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Harder Ai, Title says it all
The_Lungy
post 2 Mar 2014, 6:42
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Yo, I was wondering if there were any modifications that were compatible with Shockwave mod that would change the Ai's behavior, I know The shockwave AI as it stands is different from ZH, but when you play over 100 matches with Hard Armies it gets quite repetitive. Any suggestions?
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post 2 Mar 2014, 8:33
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I think you should try playing Online with Gameranger or Hamachi.

Improving the AI....Hmmm................Try This. Though it is for ZH, It might work for Shockwave :-

http://www.cnclabs.com/mods/generals/advancedaimod/


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post 2 Mar 2014, 11:31
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Yes, if you've played over 100 matches then you must like the game, and in that case you are welcome to join our little "group" and play with us - other players. Be advised though that PvP games are very different from what you are used to so it'll be a new challenge smile.gif

The hamachi network is called C&C Generals ZH Mods - here you'll find plenty of people including myself to play with.


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post 2 Mar 2014, 15:33
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play on gameranger there are alwys some players there,

http://www.gameranger.com/




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post 2 Mar 2014, 23:09
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I have tuungle, but noone is ever online :c

Ill download Hamachi or something, If you guys want you can add me on Steam and message me when you guys wanna play.

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QUOTE (The_Lungy @ 2 Mar 2014, 6:42) *
Yo, I was wondering if there were any modifications that were compatible with Shockwave mod that would change the Ai's behavior, I know The shockwave AI as it stands is different from ZH, but when you play over 100 matches with Hard Armies it gets quite repetitive. Any suggestions?



I have the same opinion. I was wondering if the Mod Advanced AI 0.98 works along with SW? Anyone?


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post 1 May 2014, 9:21
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QUOTE (The_Lungy @ 2 Mar 2014, 7:42) *
Yo, I was wondering if there were any modifications that were compatible with Shockwave mod that would change the Ai's behavior, I know The shockwave AI as it stands is different from ZH, but when you play over 100 matches with Hard Armies it gets quite repetitive. Any suggestions?


Somewhat along the same lines: How exactly do you code an AI? Often, in mods, the levels are pretty close to each other in terms of difficulty and either they're pretty easy or truly insane/cheating. It seems to depend on the taste of the coder in question. Obviously, since the AI is the computer, coding must be done in objective (i.e. non-fuzzy logic) terms and I assume they rely on buildlists, automated responses when enemies progress within a certain distance of the base, basic (very basic) strategy etc. Also, they cannot be map-specific (that is what scripts are for...), but still I wonder how it is done...?



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QUOTE (The_Lungy @ 2 Mar 2014, 1:42) *
Yo, I was wondering if there were any modifications that were compatible with Shockwave mod that would change the Ai's behavior, I know The shockwave AI as it stands is different from ZH, but when you play over 100 matches with Hard Armies it gets quite repetitive. Any suggestions?


Have you tried lower money, $10,000 against the AI?


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post 19 Jun 2014, 18:33
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QUOTE (Karpet @ 2 May 2014, 21:20) *
Have you tried lower money, $10,000 against the AI?


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post 21 Jun 2014, 11:59
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Now try 5000. biggrin.gif

To be serious however, you won't find actual challenge (RotR has "better" AI and it just has an even worse money hack) against the AI, I suggest playing online.
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post 21 Jun 2014, 13:44
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Well, of course, you can always make a challenge for yourself and limit your tactics, aka infantry only v. Thrax, or something.


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post 21 Jun 2014, 14:21
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Hamachi is a waste of time if you're trying to play Shockwave, Gameranger is much more active. Still, keep Hamachi, there are a few players, especially good ones that you can call over to GR that don't really frequent it.
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post 12 Oct 2014, 8:23
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QUOTE (The_Lungy @ 2 Mar 2014, 6:42) *
Yo, I was wondering if there were any modifications that were compatible with Shockwave mod that would change the Ai's behavior, I know The shockwave AI as it stands is different from ZH, but when you play over 100 matches with Hard Armies it gets quite repetitive. Any suggestions?

Here's something you can try.

I downloaded the Zero Hour: Enhanced mod and just copied the Skirmish AI scripts file and overrided the default script file - the AI seems quite better, and I haven't noticed any bugs so far with any of the faction AIs.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/cc-generals-zero...hanced/#4871874
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post 13 Oct 2014, 14:50
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QUOTE (Shockwavelover84 @ 12 Oct 2014, 9:23) *
Here's something you can try.

I downloaded the Zero Hour: Enhanced mod and just copied the Skirmish AI scripts file and overrided the default script file - the AI seems quite better, and I haven't noticed any bugs so far with any of the faction AIs.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/cc-generals-zero...hanced/#4871874

Actually scratch this - or at least do it at your own risk
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post 18 Nov 2014, 15:18
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I actually wished to include an improved AI in my fan patch, but the difficulties in editing the AI's scripts made this idea cannot be realized.

If only someone can help me improve ShW's AI, then I'll add them into my fan patch.
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post 18 Nov 2014, 18:19
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QUOTE (nikitazero678 @ 18 Nov 2014, 8:18) *
I actually wished to include an improved AI in my fan patch, but the difficulties in editing the AI's scripts made this idea cannot be realized.

If only someone can help me improve ShW's AI, then I'll add them into my fan patch.

You think that just giving all AIs infinite money would solve the problem? Probably not as simple as it sounds, but this is the primary reason the AI in SHW is weaker than ROTR.
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