Southafrican units |
Southafrican units |
26 Nov 2016, 6:15
Post
#1
|
|
Group: Members Posts: 353 Joined: 9 July 2013 Member No.: 10025 |
Visuals
Logo: A ROTR style version of the coat of arms of southafrica, with two spears in a x, and two arrows in a I I Position, like so IXI Building material: Hesco bastions, white roofs, steel factory style layouts, but with lech machinery and more fuel tanks, supply crates and landing zones as well as some infield equipment, each building houses a truck Armoury camo: Light tan with yellow/sand lines, with black team color. with dirt on the tracks and some minor uncleaness. Infantry cloth: Mostly sand color, with faction color backpacks and role specific helmet colors. Weapons are ECA level detailed Construction: A Military HQ at the start can construct the SAMIL (20/60/100) series of trucks, upgrades of tiers enhance the HQ and unlocks tier 1 S60 and the Tier 2 S100 which are for larger structures A gamer select one of some buildings according to its tier, but they are one use, cost is split between truck and structure, can not really be moved once "unfolded" into structure A Series 20 can "unfold" intro a Barracks as well as: Launch Rail, Generator, Field Garage, COM-Station, Supply Stash .Is Tier 0 and can be build right at the start 60s unfold into large generators, Armoury, defenves and tech centres, while 100s can become hybrid generators and Air control stations as well as Arsenals Power: Upgrade a SAMIL 20 tier 0 vehicle with a generator, for some power, later the 60 provied more power and a 100 the most power. These trucks actually require energy without generators even when not upgraded or assigned. Supplies: This vehicle type fufill also a supply collector and, upgraded as Supply stash, stash it. They can repair vehicles when upgraded as repair units Defence: A Tier 1 can unfold into a 23mm Flak, a 84mm Mortar and a ZT4 ATGM-Launcher, the only defences that can move but still require power and aree weak vs structures/defences and are slow Superweapon: The air control calls in 4 swardrons of Cheetah supersonic fighter-bombers that saturate the area with bombs, cannons and rockets. They can be intercepted easily but their numbers, as well as the fact they come from all four corners of the map, makes more them effective at supporting assaults. They move fast, and their weapons are more effective vs structures, though less vs superheavies. Tier mechanic: Upgrade tier one is availbe at start but at high cost, tier 2 needs a armory and tech centre. South Africa's arsenal is largely, almost completly indegenous, designed, produced and fielded by Southafrica, except ammo and fuel. Infantry: Grunt are the starting infantry, armed with CR-21 carbines, while they are rather mediocrie, like a rebel or guard, and lacking their abilitiles, they can be upgraded infield, for free, into one of these: 1. Agent, tier 1 infantry that carry SP1 sidearms and remote detonatable charges, stealthed and can deactivate defences, but not other strucutres. Fast movers but fragile, 2.Pionier tier 0 infantry, armed with MAG-7 shotguns , they repair defences and only defences, and lastly can deploy mannable turrets, a Mortar, a Heavy MG and a Grenade MG which require grunts to be manned 3.Scout tier 0 infantry, large sight radius but no detection, carries BXP, stealthed. Can mark enemies via ability, which increases damage they take. 4.Marksman tier 0 infantry, outfitted with R4 DMR rifles, inflict higher damage and are the mainline infantry that can capture structures Fire Support Team, two guys, one with a M4 mortar, and the other with a Mini-SS, one deploys and fires the mortar, the other always fires the Mini-SS MG to suppress infantry. Can throw a M854 smoke to debuff via ability AT/SA Infantry: Fires FT5 HEAT/RA vs ground (can be intercepted but not fooled), and V3 Darter vs Aircraft (fastest aa missiles in ROTR, can be intercepted/fooled but with dificulty) PAW-Trooper, degarrison and anti defences, do work well vs ground but their PAW-20 has a ammo system, the first salvos are fired very fast, once depleted the rof sinks to a low. Crew. When a southafrican vehicle is destroyed, a armed dude, like a pilot, is released, armed with a Z88 pistol. Can't gain veterancy, and does not work like a pilot for exp transfer. Zambo: Commando of southafrican forces, NTW-14,5 AM-Rifle that costs money to use each time but kills pilot, used via ability, not useable vs superheavies. Uses a Protecta slug gun when fighting normally, and gets stronger actually the less health is left. Can destroy also defences with NTW-14,5. Stealth when not firing. Vehicles SAMIL Trucks. Can fuffil many things for the gamer if used correctly, no use as offensive unit though Vulture:Compact Scout UAV build by launch rail upgrade, cannot be directly controlled, detects stealth Gecko 8x8:. A light attack vehicle armed with a M4 commando Mortar, long minimum range, select smoke or bombs Walker: Small walker based, more realistic of course, armed with Y3 AGL, can temporally walk faster when needed Olifant, a tier 2 tank with 140mm cannon, the only tank in Southafrican arsenal, and the only tracked vehicle as well, heavy armour,coax-MG, anti-air grenade cups, but mostly to soak up enemy fire, GP along with MBombe Nyala MRAP: A mineimmune, blast resistant transport, armed with a HMG. Can transport 8 men, but moves a bit slow ZA-SPADS: Modernized with a 40mm autocannon in one side, and a Darter-Launcher at the other, highly effective but short ranged AA unit Rhino: 155mm howitzer with normal HE-FRAG and also two special rounds, RF-Jammer that work like ECM/Flare shells and long reloadable incendiary shells for special attacks can fire one the move, but slower. Mbombe: Its turret composes of AT-Missiles, a 14,5mm autocannon, anti-air grenade cups and a anti-missile system, a tier 2 heavy vehicle, fast and nimble for its class, and can even garrison 1 additional fireport. GP Valkiri MRLS long range rockets that can be intercepted, pack much power, and can fire also AT-Mine cluster or fire a entire barrage at one location. Aircraft Rooivalk Only helicopter with explosive primary cannon, AT missiles and AA missiles. Allrounder with high HP. The Rooivalk could use a Alpha strike, in which it fires all its weapons on one target for a short time, long recharge The Rooivalk has one glaring weakness, it needs to be relaoded at the airfield. Oryx: Transport heli with 10 slots, doesnt stand out that much, though it is rather cheap for its class. Support Aircraft Denel Koala, simple looking, but effective in dropping 1 gecko and 1 walker AH-1 Alpha: Strafing attack helicopters filled with rockets, bombs and fuel tanks SKUA support uav confers boni to near ground units MUPSOW cruise missile: While in flight after called in, the player can select its warhead This post has been edited by Die Hindenburg: 26 Nov 2016, 6:27 |
|
|
26 Nov 2016, 13:25
Post
#2
|
|
The Forums American Hotshot Flyboy Group: Tester Posts: 2859 Joined: 22 November 2012 From: The foundation of modern freedom and Liberty;United States of America. Member No.: 9500 |
Theres alredy a unitlist made for SANDFOR, check it out in the fanfiction area
-------------------- |
|
|
26 Nov 2016, 17:37
Post
#3
|
|
Group: Members Posts: 353 Joined: 9 July 2013 Member No.: 10025 |
Edit
Visuals Logo: A ROTR style version of the coat of arms of southafrica, with two spears in a x, and two arrows in a I I Position, like so IXI Building material: Hesco bastions, white roofs, steel factory style layouts, but with lech machinery and more fuel tanks, supply crates and landing zones as well as some infield equipment, each building houses a truck Armoury camo: Light tan with yellow/sand lines, with black team color. with dirt on the tracks and some minor uncleaness. Infantry cloth: Mostly sand color, with faction color backpacks and role specific helmet colors. Weapons are ECA level detailed Vehicles are angular Name theme are directly from Southafricans military Construction: A Military HQ at the start can construct the Denel (20/60/100) series of trucks, upgrades of tiers enhance the HQ and unlocks tier 1 D60 and the Tier 2 SD00 which are for larger structures A gamer select one of some buildings according to its tier, but they are one use, cost is split between truck and structure, can not really be moved once "unfolded" into structure A Series 20 can "unfold" intro a Barracks as well as: Launch Rail, Generator, Field Garage, COM-Station, Supply Stash .Is Tier 0 and can be build right at the start 60s unfold into large generators, Armoury, defenves and tech centres, while 100s can become hybrid generators and Air control stations as well as Arsenals Power: Upgrade a starting 20 class tier 0 vehicle with a generator, for some power, later the 60 one provides more power and a 100 the most power. These trucks actually require energy without generators even when not upgraded or assigned. Supplies: This vehicle type fufill also a supply collector and, upgraded as Supply stash, stash it. They can repair vehicles when upgraded as repair units Defence: A Tier 1 can unfold into a 23mm Flak, a 84mm Mortar and a ZT4 ATGM-Launcher, the only defences that can move but still require power and aree weak vs structures/defences and are slow Superweapon: The air control calls in 4 swardrons of Cheetah supersonic fighter-bombers that saturate the area with bombs, cannons and rockets. They can be intercepted easily but their numbers, as well as the fact they come from all four corners of the map, makes more them effective at supporting assaults. They move fast, and their weapons are more effective vs structures, though less vs superheavies. The Cheetah looks http://www.military-today.com/aircraft/atlas_cheetah.htm but bigger sized with huge payload Tier mechanic: Upgrade tier one is availbe at start but at high cost, tier 2 needs a armory and tech centre. South Africa's arsenal is largely, almost completly indegenous, designed, produced and fielded by Southafrica, except ammo and fuel. Infantry: Grunt are the starting infantry, armed with CR-21 carbines, while they are rather mediocrie, like a rebel or guard, and lacking their abilitiles, they can be upgraded infield, for free, into one of these: 1. Demoman, tier 1 infantry that carry SP1 sidearms and remote detonatable charges, stealthed and can deactivate defences, but not other strucutres. Fast movers but fragile, 2.Pionier tier 0 infantry, armed with MAG-7 shotguns , they repair defences and only defences, and lastly can deploy mannable turrets, a Mortar, a Heavy MG and a Grenade MG which require grunts to be manned 3.Scout tier 0 infantry, large sight radius but no detection, carries BXP, stealthed. Can mark enemies via ability, which increases damage they take. 4.Marksman tier 0 infantry, outfitted with R1 DMR rifles, inflict higher damage and are the mainline infantry that can capture structures https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vektor_CR-21 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milkor_9mm_...Sub-Machine_Gun https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:VektorSP1.jpg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAG-7 R1 are DMR modifications of FN FAL Fire Support Team, two guys, one with a M4 mortar, and the other with a Mini-SS, one deploys and fires the mortar, the other always fires the Mini-SS MG to suppress infantry. Can throw a M854 smoke to debuff via ability https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vektor_SS-77 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-4_Commando_Mortar Armour Killer: Fires FT5 HEAT/RA vs ground (can be intercepted but not fooled), and V3 Darter vs Aircraft (fastest aa missiles in ROTR, can be intercepted/fooled but with dificulty) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denel_FT5 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistral_(missile) PAW Trooper, degarrison and anti defences, do work well vs ground but their PAW-20 has a ammo system, the first salvos are fired very fast, once depleted the rof sinks to a low. http://guns.wikia.com/wiki/Neopup_PAW-20 Vehicle Crew. When a southafrican vehicle is destroyed, a armed dude, like a pilot, is released, armed with a Z88 pistol. Can't gain veterancy, and does not work like a pilot for exp transfer. The Z88 is a heavily changed FS92 Zambo: Commando of southafrican forces, NTW-14,5 AM-Rifle that costs money to use each time but kills pilot, used via ability, not useable vs superheavies. Uses a Protecta slug gun when fighting normally, and gets stronger actually the less health is left. Can destroy also defences with NTW-14,5. Stealth when not firing. http://residentevilfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Fi...el_NTW-14_5.jpg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armsel_Striker Vehicles Denel Trucks. Can fuffil many things for the gamer if used correctly, no use as offensive unit though http://www.military-today.com/trucks/samil_20.htm Ratel UAV: Compact Scout UAV build by launch rail upgrade, cannot be directly controlled, detects stealth https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...own_%282%29.jpg the truck remains mobile Gecko LAV:. A light attack vehicle armed with a M4 commando Mortar, long minimum range, select smoke or bombs http://www.military-today.com/trucks/gecko.htm Armscorp: Small walker based, more realistic of course, armed with Y3 AGL, can temporally walk faster when needed http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/metalg...=20150906190213 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Y3_AGL.JPG Meerkat: Standard armoured vehicle, 105mm, fires the first salvos faster, like the PAW trooper http://www.military-today.com/artillery/rooikat_105.htm Olifant: MBT a tier 2 tank with 140mm cannon, the only tank in Southafrican arsenal, and the only tracked vehicle as well, heavy armour,coax-MG, anti-air grenade cups, but mostly to soak up enemy fire, GP unlock https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Olifant_Mk2_AAD2014.JPG Nyala MRAP: A mine and blast resistant transport, armed with a HMG. Can transport 8 men, but moves a bit slow http://www.military-today.com/apc/rg31_nyala.htm Drakon SPADS: Modernized with a 40mm autocannon in one side, and a Darter-Launcher at the other, highly effective but short ranged AA unit http://www.military-today.com/artillery/za_35.htm https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:DANEL0094.jpg Renoster Howitzer: 155mm howitzer with normal HE-FRAG and also two special rounds, RF-Jammer that work like ECM/Flare shells and long reloadable incendiary shells for special attacks can fire one the move, but slower. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Denel_..._(DanieVDM).jpg Mbombe heav IFV: Its turret composes of AT-Missiles, a 14,5mm autocannon, anti-air grenade cups and a anti-missile system, a tier 2 heavy vehicle, fast and nimble for its class, and can even garrison 1 additional fireport. GP http://www.military-today.com/apc/mbombe.htm Valkiri MRLS: long range rockets that can be intercepted, pack much power, and can fire also AT-Mine cluster or fire a entire barrage at one location. http://www.military-today.com/artillery/valkiri.htm Khimera special support Armed with quad 40mm antiair guns, can transport 12 guys, mine resitance, mobile heavy AA, speedy despite that http://killzone.wikia.com/wiki/File:APCeeee.JPG 6x6 wheels, large and can crush small vehicles, must be unlocked Aircraft Rooivalk Only helicopter with explosive primary cannon, AT missiles and AA missiles. Allrounder with high HP. The Rooivalk could use a Alpha strike, in which it fires all its weapons on one target for a short time, long recharge The Rooivalk has one glaring weakness, it needs to be relaoded at the airfield. http://www.military-today.com/helicopters/...h2_rooivalk.htm Oryx: Transport heli with 10 slots, doesnt stand out that much, though it is rather cheap for its class. http://www.military-today.com/helicopters/oryx.htm Support Aircraft for general powers Denel Koala, simple looking, but effective transport plane in dropping Gecko and Armscorp http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/i...=20120315214113 AH-1 Alpha: Strafing attack helicopters filled with rockets, bombs and fuel tanks https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:XH-1_Alpha.jpg with more guhs SKUA support uav confers boni to near ground units https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denel_Dynamics_Skua ATLAS cruise missile: While in flight after called in, the player can select its warhead http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforce/w...-cruise-missile Velum 2020 Drobs ammo, medic, support crates. Also drops mannable turrets http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/gtawik...=20160302173740 |
|
|
26 Nov 2016, 19:17
Post
#4
|
|
The Forums American Hotshot Flyboy Group: Tester Posts: 2859 Joined: 22 November 2012 From: The foundation of modern freedom and Liberty;United States of America. Member No.: 9500 |
Gueesss your not interested on Improving things already posted and mixing them up for an even better faction concept...Okay...
-------------------- |
|
|
26 Nov 2016, 20:37
Post
#5
|
|
Group: Members Posts: 353 Joined: 9 July 2013 Member No.: 10025 |
|
|
|
26 Nov 2016, 22:14
Post
#6
|
|
The Forums American Hotshot Flyboy Group: Tester Posts: 2859 Joined: 22 November 2012 From: The foundation of modern freedom and Liberty;United States of America. Member No.: 9500 |
-------------------- |
|
|
26 Nov 2016, 23:07
Post
#7
|
|
Group: Members Posts: 353 Joined: 9 July 2013 Member No.: 10025 |
Thanks will help. |
|
|
25 Feb 2017, 17:34
Post
#8
|
|
Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 3 December 2016 Member No.: 13368 |
This team is cool ideas. You get the my support.
|
|
|
26 Feb 2017, 18:19
Post
#9
|
|
Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 7 February 2017 From: Europe Member No.: 14509 "Life is a horizontal fall" ★ |
Kind of too much MGSV inspired I think.
You talk about Geckos and Walkers, mechas do not appear in ROTR. Also, the entire South African military force is based on rugged, quick-and-dirty operations without excessive support or technological reliance although one must differ the SADF and the post-apartheid SANDF forces AKA read a good Osprey Publishing book about that. Also, why no Super Hinds? The epitome of South African bush war operations. -------------------- |
|
|
27 Feb 2017, 7:22
Post
#10
|
|
Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 3 December 2016 Member No.: 13368 |
Kind of too much MGSV inspired I think. You talk about Geckos and Walkers, mechas do not appear in ROTR. Also, the entire South African military force is based on rugged, quick-and-dirty operations without excessive support or technological reliance although one must differ the SADF and the post-apartheid SANDF forces AKA read a good Osprey Publishing book about that. Also, why no Super Hinds? The epitome of South African bush war operations. Do you have Rooivalt Mk 2 be development and Superweapon , I think must be Cheetch fighter jet with Atom bomb. That my opinion. Thanks. |
|
|
27 Feb 2017, 8:38
Post
#11
|
|
The Forums American Hotshot Flyboy Group: Tester Posts: 2859 Joined: 22 November 2012 From: The foundation of modern freedom and Liberty;United States of America. Member No.: 9500 |
Rooivalt seems decent but a superweapon being a small fighter jet sounds really out of place As for what Ally said; Superhind would be better but if we're creating a faction with unique units and all Rooivalt seems the way to go in terms of shape and design Also south africa is the LAST NATION TO EVER USE NUKES They are like the only nation that gave up their nuclear weapons? I'll see if I can think of a south african superweapon but they alraedy have one.It calls in 4 spectre like gunships to target an area This post has been edited by (USA)Bruce: 27 Feb 2017, 8:42 -------------------- |
|
|
27 Feb 2017, 18:22
Post
#12
|
|
Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 3 December 2016 Member No.: 13368 |
Rooivalt seems decent but a superweapon being a small fighter jet sounds really out of place As for what Ally said; Superhind would be better but if we're creating a faction with unique units and all Rooivalt seems the way to go in terms of shape and design Also south africa is the LAST NATION TO EVER USE NUKES They are like the only nation that gave up their nuclear weapons? I'll see if I can think of a south african superweapon but they alraedy have one.It calls in 4 spectre like gunships to target an area Give up atom weapon, didn't mean that they can make new atom bomb. If they are in war. Sprcture gunship are not in South Africa arensal. |
|
|
27 Feb 2017, 19:14
Post
#13
|
|
The Forums American Hotshot Flyboy Group: Tester Posts: 2859 Joined: 22 November 2012 From: The foundation of modern freedom and Liberty;United States of America. Member No.: 9500 |
Superweapon: "The air control calls in 4 swardrons of Cheetah supersonic fighter-bombers that saturate the area with bombs, cannons and rockets. They can be intercepted easily but their numbers, as well as the fact they come from all four corners of the map, makes more them effective at supporting assaults. They move fast, and their weapons are more effective vs structures, though less vs superheavies."
It suggests its a mixture of ECA's bomblet airstrike and something like a-10, but the corners of the map means that they'll use the spectre gunship code.The way they can move their weapons from target to target also suggest that. They gave up nuclear weapons for the morals, also nukes are chinas special area or to an extent russias.Neutron weapons are ECA's ingame and lorewise chinas too. Nukes would not fit south africa what so ever, Also just because the spectre gunship is an american thing doesnt mean its alien tech.Hell alongside the old US navy ships sold off in the lore, the old spectre gunships were also sold worldwide. -------------------- |
|
|
27 Feb 2017, 21:48
Post
#14
|
|
Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 3 December 2016 Member No.: 13368 |
Superweapon: "The air control calls in 4 swardrons of Cheetah supersonic fighter-bombers that saturate the area with bombs, cannons and rockets. They can be intercepted easily but their numbers, as well as the fact they come from all four corners of the map, makes more them effective at supporting assaults. They move fast, and their weapons are more effective vs structures, though less vs superheavies." It suggests its a mixture of ECA's bomblet airstrike and something like a-10, but the corners of the map means that they'll use the spectre gunship code.The way they can move their weapons from target to target also suggest that. They gave up nuclear weapons for the morals, also nukes are chinas special area or to an extent russias.Neutron weapons are ECA's ingame and lorewise chinas too. Nukes would not fit south africa what so ever, Also just because the spectre gunship is an american thing doesnt mean its alien tech.Hell alongside the old US navy ships sold off in the lore, the old spectre gunships were also sold worldwide. Agree with you. You have point. Thanks. |
|
|
30 Oct 2017, 15:21
Post
#15
|
|
Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 18 October 2017 Member No.: 16064 |
Theres alredy a unitlist made for SANDFOR, check it out in the fanfiction area Hi hi First of all sorry for resurrecting this old thread. I recently joined and i happen to be both a long time Generals fan (since 2002) and South African. So where is this unitlist/thread? i couldn't find it. I think given the history of South(ern) Africa (and it's people's general hard-headedness and knack for surviving almost anything) they would be a good faction addition (or even as part of an ECA unit, since we do support UN/EU conflicts in real life with weapons and troops). Is this still a possibility? Regards and thanks to the SWR team for making an awesome, modern version of a classic. This post has been edited by Goshawk4884: 30 Oct 2017, 15:22 |
|
|
30 Oct 2017, 19:03
Post
#16
|
|
The Forums American Hotshot Flyboy Group: Tester Posts: 2859 Joined: 22 November 2012 From: The foundation of modern freedom and Liberty;United States of America. Member No.: 9500 |
Hi hi First of all sorry for resurrecting this old thread. I recently joined and i happen to be both a long time Generals fan (since 2002) and South African. So where is this unitlist/thread? i couldn't find it. I think given the history of South(ern) Africa (and it's people's general hard-headedness and knack for surviving almost anything) they would be a good faction addition (or even as part of an ECA unit, since we do support UN/EU conflicts in real life with weapons and troops). Is this still a possibility? Regards and thanks to the SWR team for making an awesome, modern version of a classic. Heres a link to the original post and my work that added ontop of it. I should admit that just like my other fictional factions that I used for writing projects or ROTR fanfiction, this one is pretty old and amature-ish. If you want I can redo it/update it to a better quality.Would only take me a few days. -------------------- |
|
|
Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 14 June 2024 - 14:26 |