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Posted by: Overdose 4 Jul 2009, 7:23

We hope you enjoyed the story. This will be a series you can look forward to every two updates from now on. This short novel should answer some of your questions about the African War.

We also have some renders for you. How about we have a look?

American Cobra

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4553/americancobra.jpg

The Cobra is the most agile helicopter in service. Excellent for scouting, ambushing and harassment, these birds of prey are capable of being a serious threat in high enough numbers. Though they already have a powerful mini gun by default they can be upgraded with rocket pods making them even more deadly. The Cobra is exclusive to General Griffon replacing the Littlebird.

Chinese Battlemaster

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The Battle Master tank has served the People’s Republic of China for over 30 years now and its presence in the battlefield is almost symbolic. This newest variant in use by the People's Liberation Army of this aging tank already comes with reactive armor and now benefits from improved nuclear upgrades.

Chinese Gatling Tank

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9733/chinagattlingtank.jpg

The Gatling Tank has changed inside as much it has changed outside. Firing now is also completely automated, no longer requiring a gunner for the Gatling Tank to operate. Despite over 95% of the parts have been modernized, it still uses the same tried and true ammunition. The Gatling Tank of the new age has yet to see actual combat.

This concludes our update. A notice to the fans: The Video Feed will be recorded this weekend so you can look forward to it next week. If you have questions about the lore of Rise of Reds don't be shy to ask. Your very questions may become focal points of stories and updates in the future. We hope you enjoyed our update. We also have a special message to our American fans and team members: Happy 4th of July! This is the SWR Team signing off.

Posted by: MR.Kim 4 Jul 2009, 7:37

Awesome new update.

By the way, The Cobra will be release1.5 or after 2.0?

Posted by: Overdose 4 Jul 2009, 7:40

Wait and see.

Posted by: Anubis 4 Jul 2009, 8:09

Heh ... i was right about the cobra. To bad it will only replace the LB only for Griffon. Cool stuff btw . But the BM and gattling don't have much to offer. The bm, except for that ERA addition, looks the same. It might have been simbolic in ZH, but the chinese have already developed some really bad ass mbt's, that make the bm look like a gla scorpion. And the MG on top of the turret - well that looks really bad, especially the skin. The gatt tank only has a new weapon design ( wich is cool btw ), but the rest is once again the same. Sorry, but i was really expecting a bit more than 2 armor plates and a redesigned gattling cannon.
Anubis out.

Posted by: KamuiK 4 Jul 2009, 8:30

As he said.

Posted by: Admiral FCS 4 Jul 2009, 8:42

Well, my internet came online just at the right time.

All of those looks awesome, though I'm having difficulties reading the handwritings on the diary.

EDIT: On second thought, the BM could use some more modernization, but the Gat Tank looks real nice.

Posted by: Pal 4 Jul 2009, 8:59

yea!!,more updates!

Posted by: CommanderJB 4 Jul 2009, 9:37

The presentation values for the lore are just astonishing, as is the writing itself. Hats off to Comrade and OD for one of the best updates this mod has yet seen.
As for the units itself, you'll certainly soon come to love the Cobra if you're playing USA - and hate these little devils if you're playing against them! And I would stress that with regards to the Gatling Tank and Battlemaster that Rise of the Reds is an enhancement modification, not a conversion. To redesign them would be to remove key aspects of Zero Hour, which is emphatically not what Rise of the Reds is about. You know they're the same units as before and given that to heavily modify or replace the units and then leave their stats unchanged in-game would be daft and misleading, the extra visual refinements for eye candy should be all that you really need.

Posted by: Comr4de 4 Jul 2009, 9:58

I can only agree with the above post, we've kept the iconic units and updated the models for certain units. A total revamp isn't exactly needed as this is not a total conversion mod.


Also in regards of the Cobra you can expect it for 1.5

Posted by: NergiZed 4 Jul 2009, 10:15

I hope that this means that we get a GLA update soon, explaining why Russia took such a beating from the good ol' GLA.

Posted by: Destiny 4 Jul 2009, 11:31

Damn, the story was very, very entertaining. That part where the Conscripts get sniped off was kinda nostalgic...also, nice Cobra

Posted by: Jester 4 Jul 2009, 11:59

The diary is sweet i also like the mi 26 landing with all the other choppers guarding it thats a great picture did you have to photoshop it or you just come across it?
Anyway i cant wait to use the cobra!!!! you can start running to the hills when ever you like now >:)

Posted by: Comr4de 4 Jul 2009, 12:07

Nostalgic, what kind of things have you seen before : o?

Posted by: Dutchygamer 4 Jul 2009, 12:22

Damn good story guys

Posted by: Destiny 4 Jul 2009, 12:28

Like getting shut out of a safe/room intentionally just as a horde's about to come, getting your convoy ambushed and trying to compress everyone together, trying to huddle behind friendly tanks from that camping sniper on the ridge, microing your pilot from the other side of the map back to your base alive etc.

I hope more stories will be to come.

Posted by: ka1000 4 Jul 2009, 14:20

hunter, why don't you force two-sided in your renders? it makes certain areas look a bit odd, specifically the underside of the battlemasters turret and certain details that are single-faced like the small cylinder wrapped around the barrel.

apart from that, i really like the Gatling tank's new design.

the chopper's cockpit however seems a bit boxy though that's really just a minor ting.

lastly, brilliant job on the story sheets. this is what distinguishes you from most other mods: a solid story plus enough visual effort to make it reality.

Posted by: Anubis 4 Jul 2009, 14:22

Iconic ? What makes the BM iconic, and the crusader not iconic. Anyway, even if you kept the overall design, things like that mg on top of the BM really need a new design. A improved design wouldn't kill the iconicness of the BM ( look at the raptor for ex ). I'm just pointing out, that bouth the gatt and the BM have recived verry verry little visual improvements, and imo there was room for a little more. But hey ... it's not my mod, so take it just as an outside opinion.

Posted by: Pickysaurus 4 Jul 2009, 14:40

I think all the renders are good
And the diary is awesome!
This could be a per-mission cut scene in the ROTR Campaign

One thing I would say about the Cobra, it looks like a Comanche that's been squashed in at the sides. Meaning it's very thin, especially below the cockpit area.

Posted by: Darkfire Angel 4 Jul 2009, 14:53

Great story, very atmospheric. And great layout.
I'm also interested in seeing the Cobra in action.are those AA rockets on the winglets?

Posted by: Comr4de 4 Jul 2009, 15:01

Indeed they are. Main reason we decided to use the Cobra was mainly due to it's long standing career in the military and at the same time give more variety to the US arsenal with the capability of being one of the few Helicopters that can shoot at other air units effectively.

Posted by: Kirasama 4 Jul 2009, 15:06

I like all the new models, even when they are just little touch ups of the models(actually the front of the chassis of the Battlemaster looks different to the normal one) but the cobra is just awesome

IIRC the battlemaster look a lot better with the nuclear upgrades in the last screenshots the team posted, so if your guys think its kinda not very different is because that is the basic version(but i think the machinegun could have been upgrade a little or changed for something more eyecandy)

btw the red star on the front of the gattling tank is inverted, isnt it?

Posted by: Pav3d 4 Jul 2009, 15:32

The Cobra looks great and easily my fave unit from this update.

The BM is a bit of a let down tho, You guys couldave at least fixed up the mg on the bm, since the ECA mg's look 100 times better, same with the 4 sided barrel, couldave easily be remade to be more detailed. Also that horrible stretching on the front of the turret could be fixed too, it really shows up infront of the more detailed reactive armour.

The gattling cannon is also a let down too, I was just expecting more of a SHW tank gen type bad ass looking gatt tank.

The lore is great and a I can see a massive amount of work has been put into it. Its a shame that the files are so damn big

Oh yeah its upside down

Posted by: katmoda12 4 Jul 2009, 15:41

You are doing a great work. for me now your mod is like a kind of drug.I want more and more.

Since i think you are creating a bit of a hype and because of my addiction i can understad the feeling of Anubis, i don't agree with him by the way.

Just that: from an update of yours someone expect awesome things like the topol. The real thing to watch closely today is the awesome cobra (i have a few question about it that i'll post in the right place to avoid redundancy) and Overdose's (i think it's his) new series (really good, at the level of official production,actually better than some EA lore content).

After all this if you look to the battlemaster that is a unit already seen and the china-obvious gattling tank is kind of delusion, not because of the units per se but just for the feelings,unrationally.
Rationally speaking they are just great, I like in particular the way you are updating the old units to a new, more futuristic standard (I like in particular the in game adoption by the whole chinese army of the upgraded battlemaster from kwai with the engine of Tao).

All this makes someone feels that you are doing all this for the sake of your passion. Zero Hour, the way it comes out back then was a mercenary's work (like "kane's wrath";I mean.. what..15 new copyied or little modified units with no new gameplay?or worst the last "Uprising"), yours is not and you don't have any external support,keep up guys, i'm fully supporting you.

P:S:And EA in his site continue to glorify himself for community http://www.commandandconquer.com/portal/site/generals/article/detail?contentId=0e30600c21232210VgnVCM100000100d2c0aRCRD.

Posted by: Overdose 4 Jul 2009, 15:58

The lore was done by me while the artwork was done by our talented Comr4de. We also appreciate your compliments. Rest assured that we haven't even scraped off the awesome that there is still to come.

Posted by: WARthog 4 Jul 2009, 16:14

Very nice story you wrote there.

The Cobra looks just awesome and the new gattling tank is a great eyecandy as well.

Posted by: Jester 4 Jul 2009, 16:29

Remember that the cobra is not made by SWR its made by the Middle east crisis team . anyway i like all 3 renders although id rather you guys use the war master tank instead of the BM but hay its your mod ignore my critizism lol.

Posted by: Pav3d 4 Jul 2009, 16:41

Warmaster is based on the russian t-80 iirc, it would be too similar to the kodiak

Posted by: Jester 4 Jul 2009, 16:42

ahhh too bad

Posted by: Pickysaurus 4 Jul 2009, 17:17

The diarys, they mention GLA Snipers... would that mean GLA get sniper units? (Always though they should have them, non-stealthed snipers)
Or is it just Jarmen Kell owning them up?

Posted by: The_Hunter 4 Jul 2009, 18:06

A chinese T80 however which is very diffferent from the Russian Made T80 which is what the Kodiak is based of

Posted by: Mcbob 4 Jul 2009, 19:06

I see the Cobra has Sidewinders in place of TOWs or Hellfires. I'm speculating that the Comanche will still be the anti-tank platform of Griffon?

Posted by: Pickysaurus 4 Jul 2009, 19:08

Comanche... anti-tank, beserious!

Posted by: Pink_Supervisor 4 Jul 2009, 19:48

The Warmaster is a T-90 isn't it.

Posted by: Edsato82 4 Jul 2009, 20:31

should improve the cannon battlemaster, nice render

Posted by: Pickysaurus 4 Jul 2009, 20:50

I think the Battlemaster is fine. It's only really a spam unit anyways. Add too much detail and it'll cause lag

Posted by: The_Hunter 4 Jul 2009, 21:00

To be entirely exact the Warmaster from ShockWave is a Soviet made T-64 with design features from the T-90 and alittle improvisations of my own.

When i said chinese T80 i confused myself with the Ravage and Warmaster the Ravage beeing based on the RL chinese T80 again with some design features of my own.

Anyway that beeing said back on topic please as this is about the media update

Posted by: Mcbob 4 Jul 2009, 21:28

Heli-wise I mean, heh.

Posted by: Balizk 4 Jul 2009, 21:39

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Posted by: Suvorov 4 Jul 2009, 23:05

I believe the correct smiley would be
Seriously though, the models look great! I especially appreciate that you incorporated the new gattling cannon design into the gattling tank.

Posted by: Raven 4 Jul 2009, 23:35

Awesome update guys...brilliant...The diary is just sooo coool. Very professional update as usual . Two thumbs up

Posted by: Shock 5 Jul 2009, 1:23

The diary reminds me of Call of Duty 2's loading screen, if I am not the first to point this out.

All the blood is a bit overdone though imo.

Posted by: Overdose 5 Jul 2009, 1:36

Really? I never played Call of Duty before with exception of the 4th one.

Posted by: DerKrieger 5 Jul 2009, 4:41

Yeah, it does look CoD2-esque. Really nice work on the writing, Overdose...the new models are pretty cool too.

Posted by: Shock 5 Jul 2009, 11:43

Well yeah in front of every mission you'd be reading in a journal made by the character you are playing, in between an atmosphere of all kinds of war equipment, similar to what you did.

That's also why I don't like all the blood splatters, it seems to make it all less credible when even the soldiers' journal, something that is usually used when there is not something to fight, is covered in red.

Posted by: Rayburn 5 Jul 2009, 12:42

Maybe the bloke who wrote this had some nasty nosebleed?

Posted by: BlitzGeneral 5 Jul 2009, 14:02

There IS a picture of his girlfriend attached. >3

Will we be seeing more new real-world units in the existing factions arsenals?

Posted by: Beef 5 Jul 2009, 16:58

Isn't that the Far Cry 2 diary?

I must admit this stuff in the update is not unfamiliar to me. Still I REALLY loved the lore you had at the start. Really adds a new layer of involvement in the story. I also want too see some GLA soon.

Posted by: partyzanPaulZy 5 Jul 2009, 20:39

Nice story, I like this style.

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9733/chinagattlingtank.jpg

Satan's Glory Among Us

Posted by: Overdose 5 Jul 2009, 21:06

Hehehe... I was wondering if anyone would notice that.

Posted by: KamuiK 6 Jul 2009, 0:04

Uhm, what are you guys talking about?

Posted by: Overdose 6 Jul 2009, 0:08

You probably have watched anime that has black magic. Haven't you found the star on the Gat Tank a little too familiar?

Posted by: KamuiK 6 Jul 2009, 0:57

Zero no Tsukaima much?^^ Actually, for me it is the same chinese red (ShW) star as on all other chinese vehicles too but you may enlighten me what is special about it. The sole thing it stands on 1 edge instead of 2 makes no real difference for me. If it would really look like a pentagram, I would agree with you.

Posted by: DerKrieger 6 Jul 2009, 4:35

I just noticed a small error with the Cobra model (when looking up info on the Viper recently)- it has only two rotor blades when the new versions actually have a four bladed rotor.

Posted by: Overdose 6 Jul 2009, 5:03

An upside down star is basically an upside down pentacle. The difference between an upright and an upside down pentacle is that the upright is related to general witchcraft, sorcery and the 5 elements while the upside down star is of demonic nature.



Just to explain the reference to everyone. If you wish to discuss this further let's do it somewhere else.

Posted by: KamuiK 6 Jul 2009, 10:27

Well, I STILL see not the point of it but I will not examine this in here. I do have to admit, I learned something again. But is the 5th element not commonly 'Void'? Unlike my Angel Quest where there is no Void at all but 6 additional elements making up 10 in total with complete VS-list and all^^
And for the sake to make this post on-topic:
Is that Battlemaster's barrel not a tad short or is it only the perspective?

Posted by: The_Hunter 6 Jul 2009, 11:11

entirely perspective it was not altered in anyway most of us like the battlemaster to much for drastic changes