1833 Joined: 29 May 2012 Member No.: 9155 |
lol, current Russia's gunship roster is already an anomaly design-wise in that it's entirely non-generic. But even for Orlov such mobility would be total overkill and imba. Nothx.
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13 May 2017, 13:46
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The Forums American Hotshot Flyboy Group: Tester Posts: 2859 Joined: 22 November 2012 From: The foundation of modern freedom and Liberty;United States of America. Member No.: 9500 |
Hi guys! Ive noticed that russian helicopters can not to take on board vehicles. There is 3 helicopters - two of them can take soldiers, but why both can do that, but any of them can not transportate vehicles. Please, fix this somehow for balance. Remind me which faction can transport tanks across the map by default? Yes thats the gla Allright which one can do it with transports? USA? Doesnt USA need something for it....say a certain Generals power called Air mobility? Even if a Starlifter transport can only carry tanks, not Infantry. Also generally how many can it carry? Seven? Seven tanks? With what? A build limit of two? So you want russia to have a helicopter or one of the two that can transport infantry to carry tanks. Unless you want to have either helicopter with build limits...Thats not going to work Also you need to have the helicopters locked by a generals power too...or its not going to work Oh and they need to loose their capability to transport infantry, even if both helicopters that can are general exclusive I think. Basically...Russia is not ment to fly, You dont see Bears that fly you see Eagles Plus air mobility is overrated -------------------- |
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13 May 2017, 15:39
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Guardsman Group: Members Posts: 2077 Joined: 22 October 2012 From: Terra Member No.: 9379 Armageddon is here.............. |
QUOTE You dont see Bears that fly you see Eagles But Dragons and Manticores don't fly here, even though they supposed to have wings...... This post has been edited by X1Destroy: 13 May 2017, 15:39 -------------------- We Die Standing.
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13 May 2017, 16:18
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Group: Members Posts: 158 Joined: 3 November 2015 From: Near to the Heart of my Motherland Member No.: 12315 |
You dont see Bears that fly you see Eagles Also: Open joint-stock company "Khabarovsk Airport" I guess I shouldn't even mention Tu-95 here But seriously, I agree that Russia shouldn't have any measures for vehicle's aerial transportation. Their tanks are very tough, have highest damage per shot, and IMHO have quite too fast ROF, and there are two things holding them from doing a total mayhem to you: high price (which can be lowered with Industrial plant and proper sec eco) and horrible mobility. Giving Russia any means to transport tanks is like giving a kick in the pants to game balance. On a side note, is it technically possible to make helicopters transport only certain vehicles, while making it unable to carry any other (Example: making Hunchback able to carry one BMP\Hummvee\Bloodhound\Technical\Scorpion\Buggy and other light vehicles, while making it unable to carry anything "heavier", like tanks, quads etc. IMHO, it could be a unique feature for Orlov's Hunchback variant). I know it sounds like a suggestion (well, it is too obvious), but if it is possible to do, then maybe someone will make a proper unofficial addon with such thing. This post has been edited by NikCaputnic: 13 May 2017, 16:21 |
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13 May 2017, 16:43
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Group: Dev. Team Posts: 616 Joined: 24 February 2015 From: Latvia Member No.: 10884 |
You can only allow/restrict transport with KindOfs, which are extremely broad [INFANTRY, VEHICLE, AIRCRAFT, etc] and hard-coded, so we can't add any more.
This post has been edited by Hanfield: 13 May 2017, 16:46 -------------------- "don't live, hanfield"
"i swear to god, if this was a room full of you people i'd be taking off my gloves and slapping hanfield every 5 minutes" - bruce 2016 |
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13 May 2017, 16:44
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Chat Nick Group: Members Posts: 845 Joined: 12 April 2015 From: Serbia Member No.: 11096 If you ever decide to invade Russia, for the love of God, bring some warm clothes. We don't want you to blame the "evil Russian winter" when you get crushed, like everyone else who tried. |
Well, there are Vehicles and Heavy Vehicles in the code. If you put forbidden for Heavy ones, than any vehicle with that tag in the code can't be transported (Overlords and Sentinels are registered as Heavy AFAIK). But this would create a mess, because anything "heavier" than a BMP/similar tier stuff would have to be registered as a Heavy Vehicle. I tried it, when I gave a Hunchback the possibility to carry vehicles and, while being fun, it gets boring after some time, because it's super easy to win.
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13 May 2017, 18:48
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Group: Members Posts: 683 Joined: 2 April 2015 Member No.: 10992 |
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14 May 2017, 9:34
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Group: Members Posts: 312 Joined: 16 June 2015 From: Argentina - Buenos Aires - GADA 601 Base Member No.: 11600 |
Rik had a bad day, usually he is a nice guy.
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14 May 2017, 9:39
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Certified Shitposter Group: Tester Posts: 2410 Joined: 30 December 2013 From: Straya' Member No.: 10248 pls join my games im lonely =c |
You people are shithouse at reading tone lol
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14 May 2017, 16:26
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Group: Dev. Team Posts: 964 Joined: 15 August 2013 From: Portugal, Lisbon Member No.: 10072 |
You people are shithouse at reading tone lol The only reason your not getting a time off, is because you are a tester and you were given the benefit of the doubt... Any other member would have been sanctioned has it already happened. And besides, he is a newcomer... We want to welcome them and give them a good experience here on the forum. |
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14 May 2017, 16:38
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Group: Donator Posts: 204 Joined: 25 January 2016 From: Kuwait Member No.: 12539 |
Welcome to the forums !
Try gla they have a helicopter that can carry tanks ! If you read the rules it says that you can`t give suggestions based on your taste ;p , Anyway enjoy your stay and tell your friends about this awesome mod! This post has been edited by GeneralAziz: 14 May 2017, 16:41 -------------------- Not here.
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14 May 2017, 18:29
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Tactically Toxic Group: Members Posts: 248 Joined: 29 February 2016 Member No.: 12634 |
QUOTE tell your friends about this awesome mod! cough sounds like chinese propaganda cough This post has been edited by XoGamer: 14 May 2017, 18:30 |
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14 May 2017, 20:08
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Gamer Girl Group: Legend Posts: 3808 Joined: 19 June 2009 From: Disboard Member No.: 182 Friendly Freelancer |
Subliminal messaging actually
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15 May 2017, 3:47
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A Legendary Fox Group: Members Posts: 839 Joined: 14 February 2015 From: Santiago Chile Member No.: 10865 a man who play videogames, What are you waiting for me? |
Only USA and GLA have transport helicopters.
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15 May 2017, 4:10
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The Forums American Hotshot Flyboy Group: Tester Posts: 2859 Joined: 22 November 2012 From: The foundation of modern freedom and Liberty;United States of America. Member No.: 9500 |
Only USA and GLA have transport helicopters. Actually If we're considering infantry then russia has them too, but only the US can carry tanks. -------------------- |
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15 May 2017, 4:44
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Certified Shitposter Group: Tester Posts: 2410 Joined: 30 December 2013 From: Straya' Member No.: 10248 pls join my games im lonely =c |
The hook can carry vehicles too.
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15 May 2017, 5:55
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The Forums American Hotshot Flyboy Group: Tester Posts: 2859 Joined: 22 November 2012 From: The foundation of modern freedom and Liberty;United States of America. Member No.: 9500 |
The hook can carry vehicles too. Really? huh, then I stand corrected Edit: oh yeah I remember the bombtruck tricks Jie pulled off using them as suicidal beasts This post has been edited by (USA)Bruce: 15 May 2017, 5:55 -------------------- |
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15 May 2017, 7:26
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Group: Moderator Posts: 1641 Joined: 8 January 2015 From: Newcastle, England Member No.: 10811 Aut vincere aut mori, Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui, De duobus malis, minus est semper eligendum. |
technically all the factions have a transport just some cant be used by the player
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