Felin Rifleman and Combat Pioneer, Identical Graphic |
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Felin Rifleman and Combat Pioneer, Identical Graphic |
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![]() A Legendary Fox ![]() Group: Members Posts: 839 Joined: 14 February 2015 From: Santiago Chile Member No.: 10865 a man who play videogames, What are you waiting for me? ![]() |
Hi, Felin Rifleman with Starstreak Missiles upgrade and Combat Pioneers It made it difficult to identify, and I would like to change some things to make it easier for me to recognize them.
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![]() ![]() Group: Administrator Posts: 5732 Joined: 31 May 2009 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 1 Projects: SWR Productions Bitch slapping SAGE since 2003 ![]() |
Delete some of your previous attachments and make sure the image you are trying ti upload is jpg.
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![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2642 Joined: 18 April 2012 From: Southern Brazil. Member No.: 9084 "No. Not even in the face of Armageddon. Never compromise." ![]() |
Ok, to try to help here I will post some images that should illustrate what you are talking about.
![]() ![]() In fact are very similar as to the point of almost be impossible to identify them when in groups. Ps: I personally always thought in a Combat Pioneer more cult and stereotyped, with traditional long beard of English or French (something traditional within divisions of sappers). ![]() French Foreign Legion long beard pioneers in cerimonial uniform. ![]() Canadian soldiers keeping the traditional beard. Also I found it interesting that this text that talks about the long beards of pionners in the British Army of today: The Only Army Rank Allowed to Have a Beard on Parade OFF Topic: The beard of these soldiers should give jealousy to the @Doomhammer's beard. ![]() This post has been edited by __CrUsHeR: 2 Jun 2015, 16:44 -------------------- ![]() You already imagined how would be SAP in the ROTR's universe? Check out this fan-fiction: South American Pact Introduction |
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![]() AI Coding Expert ![]() Group: Dev. Team Posts: 1846 Joined: 9 May 2014 From: Poland Member No.: 10450 ![]() |
I agree
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![]() ![]() Group: Administrator Posts: 5732 Joined: 31 May 2009 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 1 Projects: SWR Productions Bitch slapping SAGE since 2003 ![]() |
A beard wouldn't add the necessary distinction to make it easily possibly to spot the difference between the two.
If anything pioneers need a different color of headwear or a different type headwear all together. -------------------- ![]() |
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 169 Joined: 12 March 2015 Member No.: 10918 ![]() |
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![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2642 Joined: 18 April 2012 From: Southern Brazil. Member No.: 9084 "No. Not even in the face of Armageddon. Never compromise." ![]() |
A beard wouldn't add the necessary distinction to make it easily possibly to spot the difference between the two. If anything pioneers need a different color of headwear or a different type headwear all together. A long red beard could help (perhaps non-textured, which moves parallel to the chest), and a grey, black or brow beret. I think of a guy like this English pionner: ![]() This post has been edited by __CrUsHeR: 2 Jun 2015, 17:40 -------------------- ![]() You already imagined how would be SAP in the ROTR's universe? Check out this fan-fiction: South American Pact Introduction |
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 163 Joined: 9 May 2014 From: Malaysia Member No.: 10451 ![]() |
maybe its because of the starstreak launcher and CP's mortar on the soldier's back that makes it too alike, especially with rear view
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![]() A Legendary Fox ![]() Group: Members Posts: 839 Joined: 14 February 2015 From: Santiago Chile Member No.: 10865 a man who play videogames, What are you waiting for me? ![]() |
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![]() Losing Karma to Vault Boy ![]() Group: Tester Posts: 1302 Joined: 7 June 2009 From: Canada/S.Korea Member No.: 34 Some future plan mod for AoE3:Asian Dynasty or FO4 ![]() |
If anything pioneers need a different color of headwear or a different type headwear all together. Different color of headgear will be nice. Like a dark blue or navy color. -------------------- ![]() Let's kick this Russian Tank's ass back to the Bronze Age! Twitch Chart ID: Mr_kim82 Moddb ID: Mr_Kim |
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![]() AI Coding Expert ![]() Group: Dev. Team Posts: 1846 Joined: 9 May 2014 From: Poland Member No.: 10450 ![]() |
or an overhead small icon of a wrench or something that would indicate them as well
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![]() I like turtles. ![]() Group: Members Posts: 139 Joined: 7 June 2009 From: Fort Matador ; ECA Base in Spain. Member No.: 33 Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room! ▀▀▀█ ▀▀▀█ ![]() |
I would suggest a bigger backpack for the Pionneer
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![]() Certified Shitposter ![]() Group: Tester Posts: 2410 Joined: 30 December 2013 From: Straya' Member No.: 10248 pls join my games im lonely =c ![]() |
I would suggest a bigger backpack for the Pionneer I agree with this. Or you could either swap the felins or pioneers mortar/aa launcher to the other shoulder -------------------- ![]() Many thanks to IvanMRM for my avatar and Star for drawing my epic signature. You guys rock! Join our Discord Server for a great community and plenty of games and memes! Also, check out our ROTR - Fan group on Facebook. |
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![]() Group: Donator Posts: 1011 Joined: 3 February 2014 Member No.: 10281 ![]() |
For beard-kind, make it happen
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![]() Orcinius Genocidalus ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2428 Joined: 11 July 2012 From: North Vancouver Member No.: 9223 No, you move. ![]() |
I second this motion.
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![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 91 Joined: 25 April 2015 From: Germany Member No.: 11192 ![]() |
A long red beard could help (perhaps non-textured, which moves parallel to the chest), and a grey, black or brow beret. I think of a guy like this English pionner: ![]() For the beard! For the beret! ![]() -------------------- Greetings, Vinrock
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 18 April 2015 Member No.: 11144 ![]() |
What if you simply made the Pioneer carry the mortar horizontally; similar to how this US soldier is carrying his mortar:
![]() The long horizontal bar of the mortar on the Pioneer's front or back would probably be recognizable at the standard camera height. This post has been edited by Guard Llama: 3 Jun 2015, 15:43 |
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![]() umu ![]() Group: Members Posts: 322 Joined: 17 October 2014 From: Water Mexico Member No.: 10691 No more. ![]() |
What if you simply made the Pioneer carry the mortar horizontally; similar to how this US soldier is carrying his mortar: ![]() The long horizontal bar of the mortar on the Pioneer's front or back would probably be recognizable at the standard camera height. Horizontally-placed mortar on the Pioneer's back sounds great. If it's still lacking, you could also put those round-shaped anti-tank mines on his backpack too. |
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 169 Joined: 12 March 2015 Member No.: 10918 ![]() |
I think all of these changes would make the pioneer stand out more. (Beard, beret and backpack)
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![]() ![]() Group: Administrator Posts: 5732 Joined: 31 May 2009 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 1 Projects: SWR Productions Bitch slapping SAGE since 2003 ![]() |
You all severely underestimate on how difficult it is to actualy make any of the things you suggest work.
-A beard does not give the visual detail necessary to differentiate the unit from an other at all. -The back pack is as large as it can be without looking silly -Infantry weapons are excessively large to so that they are easily recognizable at a distance as such carrying the mortar as described is not possible without looking silly. And finally because we do not have a budget, props or actors for realistic cameos i need to find my source files on google and there isn't a single picture of a man with a beard and a beret using a mortar. I will do something but none of the things mentioned here. -------------------- ![]() |
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 169 Joined: 12 March 2015 Member No.: 10918 ![]() |
You all severely underestimate on how difficult it is to actualy make any of the things you suggest work. -A beard does not give the visual detail necessary to differentiate the unit from an other at all. -The back pack is as large as it can be without looking silly -Infantry weapons are excessively large to so that they are easily recognizable at a distance as such carrying the mortar as described is not possible without looking silly. And finally because we do not have a budget, props or actors for realistic cameos i need to find my source files on google and there isn't a single picture of a man with a beard and a beret using a mortar. I will do something but none of the things mentioned here. For the cameo thing, use the existing one. It's taken from behind. |
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 18 April 2015 Member No.: 11144 ![]() |
You all severely underestimate on how difficult it is to actualy make any of the things you suggest work. -A beard does not give the visual detail necessary to differentiate the unit from an other at all. -The back pack is as large as it can be without looking silly -Infantry weapons are excessively large to so that they are easily recognizable at a distance as such carrying the mortar as described is not possible without looking silly. And finally because we do not have a budget, props or actors for realistic cameos i need to find my source files on google and there isn't a single picture of a man with a beard and a beret using a mortar. I will do something but none of the things mentioned here. If you already have something concrete in mind then you can obviously ignore the following suggestion: What if you switched the position of the Pioneer PDW and Mortar? So by default the Pioneer would carry a mortar horizontally in his hands and the PDW could still be visible on his backpack. Yes the mortar is quite long, but I don't think it's any longer than the recoilless rifle carried by Chinese tankhunters (who I believe carry their weapon across their chest when moving), so it wouldn't necessarily look silly. At the same time, I recognize that switching these elements would require work and might not look great in the end. |
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![]() AI Coding Expert ![]() Group: Dev. Team Posts: 1846 Joined: 9 May 2014 From: Poland Member No.: 10450 ![]() |
Can't you put like an overhead icon on top of his head similar to the mod ( Vietnamese War Obscured) that would tell them apart from felins?
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![]() That person ![]() Group: Project Leader Posts: 1425 Joined: 20 September 2009 From: Cyberspace Member No.: 417 C&C ShockWave Co-Leader ![]() |
Because that's a cheap way to differentiate them, and shows laziness. V:GO did it because their realism made all infantry look similar. But ROTR is a more stylized mod, so that should not be necessary.
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 169 Joined: 12 March 2015 Member No.: 10918 ![]() |
Because that's a cheap way to differentiate them, and shows laziness. V:GO did it because their realism made all infantry look similar. But ROTR is a more stylized mod, so that should not be necessary. I agree. I would much rather see the unit be given a more unique appearance. Such as the beret/beard combo. |
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