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Help! Kwai (Tank) vs. Juhziz (Demo)
MarianoRyu
post 28 Jul 2014, 12:48
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I'm stuck with trying to beat General Juhziz (Demo General) as General Kwai (Tank General).

I cannot put up my base as I'm always being harassed by combat cycles or bomb trucks in the very early game.

Help please! tongue.gif


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billdasmacks
post 28 Jul 2014, 18:09
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Too deal with the combat cycle & bomb trucks just spam a bunch of red guard and position them around your base. Try to keep them spread apart so the explosions only kill one unit.

For a more cost effective solution you could just build bullfrogs as cannon fodder but they will not have any combat use.
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post 28 Jul 2014, 18:24
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QUOTE (billdasmacks @ 28 Jul 2014, 14:09) *
Too deal with the combat cycle & bomb trucks just spam a bunch of red guard and position them around your base. Try to keep them spread apart so the explosions only kill one unit.

For a more cost effective solution you could just build bullfrogs as cannon fodder but they will not have any combat use.


Spamming Red Guard doesn't work for me, the enemy units ignore them or don't always run into them. and it's a constant resource drain. Bullfrogs I haven't tried, but I'd rather my units have a chance to take out enemy forces that just serve as cannon fodder.

I need to get a War Factory working ASAP but it's always my Supply Center, sometimes even my first Power Plant getting targeted - when I'm building it.

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post 30 Jul 2014, 6:54
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Spamming Red Guard doesn't work for me, the enemy units ignore them or don't always run into them. and it's a constant resource drain. Bullfrogs I haven't tried, but I'd rather my units have a chance to take out enemy forces that just serve as cannon fodder.

I need to get a War Factory working ASAP but it's always my Supply Center, sometimes even my first Power Plant getting targeted - when I'm building it.


Not need a spam, only three for the initial attack from cycles, remember each guard will stop a c cycle, spread for better. Or wait the first wave, the bikes attack at dozer and command center, but cost more. Then a simple defenses in the sides from the base, and build a airfield. Yes, is the more cost efective way is build helixs for clear bombs, tank and artillery. Then from the third helix and the map sure, can build a war factory, and use tanks for support your defenses. Use bullfrogs for take recourses, build your superweapons and secundary economy, destroy the Scud Storm, and the palace and Juhziz is out.


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post 30 Jul 2014, 13:21
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QUOTE (Shockfan42 @ 30 Jul 2014, 2:54) *
Not need a spam, only three for the initial attack from cycles, remember each guard will stop a c cycle, spread for better. Or wait the first wave, the bikes attack at dozer and command center, but cost more. Then a simple defenses in the sides from the base, and build a airfield. Yes, is the more cost efective way is build helixs for clear bombs, tank and artillery. Then from the third helix and the map sure, can build a war factory, and use tanks for support your defenses. Use bullfrogs for take recourses, build your superweapons and secundary economy, destroy the Scud Storm, and the palace and Juhziz is out.


It will take me a couple of tries but I think I'm getting the hang of defending. I can at least stop the first wave of combat cycles. I seem to get lost after building the supply center (usually I have angry mobs coming).

Before asking I tried building Helixes, and they seem to work, but I severely strained my resources there. tongue.gif So I think it will be a trial and error thing!


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post 30 Jul 2014, 13:26
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Funny enough the only general that I was able to use to pass the demo dude was prince kassad, but even then it took me a while......


And also I cannot actually pass general Townes, when I press 'CONTINUE' it'll only replay General Townes...... It's odd, and I've reinstalled the mod, and game a couple of times......


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post 30 Jul 2014, 14:11
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QUOTE (FloppyDisk99 @ 30 Jul 2014, 9:26) *
Funny enough the only general that I was able to use to pass the demo dude was prince kassad, but even then it took me a while......


And also I cannot actually pass general Townes, when I press 'CONTINUE' it'll only replay General Townes...... It's odd, and I've reinstalled the mod, and game a couple of times......


My route has so far been Dr. Thrax, Gral. Granger, Gral. Leang (her taunts didn't play except when I defeated her before the "You Are Victorious" message), Prince Kassad, Gral. Townes, and now Gral. Juhziz... unsure.gif

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post 31 Jul 2014, 8:15
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Whats your build order?
Could I have a replay along with the save file?

THe demo general usually sends in 2 quad varriants at a time...So a helix would do you wonders IMO


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post 31 Jul 2014, 12:02
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QUOTE ((USA)Bruce @ 31 Jul 2014, 4:15) *
Whats your build order?
Could I have a replay along with the save file?

THe demo general usually sends in 2 quad varriants at a time...So a helix would do you wonders IMO


I have no replay yet, but will do one when I next play (should be today or tomorrow).

My build order is Barracks, then Power plant, then Supply center (I use two dozers). After that I'm split on War Factory or Airfield, I decided to go for the latter to get at least one Helix, while having the other dozer try to build defenses. But Helixes don't always get the damned bikes.


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Can I have the save file? So I can quickly jump into the action?

Your not supposed to use helixe's like that, but rather have 1 dozer inside just incase, remember to cell your CC...and chase them down, keep an eye out!

Btw mines are your frineds too


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post 31 Jul 2014, 22:34
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QUOTE ((USA)Bruce @ 31 Jul 2014, 18:30) *
Can I have the save file? So I can quickly jump into the action?

Your not supposed to use helixe's like that, but rather have 1 dozer inside just incase, remember to cell your CC...and chase them down, keep an eye out!

Btw mines are your frineds too


I'm still at work. I'll be sure to send it as soon as I get home!

EDIT: And now that I've come home, here it is as promised.

Savegame

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I downloaded it and will check it out tommarow...Hope this is HARD not normal


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post 4 Aug 2014, 16:58
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I beat him, in the end, by playing a defensive game. I had two Emperor tanks in my base and dedicated to strengthen up my defenses while having my pilots (an airfield for the northern base, two for the main base) level his buildings. The three nukes didn't hurt either. tongue.gif

I couldn't escape the initial (5:00) Scud Storm, but had my airfield well away from my Command Center.


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I finished it with just boxing in my supply, capturing the oils with overlord drops and whorwing overlords till I can get enough hackvans to spam out some overlords....Rest is history


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