IPB

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

7 Pages V  < 1 2 3 4 > »   
Reply to this topicStart new topic
ROTR Mission!!, Fan Made Mission
Sesa
post 4 Nov 2009, 23:37
Post #26



Group Icon

Group: Members
Posts: 59
Joined: 6 July 2009
From: Northern Germany/Western Spain
Member No.: 241
"Metal is Religion!"



Very Good Idea!!!! ohmy.gif
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Genmotty
post 9 Nov 2009, 4:18
Post #27



Group Icon

Group: Members
Posts: 277
Joined: 7 November 2009
Member No.: 523



I rather enjoyed the concept of the mission, even if it wasn't the best example of a mission map. Being a mapper myself I felt that the lack of detail, or advanced scripting made the experience not as enjoyable as it could have been.

In concept the idea of 'holding the line' given limited resources is a tried and tested way to gain somebodies involvement in a mission and to spark some adrenaline at having to conserve what little forces they have. This mission could have done with a lot longer for the defense time, and probably a better form of place to defend. With two fire bases your options are somewhat limited, and the attacks were hardly likely to have overrun the player.

To be an awesome mission the player needs to find himself just about being overrun as the builder troops and re-enforcements roll in. This then makes them feel as if they have accomplished something a lot harder than it actually may have been because they have seen most of the stuff they started with destroyed.

Moving on from this the player is left with a period where nothing much happens. With the map being so open and accessible, the player can very quickly scout it out with little danger too his/her scouts and he/she feels like there wasn't much challenge in doing so. Key choke points that need a little bit of thought to deal with reward the player with the ability to then explore more of the map. This could have been implemented to the north better with a small Russian infantry base which made a few troops and had a couple of defenses. In such a way the player would need to take that out before going on to capture the oil derricks and supply area, as well as exploring the UN base.

Doing this would have also focused the player away from the Russian main base to the south, which had a similar affair set up, and automatically becomes the 'closest enemy' to attack.

When a player builds a base, the first thing they want to do is to eliminate nearby threats. Therefore by placing the enemy main base far away from the player, not only do they have to explore and deal with the rest of the map first, it also allows the enemy to put 'troops in the field' in one or two waves that the player has to deal with on the way to the main base.

In this mission, after taking out a couple of Tunguska's my small humvee and infantry force made from the starting given units was able to pick apart the little base to the south before the counter attack.

This was well implemented. Many fan made mission maps do not involved guard scripts for an AI base. Units in a game like generals provide a 'mobile threat' that you cannot just counter by moving out of range. They also provide a way to bolster the effectiveness of defensive structures, because you don't need to have so many defensive structures to still get the same 'attrition effect'. This I personally liked and didn't expect.

However! These same guards also followed my small scout force directly to my base and was wiped out by my base defenses. Thus 'guards' need to know when to retreat. This is actually somewhat difficult sometime to program into the AI scripts because when and where should these units retreat. If they go back to the base center, then often another quick strike can take out the base defense structures before they can respond. But if you leave them in the field, they become targets themselves.

This is where the sencodary bunker objective could have been capitalised on by using that as a rally point for one group of guards, while the main base had another.

When the main base was attacked, the guards from the bunker base could have moved down to encircle the attacking troops, while the main base built new guards to sent to the bunker base.

Many players would, having seen these troops cut of there own, try and retreat there first attack force to prevent them being completely destroyed. It would also make them fear for the safety of their own base, if after an attack when their base is empty of its own guards comes under attack.

Because players never like risking their main base, this is a great way to make a player be cautious and it also makes the mission longer and more enjoyable.

Finally I'd like to comment that the Russian base itself didn't look much like a base, I mean there were few 'roads' and the uneven terrain made it look as if the base had been put there as an after thought.


I'd like to thankyou for the map as it was an enjoyable 20mins however I'd hope that you'll take these points to heart for your next mapping endeavor. Hell I might even make my own ROTR mission to highlight some of these points.

Gen
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
wardog
post 10 Nov 2009, 12:07
Post #28



Group Icon

Group: Members
Posts: 154
Joined: 12 August 2009
From: Usa
Member No.: 343



h a ha the un is here to provide humanitarian aid instead of assisting you lol wow very nice the gla will return soon!!! very cool


--------------------
-Wardog-

And every day i am one step closer to home and everyday i find a reason to carry on

one of the Four Wings of Sand Island Wardog Squadron

In soviet Russia game mod you!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Pickysaurus
post 10 Nov 2009, 14:18
Post #29


Officer of the European Continental Army
Group Icon

Group: Members
Posts: 2346
Joined: 7 June 2009
From: England, Great Britain
Member No.: 71
Counter Intelligence Agent at Geek Squad UK



Did anyone else use the Ospreys as scouts in the early mission? tongue.gif


--------------------


Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Raven
post 10 Nov 2009, 15:49
Post #30



Group Icon

Group: Members
Posts: 565
Joined: 14 June 2009
From: Sri Lanka
Member No.: 155



not me....did any one capture the bunkers before taking out the base?


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Frostyarmy
post 10 Nov 2009, 18:02
Post #31


League is Life
Group Icon

Group: Tester
Posts: 746
Joined: 14 June 2009
From: America
Member No.: 153



easy misson was easy.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Genmotty
post 10 Nov 2009, 21:03
Post #32



Group Icon

Group: Members
Posts: 277
Joined: 7 November 2009
Member No.: 523



QUOTE (Raven @ 10 Nov 2009, 11:49) *
not me....did any one capture the bunkers before taking out the base?


Yeah, or rather I cleared the area and left some troops there but I forgot to actually capture capture it.




What kind of missions do people generally like playing the most?

Gen
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
wardog
post 11 Nov 2009, 12:23
Post #33



Group Icon

Group: Members
Posts: 154
Joined: 12 August 2009
From: Usa
Member No.: 343



we need re enforcements!!! lol i love this mission are you gonna make more??


--------------------
-Wardog-

And every day i am one step closer to home and everyday i find a reason to carry on

one of the Four Wings of Sand Island Wardog Squadron

In soviet Russia game mod you!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Destiny
post 11 Nov 2009, 15:51
Post #34


Twintails are eternal!
Group Icon

Group: Members
Posts: 473
Joined: 7 June 2009
From: Singapore
Member No.: 74
Lurk, cleaned and mounted.



Wow, you needed that much units? I defended against the Russian armor with what I started off with the reinforcements 8I.gif


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
CobraHumvee
post 11 Nov 2009, 17:12
Post #35



Group Icon

Group: Dev. Team
Posts: 108
Joined: 26 October 2009
From: United States
Member No.: 507



Here is a sneak peek of my next mission entitled Operation Ghost Mine! Enjoy!!

[attachment=146:sshot009.bmp]


--------------------
Signatures are overrated :)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Shiro
post 11 Nov 2009, 22:35
Post #36


Gamer Girl
Group Icon

Group: Legend
Posts: 3717
Joined: 19 June 2009
From: Disboard
Member No.: 182
ROTR PR Assistant and Friendly Freelancer



Please, for the sake of low-internet users, upload files as .png or .jpg, ok?


--------------------
Joy~
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
wardog
post 12 Nov 2009, 6:01
Post #37



Group Icon

Group: Members
Posts: 154
Joined: 12 August 2009
From: Usa
Member No.: 343



QUOTE (Destiny @ 11 Nov 2009, 3:51) *
Wow, you needed that much units? I defended against the Russian armor with what I started off with the reinforcements 8I.gif
no i was just woried about my lvl 3 palidens and my avenger ha ha


QUOTE (CobraHumvee @ 11 Nov 2009, 5:12) *
Here is a sneak peek of my next mission entitled Operation Ghost Mine! Enjoy!!

[attachment=146:sshot009.bmp]

sweet!!!


--------------------
-Wardog-

And every day i am one step closer to home and everyday i find a reason to carry on

one of the Four Wings of Sand Island Wardog Squadron

In soviet Russia game mod you!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Pickysaurus
post 12 Nov 2009, 15:49
Post #38


Officer of the European Continental Army
Group Icon

Group: Members
Posts: 2346
Joined: 7 June 2009
From: England, Great Britain
Member No.: 71
Counter Intelligence Agent at Geek Squad UK



QUOTE (CobraHumvee @ 11 Nov 2009, 13:12) *
Here is a sneak peek of my next mission entitled Operation Ghost Mine! Enjoy!!

[attachment=146:sshot009.bmp]


This doesn't really say much about the mission >.<


--------------------


Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Sesa
post 12 Nov 2009, 16:29
Post #39



Group Icon

Group: Members
Posts: 59
Joined: 6 July 2009
From: Northern Germany/Western Spain
Member No.: 241
"Metal is Religion!"



Plese make a Film or a Video from the mission!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Frostyarmy
post 12 Nov 2009, 18:49
Post #40


League is Life
Group Icon

Group: Tester
Posts: 746
Joined: 14 June 2009
From: America
Member No.: 153



Make the missions harder plox ohmy.gif
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
IonCharge
post 12 Nov 2009, 23:12
Post #41



Group Icon

Group: Members
Posts: 199
Joined: 9 August 2009
From: Outer Space
Member No.: 340
Once you see the blue light you are already dead



QUOTE (Pickysaurus @ 12 Nov 2009, 11:49) *
This doesn't really say much about the mission >.<

Defence mission maybe? idk tongue.gif


--------------------

QUOTE (Shock @ 20 Jun 2009 @ 3:40)
You make it sound like SWR's hidden some nude patch in it..

QUOTE (huhnu @ 16 May 2010, 5:06) *
I've reported it.
And have tried 5 more times anyways.
I'm pro-trolling that mod.

Your base has been targeted for demolition
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
CobraHumvee
post 13 Nov 2009, 2:27
Post #42



Group Icon

Group: Dev. Team
Posts: 108
Joined: 26 October 2009
From: United States
Member No.: 507



Here is the briefing for the mission. After defeating the Russians and preventing a chemical war, some of our operatives located a chinese mining facility. We lost contact a short time later and sent in the airforce to destroy the facility. We soon learned the chinese were ready with their AA flak cannons. Your team is being inserted by boat and your objective is to destroy the flak cannons to clear the way for air support. Be advised we have been picking chatter on the radios that is not chinese, may be linked to another faction.
P.S. Don't ask when it will be done.


--------------------
Signatures are overrated :)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
wardog
post 13 Nov 2009, 5:17
Post #43



Group Icon

Group: Members
Posts: 154
Joined: 12 August 2009
From: Usa
Member No.: 343



QUOTE (CobraHumvee @ 12 Nov 2009, 14:27) *
Here is the briefing for the mission. After defeating the Russians and preventing a chemical war, some of our operatives located a chinese mining facility. We lost contact a short time later and sent in the airforce to destroy the facility. We soon learned the chinese were ready with their AA flak cannons. Your team is being inserted by boat and your objective is to destroy the flak cannons to clear the way for air support. Be advised we have been picking chatter on the radios that is not chinese, may be linked to another faction.
P.S. Don't ask when it will be done.

so... when will it be done? XD imm just kiding i cant wait to see it


--------------------
-Wardog-

And every day i am one step closer to home and everyday i find a reason to carry on

one of the Four Wings of Sand Island Wardog Squadron

In soviet Russia game mod you!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Raven
post 13 Nov 2009, 6:23
Post #44



Group Icon

Group: Members
Posts: 565
Joined: 14 June 2009
From: Sri Lanka
Member No.: 155



Hmm the story line looks promising...good luck Cobra!!!


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Pickysaurus
post 13 Nov 2009, 19:54
Post #45


Officer of the European Continental Army
Group Icon

Group: Members
Posts: 2346
Joined: 7 June 2009
From: England, Great Britain
Member No.: 71
Counter Intelligence Agent at Geek Squad UK



I can guess that chatter you've picked up is GLA? tongue.gif


--------------------


Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
CobraHumvee
post 19 Nov 2009, 6:35
Post #46



Group Icon

Group: Dev. Team
Posts: 108
Joined: 26 October 2009
From: United States
Member No.: 507



[attachment=151:sshot011.jpg]

Just finished up the intro to the mission,took about 2 hours of fighting with world builder to get the whole scene done right. I know this pic doesnt show much but it is still a nice pic. wink.gif One quick question how do i add the bar under some of your guys post, stating which army i am with.

This post has been edited by CobraHumvee: 19 Nov 2009, 6:37


--------------------
Signatures are overrated :)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Pickysaurus
post 19 Nov 2009, 14:17
Post #47


Officer of the European Continental Army
Group Icon

Group: Members
Posts: 2346
Joined: 7 June 2009
From: England, Great Britain
Member No.: 71
Counter Intelligence Agent at Geek Squad UK



Those bars are signs of taking part in the ROTR Roleplay that is run periodically - unfortunately the current one has kinda fizzled out.


--------------------


Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Shiro
post 19 Nov 2009, 16:19
Post #48


Gamer Girl
Group Icon

Group: Legend
Posts: 3717
Joined: 19 June 2009
From: Disboard
Member No.: 182
ROTR PR Assistant and Friendly Freelancer



Just as all 4 before. I cannot help with that much, since I cannot force everyone to post just for the sake of it. If no one is interested, yeah...
@Scene: looks nice indeed.


--------------------
Joy~
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
CobraHumvee
post 25 Nov 2009, 4:52
Post #49



Group Icon

Group: Dev. Team
Posts: 108
Joined: 26 October 2009
From: United States
Member No.: 507



Here it is my second mission just in time for Thanksgiving,America versus China with Intro Scene.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2Z584H8S
Here is the briefing for the mission. After defeating the Russians and preventing a chemical war, some of our operatives located a chinese mining facility. We lost contact a short time later and sent in the airforce to destroy the facility. We soon learned the chinese were ready with their AA flak cannons. Your team is being inserted by boat and your objective is to destroy the flak cannons to clear the way for air support. Be advised we have been picking chatter on the radios that is not chinese, may be linked to another faction.
[attachment=153:sshot009.jpg][attachment=154:sshot011.jpg]
One note about the mission, dont try and rush through it or you will lose. Use some strategy with the units provided.


--------------------
Signatures are overrated :)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Pickysaurus
post 25 Nov 2009, 5:27
Post #50


Officer of the European Continental Army
Group Icon

Group: Members
Posts: 2346
Joined: 7 June 2009
From: England, Great Britain
Member No.: 71
Counter Intelligence Agent at Geek Squad UK



The Chinese re-enforcements arrive weather I capture the airfield or not D:


--------------------


Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

7 Pages V  < 1 2 3 4 > » 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 17 August 2017 - 4:43