The 'Call of Duty' Thread, Can be used to discuss various games as the series goes on Options

[Svea Rike]

For the record, I wasn't actually describing a WW2 game, but an MW3-style world war three scenario -executed- more like the original WW2 CoDs

One of the few things I genuinely liked about BO2's multiplayer was that it had scorestreaks instead of killstreaks - such point requirements are easier to balance/nuance than a system that runs solely on kills - and the 'pick 10' class system (imbalances notwithstanding).

What I would like to see in another CoD game is steampunk or dieselpunk. You know, those classic 1950's style rifles and rocket launchers mixed with strange science-fiction. At least then they'd make something new. On top of that it could have real gore, not just limbs getting torn off, more like if you shoot a dude with a shotgun in the stomach it'd punch a hole through it.

What I liked about BO2 (on the Wii U) is that there are no assholes quickscoping with sniper rifles, but camping with them just like a real sniper, there are no 9 year old mic-ragers and above all else, I really like those guns. The campaign was IMO better than MW3 because that was focused on a manhunt for a terrorist trying to start a revolution rather than a 5-week World War 3. Maybe the guns could need a bit of nerfing to do but aside from that, it is generally more fun to play than the Modern Warfare games.

[XCABAL]

I'm sick off all the modern FPS bullshit that game companies are dishing out. DICE needs to get Battlefield 2143 made and released, then I'll be happy.

[Karpet]

If an amazing game was going to be made, with a good story, good campaign, good multiplayer, MARS needs to be the story writer...

To be honest, SP sucks now. Like 6 hour campaign, WTF?

Gimme dat fun replayable long campaign with zero bullshit! Fucking EA and Activision, such cocksuckers. They make BF3 campaign into some scripted bullshit.

EA and Activision need to FUCK OFF and make their own shit games instead of rushing the good ones.

I want a good FPS... So bad.

I won't be surprised if CoD : Ghosts is shitty.

[Alias]

EA and Activision need to FUCK OFF and make their own shit games instead of rushing the good ones.

They are making their own games.

There actually has been plenty of good FPS in the last 12-18 months or so, this has been the best period for it in quite a long time.

[Svea Rike]

They are making their own games.

There actually has been plenty of good FPS in the last 12-18 months or so, this has been the best period for it in quite a long time.

Agreed, Halo 4 was damn good.

[Alias]

Agreed, Halo 4 was damn good.

More along the lines of the aforementioned Spec Ops: the Line, Dishonoured, Bioshock Infinite, etc.

[Pepo]

The only campain i really like was cod mw.after that all of then were really bad.the one of mw3 was a really bad one.

[GDIZOCOM]

And Killstreaks ... Really? You honestly prefer the flawed MW3 system (where everyone going Specialist crapped on their teammates) or MW2 system (Camp 5 kills, get Predator -> Harrier -> AC130) or <insert any other CoD> over a System where you get points for objectives, assists, drones, etc. and most of the players run UAV and VSAT to actually support their teammates?

Black Ops 2 Perk system, is badly balanced though. Flak Jacket, Toughness, Tac-Mask are way too important, and the overall high number of bullets to kill makes scavanger a must for a lot of weapons. In addition EMP-Grenades are annoying as f*ck.
But if BO2 did something really good, it's Killstreaks and Weapon balance.

The horrendous thing about MW2 was the fact the people camp for chopper gunners that could EASILY get you a tac nuke which kinda destroyed the balance. And let's not forget the One-Man-Army-Danger-Close-Grenade-Launcher combo that lets you camp in your spawn while you rack up kills.

There are perks in Black Ops 2 that are REALLY underrated. The Hard-Wired, Engineer, Awareness, Dead Silence, and Blind Eye. They need to adjust the abilities of the perks. EMP Grenades render all scorestreaks on the ground useless where the moment you deploy a sentry gun or microwave turret you're GUARANTEED to lose it to some random player who threw it FAR away from where it is (EMP Grenades also go through walls and floors ) which is why I go with any scorestreak that flies I noticed in Black Ops 2 no one tries to shoot down scorestreaks unless it's an 18-player lobby.

[TheCeLL]

Whenever I think of Call of Duty Ghosts, i always think of those spec ops people in Starcraft that can call down nukes with a laser pointer.

[Stalker]

The horrendous thing about MW2 was the fact the people camp for chopper gunners that could EASILY get you a tac nuke which kinda destroyed the balance. And let's not forget the One-Man-Army-Danger-Close-Grenade-Launcher combo that lets you camp in your spawn while you rack up kills.

There are perks in Black Ops 2 that are REALLY underrated. The Hard-Wired, Engineer, Awareness, Dead Silence, and Blind Eye. They need to adjust the abilities of the perks. EMP Grenades render all scorestreaks on the ground useless where the moment you deploy a sentry gun or microwave turret you're GUARANTEED to lose it to some random player who threw it FAR away from where it is (EMP Grenades also go through walls and floors ) which is why I go with any scorestreak that flies I noticed in Black Ops 2 no one tries to shoot down scorestreaks unless it's an 18-player lobby.

Yeah, MW2 was camping all the time. Sure there are score-streak camper in BO2 as well, but they need more than 7 kills before they can get a Nuke

In BO2 I go with Flak Jacket, Toughness, Tac-Mask and at least 1 EMP grenade on ALL of my classes. There are so many explosives, flashbangs that you can't really play without those perks. Damage view kick is so annoying that Toughness is a must for anything but shotguns and SMGs. But since more and more people use EMP nades, Hard-Wired would be nice to have as well.
And yes, for some reason >90% of all players don't realise that you can shoot down scorestreaks. I don't run around with a stinger (Launchers are crap in this Pick-10 system), but I just change to my AA class as soon as I die (which is inevitable when there is a chopper in the air). With an LMG with FMJ you can shoot down a Stealth Chopper in a few seconds, and you can easily kill a VTOL as well, yet I always seem to be the only one that does it.
This brings up another issue: Never play this game without at least 2 other people. Random teammates suck, somehow more than ever. And the chances are high that you join an open (and most likely lost) game.

[MARS]

I can attest to some of that. Throughout the 38 hours I played BO2's MP, it always seemed as if I was the only one who could be arsed to do anything about those scorestreaks. Whenever there was a drone or helicopter in the air, I instantly grabbed the standard launcher (which I had on most of my classes) and took it out. The fact that this yields you a good bunch of points for your own streak is a legitimately good design decision in my book but overall, I simply got way too frustrated at BO2 due to the awful map design and overabundance of cheap weapons at the time. And then there's the undoubtable fact that the CoD community simply is one of, if not the single most wretched bunch there is in the gaming landscape. I couldn't play for five minutes without somebody calling somebody else a 'fag' or some random git yelling or burping into his badly calibrated microphone. And then there's those pricks who use the emblem editor to draw swastikas or whatever they think genitalia look like. Sadly, CoD MP is now the epitome of a caustic, hateful and overall pathetic gaming community at its worst and I felt dirty whenever I spent some lengthy amount of time amidst this bunch. Mind you, I am talking about the PC version. I do not even want to imagine how much worse the XBox community is.

[GDIZOCOM]

Well I also play on PC, drop me your steam if you'd like to play some rounds

The thing about the community is that when you meet someone retarded and you think he's the worst suddenly someone else comes along and tops him. Though the PC community is somehow more mature than the console version.

Also what irritates me about the PC community is that there's always that one person who calls you a hacker for being a good player. I've had several people accuse me of hacking already for having a K/D above 2

Watch the videos of TBNRFrags and you'll see he gets upset a lot of times because of how the word "fag" is overused in the chat box

[MARS]

Right, forgot about the hackusations. I did so poorly on BO2 that I literally only played it till the end so that I can prestige and reset my awful stats (I've always been kinda OCD about stats in games). And yet, even though I was so bad, that still didn't stop people from calling me a hacker every once in a while, all because I predicted their movements or killed them by spraying LMG fire through a wall because I saw their muzzle poking out of a window. Oh, and talk about sore losers: How did I forget to mention the usual 'hackers win/hackers lose' comments at the end of virtually EVERY round?

[GDIZOCOM]

Right, forgot about the hackusations. I did so poorly on BO2 that I literally only played it till the end so that I can prestige and reset my awful stats (I've always been kinda OCD about stats in games). And yet, even though I was so bad, that still didn't stop people from calling me a hacker every once in a while, all because I predicted their movements or killed them by spraying LMG fire through a wall because I saw their muzzle poking out of a window. Oh, and talk about sore losers: How did I forget to mention the usual 'hackers win/hackers lose' comments at the end of virtually EVERY round?

I've noticed that if you kill players several times in a row that's grounds for them to call you a hacker

[Svea Rike]

Luckily there arent that many mic-users on Wii U. And for those that do have actually never accused me for shooting them...

[Stalker]

I'm really thankful that not many PC users use a microphone. The CoD community really is a bunch of idiots. No matter what gun you use .. it is a noob weapon. If you are good, you're a hacker if you are bad (as a high-ranked player) you're a stat-cheater. On German servers, in nearly every game someone talks about Nazi-stuff. And of course all that stupid emblems.
The funny thing is .. When I played MW2 on the unofficial 4D1, people were a lot friendlier.

And about the Hacker accusations: The big problem is, there are a lof of nearly undetectable cheats around, and Killcams don't always show exactly what that player actually saw/did. So it is natural behaviour to question someone else. This is also because of the total randomness of the game engine - Bad lag compensation, as well as Rate of Fire affected by local framerate.
What I mean is, people would stop crying if the game would give everyone equal chances. I know it's not possible for everyone to have the same ping, but the current situation is bullshit.

I would also like to see all the stat-displays removed. There are way too many players leaving a game as soon as there are decent opponents because they don't want to hurt their 4.0 K/D. On the other hand lot of players who played aggressively while ranking up, have rather bad K/D stats, and then get accused of cheating when playing a decent game. It would also solve the issue where people don't have enough balls to rush for the objective, but are instead camping somewhere to keep their K/D.
And please get rid of the riddicolous challenges like a 30 Killstreak or 9 Kills in rapid succession, because those can only be done by extreme spawn-attacking and camping - or boosting if you have enough people for that.
And 10 prestige ranks are way too much.

And it seems this is even worse on consoles, but those players don't seem to complain, simply because they don't know it can be better.

I still remember the day where you could play a game of counterstrike on a dedicated server without anyone blaming someone as hacker, or insulting someone's mother. Seriously, in BO2 someone wished that all of my family should die of cancer.

[GDIZOCOM]

I'm really thankful that not many PC users use a microphone. The CoD community really is a bunch of idiots. No matter what gun you use .. it is a noob weapon. If you are good, you're a hacker if you are bad (as a high-ranked player) you're a stat-cheater. On German servers, in nearly every game someone talks about Nazi-stuff. And of course all that stupid emblems.
The funny thing is .. When I played MW2 on the unofficial 4D1, people were a lot friendlier.

And about the Hacker accusations: The big problem is, there are a lof of nearly undetectable cheats around, and Killcams don't always show exactly what that player actually saw/did. So it is natural behaviour to question someone else. This is also because of the total randomness of the game engine - Bad lag compensation, as well as Rate of Fire affected by local framerate.
What I mean is, people would stop crying if the game would give everyone equal chances. I know it's not possible for everyone to have the same ping, but the current situation is bullshit.

I would also like to see all the stat-displays removed. There are way too many players leaving a game as soon as there are decent opponents because they don't want to hurt their 4.0 K/D. On the other hand lot of players who played aggressively while ranking up, have rather bad K/D stats, and then get accused of cheating when playing a decent game. It would also solve the issue where people don't have enough balls to rush for the objective, but are instead camping somewhere to keep their K/D.
And please get rid of the riddicolous challenges like a 30 Killstreak or 9 Kills in rapid succession, because those can only be done by extreme spawn-attacking and camping - or boosting if you have enough people for that.
And 10 prestige ranks are way too much.

And it seems this is even worse on consoles, but those players don't seem to complain, simply because they don't know it can be better.

I still remember the day where you could play a game of counterstrike on a dedicated server without anyone blaming someone as hacker, or insulting someone's mother. Seriously, in BO2 someone wished that all of my family should die of cancer.

In the servers I play on when we use the mic we talk about the objective with responses like "Go Left we're losing the flag" or "There's a sniper in the room there"

The basic reaction of everyone is:

"I kill you, you suck"
"You killed me, you suck"

Stat displays have been around since Black Ops 1 IIRC so I don't see a point in removing them. Though I do agree that people get too hooked onto their stats and they seem to care about it a little too much. As for your opinion about people actually playing the objective personally when you entire team is terrible and they get repeatedly get killed the moment they go out of the spawn I'd rather camp the rest of the match, but when with decent players I always play objective.

I've been trying to get the nuclear challenge for some time now, the closest I got was 27 before some twat spawned right behind me and shot me with an RPG

I don't find 10 Prestige Ranks too much, considering I reached it already and reset all my stats. I found MW3's Prestige 20 to be too much so I stopped at 10.


We'll I've encountered two people who are the biggest scumbags I've met in ANY online game, both of them use racial insults against any player. One time we were all in the same lobby and both of them were on the enemy team. One of them called me a poor Filipino who can't afford a mic because I didn't talk the whole game and the other one kept insulting everyone on my team for being Asian fags. I got fed up and decided to go only after those two players and they left halfway through the match because they kept talking crap and I kept killing them over and over. The funny thing is that no matter what they say on the mic or the chatbox if you manage to dominate them they'll leave the game immediately.

I've managed to balance my K/D and SPM in my stats though if you ask me the Score Per Minute is more important than whatever the hell kills you'll get in your lifetime.

[Pepo]

The thing of the insults is lame.i have only play a few matches and everytime there were indultd every where.i remenber playing with a friend on ps3 and the match was horrible.also i found funny that they call my noob for whatever and when i kill then using a tomahawk i am a cheater and a hacker and whatever...
Anyway my opinion is that the matchs normally get better after six-nine months,when most of this people have leave the game

[Stalker]

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SPM is more important than K/D but only the individual gamemode stats. Because you can get more than twice as much SPM in Hardpoint, than in TDM or SnD. As for the 10 Prestige levels. I reached 10 quite some time ago, and it wasn't all that bad in BO2, since you didn't have to reset challenges, Weapon rank, etc. If they use that system again, it will be fine. It was just really stupid in MW3: 20 Prestiges, while it takes ages to reach max Rank with a weapon + all the Pro Perk challenges. I didn't play MW3 that long, but I knew from the start that I wouldn't prestige.

And of course, there is one point in any game where you know you have lost, and rather camp than get slaughtered. But too often I play a game of Domination where half of my team doesn't even leave the spawn area.

Another problem about the displayed stats is that you can guess the overall skill of your opponents via the leaderbord in a game lobby. And a lot of people leave the lobby immediatly when they encounter potentially strong opponents. I usually play with 2 friends, and its often hard to find opponents who are willing to play against 3 Prestige Masters with high SPM stats. This is another reason why I think Prestige ranks and all those stats can make the game worse than it is.

Edit: There's a teaser site online at callofduty.com, so I guess the whole Ghost thing is legit.

This post has been edited by Stalker: 30 Apr 2013, 10:24

[Svea Rike]

Random discovery I made when I was still playing BO2 a few months ago:
(For clarity's sake, the dots on the globe are supposed to show active connections)

Hey, MARS, can I upload that image of yours to Memedroid if I blur out your username?

[MARS]

Sure, feel free to do so.

[Svea Rike]

Looks like a new trailer has been released:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaEwd1huKmc

I don't know about you, but this actually looks like something.

[Pepo]

Looks like a new trailer has been released:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaEwd1huKmc

I don't know about you, but this actually looks like something.

It look good,with the samurais,ninjas,spartans,natives,knigths figthing against each other

[Warpath]

Well, now there's no doubt that I WILL NOT buy that, Black Ops 2 was actually good but this... they really need to stop making Call of Duty games and start thinking of new shit.

[Stalker]

It doesn't really look interesting ... but it's a god damn teaser. Most teasers don't even show anything but floating text and a fancy background.

Well, now there's no doubt that I WILL NOT buy that, Black Ops 2 was actually good but this... they really need to stop making Call of Duty games and start thinking of new shit.

Deciding not to buy it after NOTHING has been shown makes as much sense as preordering after watching the teaser, in my opinion. I'm not telling anyone to buy (or not to buy) this, but I think it is way too early to make a decision.