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post 12 Sep 2016, 17:57
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Why would anyone be against this change? Patriot is definitely an upgrade to Chapparal, at least visual one, if not even gameplay one, considering that the Patriot is better. Plus, it's an iconic Generals unit, so I think this is a good way to bring it back, while still keeping the Protector as stationary base defense.

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post 12 Sep 2016, 18:10
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I never liked the Patriot turret before The Chapparal is a modernized coldwar relic, it is awesome and not overused.

But mostly because I've been using it everytime I play as USA since 1.5. I expected it to have a new model like the Paladin, not this.

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post 12 Sep 2016, 18:31
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I agree that Chapparal looks good and all, it's a unique AAA concept for the Yanks (I believe it's not used in other mods), but Patriot might be superior in range. Maybe the Devs made a tradeoff - now, American T2 AA is not mobile while firing, but has longer range. Or, it might just be purely cosmetical.


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post 12 Sep 2016, 18:55
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If it have to deploy to fire then it is not a good idea IMO. The Chapparal was supposed to be exclusive to Tank Command. It's just not right, because his gameplay is Armor Cavalry and the and not the Russian slow as hell style.

Or, the plan is changed and the Patriot will be used by other generals and the Chapparal will come back in 2.0.

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post 12 Sep 2016, 19:28
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QUOTE (X1Destroy @ 12 Sep 2016, 19:55) *
Or, the plan is changed and the Patriot will be used by other generals and the Chapparal will come back in 2.0.


Probably this.


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post 12 Sep 2016, 19:38
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The Patriot functions the same way as the Chaparral and the latter is not going to make a comeback.
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post 12 Sep 2016, 19:41
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QUOTE (MARS @ 12 Sep 2016, 20:38) *
The Patriot functions the same way as the Chaparral and the latter is not going to make a comeback.



So it is simply a visual change after all.


While we are on the subject is there any word on what the other US general's t2 AA be?


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post 12 Sep 2016, 19:48
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QUOTE (MARS @ 12 Sep 2016, 19:38) *
The Patriot functions the same way as the Chaparral and the latter is not going to make a comeback.


2 bad news in a row. How sad.

RIP artillery barrage, RIP Chaparral.

But at least combat chinook is back. And new call in transport ability is awesome.

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post 12 Sep 2016, 19:50
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QUOTE (Sergeant Freedom @ 12 Sep 2016, 20:41) *
So it is simply a visual change after all.


While we are on the subject is there any word on what the other US general's t2 AA be?

Yes, the Cyclops, as has been said some time ago. The Patriot comes in addition to that for General Bradley as one his special units, the other Generals don't get anything else.
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QUOTE (SoraZ @ 12 Sep 2016, 19:50) *
Yes, the Cyclops, as has been said some time ago. The Patriot comes in addition to that for General Bradley as one his special units, the other Generals don't get anything else.



So Bradley will not have the cyclops?


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post 12 Sep 2016, 20:25
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QUOTE (SoraZ @ 12 Sep 2016, 20:50) *
The Patriot comes in addition to that for General Bradley as one his special units, the other Generals don't get anything else.


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post 13 Sep 2016, 0:51
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QUOTE (Sergeant Freedom @ 12 Sep 2016, 15:16) *
So Bradley will not have the cyclops?

Bradley will have Chaparral.
I would like all models are in the game. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE (ZunZero97 @ 13 Sep 2016, 1:51) *
Bradley will have Chaparral.
I would like all models are in the game. rolleyes.gif


No, he has the Patriot now. (its pretty much the same thing in use)


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post 13 Sep 2016, 3:22
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The Chaparral has been replaced as it looks strange having an ancient cold-war relic driving next to your M1A4 Paladin Tanks. The Patriot by comparison looks much sleeker and more modern than the old Chaparral.

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post 13 Sep 2016, 4:20
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But the patriot is just so damn generic looking. And it being a coldwar relic doesn't matter because the ancenstor of the paladin is also the exact samething. It would be beter for it to have the same treatment as the Paladin, better model, new generation vehicle but still look similar to the old one and use the same name.


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QUOTE (X1Destroy @ 12 Sep 2016, 23:20) *
But the patriot is just so damn generic looking.

It hasn't even been shown publicly at this point, how do you know?
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QUOTE (GeneralCamo @ 13 Sep 2016, 5:31) *
It hasn't even been shown publicly at this point, how do you know?

The Hunter streamed while modelling it smile.gif


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post 13 Sep 2016, 19:11
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QUOTE (Maelstrom @ 13 Sep 2016, 0:55) *
Read again smile.gif


So the Tier two Anti Air for the other two USA generals is a building ?


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The steam was good but the eCA mirror was a bit to filled with wasted potential like the procolos.
Doomhammer was overflooded by hellions though..._..
The patriot has 8 wheels but no tracks??? rolleyes.gif

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post 15 Sep 2016, 16:10
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Can someone please remake those icons for the drone strats?

imo they look like rotr 1.0..

get rid of the 90s matrix backgrounds, and as much as i like that boss doomhammer, I feel like those icons are straight from age of empires

my opinion.. I think some people could agree
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post 15 Sep 2016, 17:25
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QUOTE (Zion @ 15 Sep 2016, 20:40) *
Can someone please remake those icons for the drone strats?

imo they look like rotr 1.0..

get rid of the 90s matrix backgrounds, and as much as i like that boss doomhammer, I feel like those icons are straight from age of empires

my opinion.. I think some people could agree


Agreed, those icons look ancient. duh_worm.gif


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post 16 Sep 2016, 1:11
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QUOTE (Zion @ 15 Sep 2016, 11:10) *
imo they look like rotr 1.0..

Have you even played RotR 1.0? Most of the cameos made during that time still exist in-game today, so that would be a good thing for consistency.
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QUOTE (Zion @ 15 Sep 2016, 17:10) *
imo they look like rotr 1.0..

get rid of the 90s matrix backgrounds, and as much as i like that boss doomhammer, I feel like those icons are straight from age of empires

my opinion.. I think some people could agree
Sure princess let met get right to that.
If you're going to bother criticising someones work (I make 99% of the icons in the mod) and can't muster the decency to point out examples or give proper feed back then your "Criticism" has no inherit value at all.


QUOTE (Rohan @ 15 Sep 2016, 18:25) *
Agreed, those icons look ancient. duh_worm.gif
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