Kodiak becomes redundant in mid-late game |
Kodiak becomes redundant in mid-late game |
8 May 2014, 11:31
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Group: Members Posts: 508 Joined: 1 March 2014 Member No.: 10323 |
Since Golem is almost twice as powerful as Kodiak so Kodiak becomes somewhat redundant in the mid-late game. So as to keep the Kodiak still viable in later part of the game, wouldn't it be pertinent to confer it with missiles that could be launched from the main gun after an upgrade, just like the T-64?
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8 May 2014, 12:33
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Group: Members Posts: 1863 Joined: 17 April 2012 Member No.: 9081 |
Isn't Kodiak best MBT in the game overall ?
Kodiak maybe gets redundant if you are playing against easy AI, since against it you can spawn dozens of Sentinels and Golems... So from that perspective it is redundant,from a perspective of common sense this whole topic is redundant. |
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8 May 2014, 17:20
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Group: Tester Posts: 1833 Joined: 29 May 2012 Member No.: 9155 |
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9 May 2014, 9:15
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Group: Members Posts: 1863 Joined: 17 April 2012 Member No.: 9081 |
One of the worst. In 1802, that is. Yes, I mean that quite literally, balance/stat/cost-efficiency wise, for a slow ground-bruteforce oriented faction. Can you give me details,as far as I have saw it is pretty much one of toughest tanks and it posses firepower that can be matched only be Leopard. |
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9 May 2014, 9:20
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Group: Tester Posts: 1833 Joined: 29 May 2012 Member No.: 9155 |
Can you give me details,as far as I have saw it is pretty much one of toughest tanks and it posses firepower that can be matched only be Leopard. Faction supply gather rate is generally similar, if you do proper supply positioning. Simpliest way - get a friend, get same amount of $$$ in Kodiaks for you and Battlemasters for him. Use focus fire, i.e. manually make all your units engage same target at once, killing enemy one by one. Same for him. Like you'd do in actual PvP game. Do tests through various tiers, without upgrades, with tier 1 upgrades, with tier 2 full upgrades. Preferably with no less than ~5000$ worth of tanks for each side. This post has been edited by Knjaz.: 9 May 2014, 9:22 |
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9 May 2014, 11:54
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Group: Members Posts: 1863 Joined: 17 April 2012 Member No.: 9081 |
Faction supply gather rate is generally similar, if you do proper supply positioning. Simpliest way - get a friend, get same amount of $$$ in Kodiaks for you and Battlemasters for him. Use focus fire, i.e. manually make all your units engage same target at once, killing enemy one by one. Same for him. Like you'd do in actual PvP game. Do tests through various tiers, without upgrades, with tier 1 upgrades, with tier 2 full upgrades. Preferably with no less than ~5000$ worth of tanks for each side. I thought one on one...According to your logic Kodiak is then worthless piece of shit. One on one only Leopard can be even with Kodiak,an that is because it will shoot first due to range of its gun. But I cannot see any other tank winning,I don't know how fully upgraded Bombardment Crusader would do tho, but I am pretty sure how Kodiak would win against most of them.Oh yeah there is also a very useful smoke launcher, which can give Kodiak one more priceless second if properly managed to shot first while enemy tanks is occupied with shooting at decoy. |
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9 May 2014, 12:49
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Army - group of people who fix diplomatic mistakes. Group: Tester Posts: 148 Joined: 18 April 2010 Member No.: 944 |
I thought one on one...According to your logic Kodiak is then worthless piece of shit. One on one only Leopard can be even with Kodiak,an that is because it will shoot first due to range of its gun. But I cannot see any other tank winning,I don't know how fully upgraded Bombardment Crusader would do tho, but I am pretty sure how Kodiak would win against most of them.Oh yeah there is also a very useful smoke launcher, which can give Kodiak one more priceless second if properly managed to shot first while enemy tanks is occupied with shooting at decoy. And then what is the cost of the single Kodiak and single Battlemaster? If we're comparing these tanks from 1.802 version, so 5 BMs will beat the crap out of 3 Kodiaks. And the situation is getting worse with tier progression, Mass Production and ERA don't change overall situation. And by the way, Crusaders and much more cost effective than Paladins in 1.802. -------------------- |
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9 May 2014, 12:56
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Group: Members Posts: 1863 Joined: 17 April 2012 Member No.: 9081 |
And then what is the cost of the single Kodiak and single Battlemaster? If we're comparing these tanks from 1.802 version, so 5 BMs will beat the crap out of 3 Kodiaks. And the situation is getting worse with tier progression, Mass Production and ERA don't change overall situation. And by the way, Crusaders and much more cost effective than Paladins in 1.802. One on one... |
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9 May 2014, 13:15
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Army - group of people who fix diplomatic mistakes. Group: Tester Posts: 148 Joined: 18 April 2010 Member No.: 944 |
1300 credits tank against 700 credits tanks?
Oh, and by the way, when they both fully upgraded and BM gets propaganda from somewhere, it annihilates Kodiak. Just ONE BM. Cost effective? -------------------- |
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10 May 2014, 13:18
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Comrade Bear Group: Dev. Team Posts: 954 Joined: 3 February 2013 Member No.: 9722 Projects: Deep Impact |
1300 credits tank against 700 credits tanks? Oh, and by the way, when they both fully upgraded and BM gets propaganda from somewhere, it annihilates Kodiak. Just ONE BM. Cost effective? Using your logic, I could say that 1 Kodiak can get support from a RPG trooper or 2, and it annihilates Battlemaster. Just ONE Kodiak. But, yeah, Kodiak is not cost effective at all in 1.802. I find myself lacking funds after Kodiak production kicks in, for a tank that is very easily outnumbered. Only mass production stops that and all of those other relevant upgrades. This post has been edited by Karpet: 10 May 2014, 13:20 -------------------- Your feeling of helplessness is your best friend, savage.
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10 May 2014, 15:55
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Group: Members Posts: 541 Joined: 23 January 2014 Member No.: 10272 |
Using your logic, I could say that 1 Kodiak can get support from a RPG trooper or 2, and it annihilates Battlemaster. Just ONE Kodiak. But, yeah, Kodiak is not cost effective at all in 1.802. I find myself lacking funds after Kodiak production kicks in, for a tank that is very easily outnumbered. Only mass production stops that and all of those other relevant upgrades. don't think kodiak need a RPG to overpower a battlemaster though. but how much is a battlemaster+ a speaker tower? well it's worth a kodiak + a conscript as in 1.802, assume he doesn't get run over, BM+speaker tower still sounds better to me though. |
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