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Spetsnaz, Orlov's Unique Russian Infantry
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post 11 Jul 2018, 13:28
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I've barely heard of them for a few years by now. Must be scrapped content by now, who knows? They're probably what I'm mostly looking forward to in the future
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post 11 Jul 2018, 14:20
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They are not scrapped.


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post 11 Jul 2018, 17:08
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They replace conscripts and will benefit from the medkit and Infantry munitions upgrade


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post 11 Jul 2018, 22:53
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Any info on how powerful Spetnaz is in comparsion to other basic infantry or should we wait to find out?
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post 11 Jul 2018, 23:43
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QUOTE (0weber0 @ 11 Jul 2018, 23:53) *
Any info on how powerful Spetnaz is in comparsion to other basic infantry or should we wait to find out?

No info on that yet. Wait and see.


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post 12 Jul 2018, 0:31
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They are stronger than Conscripts. I8.gif


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post 12 Jul 2018, 5:07
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So far we can assume they will be better than conscripts and worse than vdv. So something around ranger level would be my guess.


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post 12 Jul 2018, 7:43
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Plus, they can take on a lot more vodka and still shot straight.


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post 12 Jul 2018, 8:44
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QUOTE (0weber0 @ 11 Jul 2018, 23:53) *
Any info on how powerful Spetnaz is in comparsion to other basic infantry or should we wait to find out?


All Orlov's conscript variants are replaced with spetsnaz ones ( so that means conscripts and rpg conscripts).

The idea is like this :

Spetsnaz vs Green Berets and specOps , the former is more heavy stats focused while the latter is utility focused.


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post 12 Jul 2018, 11:15
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So there will be even a Igla Spetsnaz?
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post 12 Jul 2018, 13:14
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QUOTE (re_simeone @ 12 Jul 2018, 12:15) *
So there will be even a Igla Spetsnaz?

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post 12 Jul 2018, 13:33
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QUOTE (Mizo @ 12 Jul 2018, 11:44) *
All Orlov's conscript variants are replaced with spetsnaz ones ( so that means conscripts and rpg conscripts).

The idea is like this :

Spetsnaz vs Green Berets and specOps , the former is more heavy stats focused while the latter is utility focused.


Ayy nice, so basically in a 1 v 1 fight with each other, the Spets would mostly win every fight, but outside of that, they have little to utilities and such and have very little use outside of their respective roles and just be basically beefed and juiced up infantry. I'd be down with that 👏
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post 13 Jul 2018, 1:52
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QUOTE (Maelstrom @ 12 Jul 2018, 10:14) *
No

Now that you mention them, are IGLA's also conscripts? They don't have 'conscript' written in their name, but the are cheaper than the RPG variant, which makes me think they take less resources/training and i don't think you can go further down on cost or training time than conscription.
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post 13 Jul 2018, 4:35
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QUOTE (Juggernaughty @ 12 Jul 2018, 14:33) *
Ayy nice, so basically in a 1 v 1 fight with each other, the Spets would mostly win every fight, but outside of that, they have little to utilities and such and have very little use outside of their respective roles and just be basically beefed and juiced up infantry. I'd be down with that 👏


Basically. Green berets can clear garrisons, capture infantry capture and just do damage, where as spetsnaz will just shoot and capture.


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post 13 Jul 2018, 16:09
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I only hope they will not be VDV with slightly different models, and different voice overs, like GLAs Rebel Ambush (idk how it is called now) spawning different looking Rebels and TDs, but they are still pretty much like buildable versions.
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post 13 Jul 2018, 16:28
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QUOTE ({Lads}RikerZZZ @ 13 Jul 2018, 6:35) *
Basically. Green berets can clear garrisons, capture infantry capture and just do damage, where as spetsnaz will just shoot and capture.

Theres also a few extra things the GB will be able to do but thats not publicly known, or atleast not all of them....


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post 13 Jul 2018, 19:06
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Guys sorry for off topic about Spetsnaz. Whats difference between ranger and Green Beret?


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post 13 Jul 2018, 20:12
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If I remembered it right, Green Beret used to have a stealthy knife attack like Burton since it have voice lines referenced to it. Probably got changed due to having more than 3 weapons is not possible, but it may comeback in some other ways.

From the old times, the ancient spetsnaz icons include a generic rifleman, an RPG unit, a sniper with a VSS rifle, and someone with demolition symbol. Unless things have gone completely reboot since then, I believe the RPG troopers can attack both ground and air, thus remove the need for a Spetsnaz Igla. It fits, because Orlov is rapid develoment. The more versatile his troops are the better.

The conscripts replacements probably won't have any thing special, but the advance ones like the sniper or demoman might have limited stealth. It might even be better that troops won't have anything good by default, but through a special powers or upgrades that they gain nasty boosts and can maybe have camo like GLA infantry but only when standing still and not doing anything.

Damn, haven't check things for ages and look like I missed 4 1.87 beta versions. Seems like lots of things were changed since then. The Grizon calling is certainly what I think Orlov would have for 2.0, but to think it's there already.


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post 13 Jul 2018, 21:30
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QUOTE (Emin96 @ 13 Jul 2018, 21:06) *
Guys sorry for off topic about Spetsnaz. Whats difference between ranger and Green Beret?

Green Beret has better stats, a cooler voice actor and It can clear garrisons.
The future will add more


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