Snipers/Designated Marksmen, Plus some other tips for the story I'm working on for some time, i Options

[3rdShockArmy]

I'm curious. Which weapons are used by in-game snipers/designated marksmen?

I'd guess that Jarmen Kell is using the SVD (Dragunov).

Not sure about the Partisans, but IIRC, old 19th-century bolt-action rifles like Mosin-Nagant, Kar-98 or Lee – Enfield are their weapons of choice (or that's just the best they could afford).

IIRC Heavy Snipers are using AW50s.

But the Pathfinders are bugging me a bit.
I've found a wikia page which says they're using the Heckler & Koch MSG90, but that sounds wrong to me, cause MSG90 is a semi-automatic and by the way they shoot, it's more likely they're using a bolt-action rifle.
Is there an official lore about them anywhere?

EDIT: I've made the tread, because I'm working on a new part of Air war in Europe and I need this information. Is there anyone who can provide me a cannon-worthy answer?

This post has been edited by 3rdShockArmy: 4 Feb 2016, 7:31

[Scud]

I'm curious. Which weapons are used by in-game snipers/designated marksmen?

I'd guess that Jarmen Kell is using the SVD (Dragunov).

Not sure about the Partisans, but IIRC, old 19th-century bolt-action rifles like Mosin-Nagant, Kar-98 or Lee – Enfield are their weapons of choice (or that's just the best they could afford).

IIRC Heavy Snipers are using AW50s.

But the Pathfinders are bugging me a bit.
I've found a wikia page which says they're using the Heckler & Koch MSG90, but that sounds wrong to me, cause MSG90 is a semi-automatic and by the way they shoot, it's more likely they're using a bolt-action rifle.
Is there an official lore about them anywhere?

EDIT: I've made the tread, because I'm working on a new part of Air war in Europe and I need this information. Is there anyone who can provide me a cannon-worthy answer?

I think US Snipers use the M24 bolt action rifle.

[3rdShockArmy]

Thanks, Scud, ma man!
Now I can continue with my story.

[MARS]

Jarmen does indeed use an SVD, which was explained by him having lost part of his hand in an IED accident which is why he can no longer use the heavy KSVK that also allowed him to snipe vehicles in the original game. Partisans do indeed use old bolt-action Mosin-Nagants, Lee-Enfields and Kar98 which still appear in the hands of insurgent groups to this day and also tie in with the idea of these being 'ancestral' weapons passed down the line within that particular Partisan's family as inspired by the Afghans. For Pathfinders, it is sort of ambiguous since it is (intentionally) left open what branch they belong to so that you can imagine the one you find more fitting/interesting. If they're Army, it could indeed be the M24 whereas Marine Scout Snipers could be using some version of the M40, both of which are bolt-actions that would produce that trademark sound you hear when they fire. Jaeger's rifle by the way was based on the CheyTac Intervention (the Wiki incorrectly identifies it as a TAC50), an American rifle that is however being used by the Polish special forces which was brought up by Vidar himself way back in the day when he created the basic backstory of his character.

[3rdShockArmy]

Thank you very much for the elaborate answer, Mars. I would sure use your guidelines, at least for some parts of my story. I know you're busy with RL commitments, but would you or Svea (whoever's in charge of the lore) agree if I used Heros (Jaeger, Boris) and ECA Commandos in my story, without losing cannonicity?
Also, would involving Aleksandr and other Generals to a degree (I wouldn't try to affect the lore in the slightest) be too much?

Um... I'm not sure I remember who Vidar is.

[Damfoos]

Vidar is the guy who posed as Frank Jaeger, it is his face on the cameo.

I wonder how Jarmen was able to shoot people so fast with this... it's a freaking tank gun

This post has been edited by Damfoos: 4 Feb 2016, 9:03

[MARS]

Thank you very much for the elaborate answer, Mars. I would sure use your guidelines, at least for some parts of my story. I know you're busy with RL commitments, but would you or Svea (whoever's in charge of the lore) agree if I used Heros (Jaeger, Boris) and ECA Commandos in my story, without losing cannonicity?
Also, would involving Aleksandr and other Generals to a degree (I wouldn't try to affect the lore in the slightest) be too much?

You are free to write any story you want with any characters you want, it is not necessary to ask permission. All it means is that, if you want it to be compatible with canon, there is more things to keep in mind, i.e. what is already established and what would be plausibly 'in-character'.

[3rdShockArmy]

@Damfoos
Didn't know about that. Cool.
Yeah, that thing fires fricken shells.
For some reason, that picture is gone now.
EDIT: It's there, again.
@Mars
Ok. I know enough about the lore, so I think I could do something cannon-worthy.
Thanks again, guys.

This post has been edited by 3rdShockArmy: 4 Feb 2016, 9:01

[The_Hunter]

Altho lore might state it differently for some of them (such as the partisan having other types of bolt action rifles) these are the rifles the models are based on.

Jarmen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragunov_sniper_rifle

Partisan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee%E2%80%93Enfield

Pathfinder: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AWC_G2

Heavy Sniper: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accuracy_International_AW50

Frank Jaeger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CheyTac_Intervention

[Cobretti]

Pathfinders would likely be using either a M110 rifle, or a M40A5 (if USMC) or M2010 variant (if Army).

Lee-Enfield SMLE's a good choice for the Partisan as there are thousands of those things floating around Afghanistan and Pakistan, and variants were even made in India up until the 1970s. Both it and the M91/30 are used today along with the SVD in Afghanistan as sniper rifles.

[3rdShockArmy]

@Hunter
So, it would be ok to use the in-game models, without messing up with the lore?
Thank you for the links. Can't be clearer than that.
@Krieger
Yeah. So as Mars pointed out, I could use different weapons in my story.

What more can a humble member such as myself ask for. I hope you'll like some of the new parts of the story. This wasn't such a big deal, but still I wanted to be sure.

[Nemanja]

Thread related,what would be Chinese standard issue Marksmen/Sniper rifle lore wise ?

[Cobretti]

I'd assume the Chinese would use the CS/LR4 rifle for longer range work and the QBU-88 for designated marksman shooting.

[Nemanja]

No no,I asked what Chinese use in ROTR setting,not in real life.

[3rdShockArmy]

Well, I guess there isn't much point in making a lore about something completely absent from game.
But if we're gonna do it, considering Chinas' fifties meta, than I suppose even some Chinese Dragunov copy-cat is too modern. I'd put my bet on some kind of a scoped Red Guards rifle (whichever rifle that is in lore).

[The_Hunter]

Why not a grenade sniper rifle ?

[Cobretti]

No no,I asked what Chinese use in ROTR setting,not in real life.

I don't really see why it'd be that different.

[Nemanja]

Because Chinese units don't use QBZ-95-1 nor QBZ-03 in game like they do irl (as a matter of fact they dont use anything like they do irl),so it will prolly go same with sniper rifles.

[{Lads}RikerZZZ]

Well remember that they Chinese Military still uses their real life high hi-tech stuff too. They just don't let the red army use them, and we get to control the red army.

[Cobretti]

The Red Guard are a militia/security force that was called up during the war with the GLA and is still used as a reservist and counter-insurgency force. They are armed with surplus weaponry while the People's Liberation Army has all the modern, high-tech gear.

[Die Hindenburg]

Why not a grenade sniper rifle ?

Almost nobody expects Secret Police Jin...

This post has been edited by Die Hindenburg: 6 Feb 2016, 2:17

[3rdShockArmy]

Damn. How da hell do you shoot with that thing!?
Loosing your hearing is the least of your problems.
Someone should make an add-on.
With them being stealthed (yeah, I know, entirely not OP).

[Kicknut00]

Why not a grenade sniper rifle ?

It beautiful

[Nemanja]

The Red Guard are a militia/security force that was called up during the war with the GLA and is still used as a reservist and counter-insurgency force. They are armed with surplus weaponry while the People's Liberation Army has all the modern, high-tech gear.

And that was my question,what Sniper and Marksmen rifles Chinese forces use in ROTR setting.
PLA is pretty much irrelevant ROTR wise,since we will only get to play with Red Army/Guards and Secret Police.

[Die Hindenburg]

Does Mau not represent the PLA side?