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SpiralSpectre
post 28 Feb 2013, 7:58
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Okay so got some questions about the wiki. Could use some opinions/directions on these,

Should all the Fortification add-ons be on the same page like this or do they look too crowded and some of them need separate pages?
Fortification

Does the Troop Crawler page need an overhaul after the last patch or is it too early for it?
Troop Crawler

Is it okay to update pages based on the info in this thread?
http://forums.swr-productions.com/index.php?showtopic=4439

What would be a suitable name for the category of primary resource gatherers like Osprey, secondary gatherers like Hackers or resource gatherers in general?
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post 28 Feb 2013, 8:13
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Fortification upgrades should be on the same page as the Fortification itself IMO. Feel free to update the TC page as well. As for the third question, you can do so but make sure that the information is only taken from statements that sound certain and definitive.
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post 28 Feb 2013, 9:26
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Thanks. On a related topic - should the Russian Component Tower add-ons be on the same page as well or should they be on different pages?
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post 28 Feb 2013, 9:43
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Yes. Generally speaking, I'd like to see units/structures that only truly become distinct and fully-functional when upgraded on the same page.
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post 1 Mar 2013, 2:56
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I wouldn't put predictions on the wikia... the wikia is kind of like an information portal...
but i guess it might be okay if you make an article about everyone's predictions and named it something like "Rise of the Reds 2.0: fan predictions" or something like that.

For the fortifications... maybe we could make an article that links all the upgrade pages... like maybe
VARIATIONS
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The ECA Fortifications can be upgraded into many variations. These include:
The Medic Outpost (which is a link, that links another article about the medical outpost)
etc

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post 1 Mar 2013, 6:39
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QUOTE (InsurgentCell @ 1 Mar 2013, 7:56) *
I wouldn't put predictions on the wikia... the wikia is kind of like an information portal...
but i guess it might be okay if you make an article about everyone's predictions and named it something like "Rise of the Reds 2.0: fan predictions" or something like that.

Naturally I was talking about updating based on what MARS and other team members said on that thread, not based on all the amusing predictions made there.
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post 1 Mar 2013, 17:36
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The C&C RA3 Paradox mod has a very well-developed wiki. You could probably get inspired by their design. They use a rather clever system to describe the relationships between the factions: the ROTR wiki needs something similar IMHO.


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post 1 Mar 2013, 17:52
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Fine with me, although it'd be nowhere near as elaborate as on Paradox:

USA relations:
ECA - Friendly
Russia - Hostile -> At War
China - Allied (The PPA may have failed, but factually, China is the closest thing to America's long-standing military ally, as stated by Thorn)
GLA - Hostile

ECA relations:
USA - Neutral (The Americans may want to normalise their relations with the ECA but the Euros still hold a few grudges)
Russia - At War
China - Friendly (They have to be friendly because they still have to repay their debts)
GLA - Hostile

Russia relations:
USA - Neutral -> At War (Russia didn't really pursue an active rivalry with the United States beyond pragmatic interests in Africa)
ECA - At War
China - Hostile (Ethnic tensions in the Far-East district)
GLA - Hostile

China relations:
USA - Allied
ECA - Neutral (No longer friendly since the ECA asked the PLA to withdraw from Europe. It's noteworthy that China hasn't made any real statements in favour of Europe at any point)
Russia - Hostile (Relationships permanently damaged due to Suvorov's policies)
GLA - Hostile

GLA relations:
USA - Hostile
ECA - Hostile
Russia - Hostile
China - Hostile
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post 1 Mar 2013, 20:07
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QUOTE (MARS @ 1 Mar 2013, 17:52) *
GLA relations:
USA - Hostile
ECA - Hostile
Russia - Hostile
China - Hostile


Poor GLA; they're like the little kid in school who nobody liked yet were hiding great power.

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post 1 Mar 2013, 20:26
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QUOTE (Joakim @ 1 Mar 2013, 22:36) *
The C&C RA3 Paradox mod has a very well-developed wiki. You could probably get inspired by their design. They use a rather clever system to describe the relationships between the factions: the ROTR wiki needs something similar IMHO.

Making something like the Paradox mod wiki would be awesome but right now the ROTR wiki needs to focus on the basics. I've already said this before and to repeat myself but it's all going to a dead end unless some members help out by writing the usage, counters, pros, cons etc of the units. A lot of the pages need these basic stuff added.
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Poor GLA; they're like the little kid in school who nobody liked yet were hiding great power.

More like the kid who was a dick and went around causing everyone trouble and now they all hate him. mindfuck.gif

BTW is it okay to add the Generals pages to the Lore category?

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post 2 Mar 2013, 4:49
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QUOTE (SpiralSpectre @ 1 Mar 2013, 14:26) *
Making something like the Paradox mod wiki would be awesome but right now the ROTR wiki needs to focus on the basics. I've already said this before and to repeat myself but it's all going to a dead end unless some members help out by writing the usage, counters, pros, cons etc of the units. A lot of the pages need these basic stuff added.


Well, I'm not always sure of myself when it comes to tactics and stuff, but I guess I can try.


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post 6 Mar 2013, 19:18
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Anyone knows if this guy is correct or not?

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Excuse me, but unitbox says it has 20-mm minigun... Is that a mistake (because this Hind seem to have YakB .50-cal minigun) or that's supposed to be?


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post 6 Mar 2013, 19:24
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I'd say change it to a '12.7mm gatling gun'. That's the closest thing the Hind has in RL. Also, as a general rule, avoid the term 'minigun'. That isn't actually a catch-all term, but a very specific model of a US-made gatling cannon that fires 7.62mm rounds. Spell it out as 'gatling' for all non-Chinese weapons of this type and 'Gattling' for the Chinese themselves.
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BTW what to do with this page now that the Railgun Kodiak is obsolete according to that thread? Should it be totally deleted?

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post 6 Mar 2013, 21:37
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QUOTE (SpiralSpectre @ 6 Mar 2013, 21:27) *
BTW what to do with this page now that the Railgun Kodiak is obsolete according to that thread? Should it be totally deleted?

T-80R_Kodiak


I don't think it should. In the Generals and ZH wiki, concepts and stuff liek dat weren't deleted.


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post 6 Mar 2013, 21:42
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Put it in a new category called 'scrapped content' or something for the sake of continuity.
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post 6 Mar 2013, 22:51
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This seems outdated http://wiki.falloutstudios.org/wiki/Rise_of_the_Reds

Shockwave has its own manual and that's been very helpful.
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post 7 Mar 2013, 0:52
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As stated we no longer support that wikipedia as we have moved away from Fallout Studios eons ago. We will be making our new wiki sometime this year, now dubbed "The Vault". The Vault will provide our fans with an official-run wiki to go to, although we already have a fan-made one that is awesome I8.gif and will do so until we start up our own to create mentioned manuals and so on.


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post 7 Mar 2013, 2:12
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So is it still worth making pic's for the Wiki then?


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post 7 Mar 2013, 6:38
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QUOTE (Comr4de @ 7 Mar 2013, 0:52) *
As stated we no longer support that wikipedia as we have moved away from Fallout Studios eons ago. We will be making our new wiki sometime this year, now dubbed "The Vault". The Vault will provide our fans with an official-run wiki to go to, although we already have a fan-made one that is awesome I8.gif and will do so until we start up our own to create mentioned manuals and so on.


I've actually discussed this with The_Hunter at some point. Once the fan-wiki is complete and up to quality standards, we'll simply declare it the official one. No point in investing even more precious time on making yet ANOTHER wiki from scratch when we already have dedicated people working on a suitable replacement.
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post 7 Mar 2013, 16:05
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QUOTE (MARS @ 7 Mar 2013, 12:38) *
I've actually discussed this with The_Hunter at some point. Once the fan-wiki is complete and up to quality standards, we'll simply declare it the official one. No point in investing even more precious time on making yet ANOTHER wiki from scratch when we already have dedicated people working on a suitable replacement.

at least can it be moved to our own domain? because wikia sux. D:

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post 7 Mar 2013, 22:54
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I dont know if we should port the wikia... it already has a LOT of articles on it. If someone's willing to do it, no one is stopping them though

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post 7 Mar 2013, 23:58
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(No longer friendly since the ECA asked the PLA to withdraw from Europe. It's noteworthy that China hasn't made any real statements in favour of Europe at any point)


Didn't the Tsing Shi Tao state that he supports their choice of using neutron weaponry?


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post 8 Mar 2013, 6:22
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How does the personal opinion of a retired PLA General equal the official opinion of the Party government?
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I thought that they didn't censor it, which is more or less taciturn agreement.

Could be wrong though.


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