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Wiki related questions |
7 Apr 2013, 10:15
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#101
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Group: Members Posts: 1080 Joined: 24 December 2011 Member No.: 8905 Loves guessing games |
Nothing surprising in Kodiak being the heaviest tank out there. ROTR Russia is based more on RA logic instead of RL logic. In RA games Soviets always got the heavier tanks opposing the fact that they had lighter tanks compared to Western counterparts.
Maybe it was to "anchor" the feelings of RL WW2 in a wacky Cold War gone WW3 scenario by giving the "bad guys" the heavier tanks the same way the "bad guys" in RL WW2 had the heavier tanks. But that's a different topic. |
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7 Apr 2013, 11:00
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#102
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Guardsman Group: Members Posts: 2077 Joined: 22 October 2012 From: Terra Member No.: 9379 Armageddon is here.............. |
Actually not all of that is true, in the post-war crisis and RA 3, the Allies got the best MBT in the game but still only the Soviet can build that which is known as Apocalypse and that isn't related to the MBT topic.
By all means this is RA Russia and not RL Russia, obviously. If it was real life Russia then gameplay wise it would be way too simillar to China and that won't be good. What I meant is in the lore, the Kodiak isn't the heaviest MBT and that wouldn't be oppossed to RL. The Paladin is much heavier while the other tanks are either relics of coldwar and WW2 era or have been remade into doing something else other than fighting tanks. Common? A 90mm cannon for an MBT? The crusader is clearly too light to be treated as a standard western MBT, and it isn't the only tank that represent the western arsenal. It's clearly mean that the Crusader wasn't made to go toe to toe with modern Russian tanks, but to fight those god damn GLA's WW2 relics. The Leopard is downgraded to be a medium tank, that's ironic but while it's lack damage and armor it have become a multirole tank and that is very well done. Maybe the Challenger will be heavier than Kodiak, but that will be for the future. This post has been edited by X1Destroy: 7 Apr 2013, 11:11 -------------------- We Die Standing.
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7 Apr 2013, 11:57
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#103
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Group: Members Posts: 1080 Joined: 24 December 2011 Member No.: 8905 Loves guessing games |
The Fire Support gen getting the heaviest MBT in the game? *shrugs*
Meh time will tell, Chally ain't coming anytime soon. Anyway went ahead and gave these two a shot. Crusader Battlemaster Any feedback is greatly appreciated. |
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7 Apr 2013, 12:48
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Guardsman Group: Members Posts: 2077 Joined: 22 October 2012 From: Terra Member No.: 9379 Armageddon is here.............. |
I think that's pretty perfect, at least to me.
This post has been edited by X1Destroy: 7 Apr 2013, 12:49 -------------------- We Die Standing.
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7 Apr 2013, 14:12
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#105
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Comrade Bear Group: Dev. Team Posts: 954 Joined: 3 February 2013 Member No.: 9722 Projects: Deep Impact |
Actually not all of that is true, in the post-war crisis and RA 3, the Allies got the best MBT in the game but still only the Soviet can build that which is known as Apocalypse and that isn't related to the MBT topic. By all means this is RA Russia and not RL Russia, obviously. If it was real life Russia then gameplay wise it would be way too simillar to China and that won't be good. What I meant is in the lore, the Kodiak isn't the heaviest MBT and that wouldn't be oppossed to RL. The Paladin is much heavier while the other tanks are either relics of coldwar and WW2 era or have been remade into doing something else other than fighting tanks. Common? A 90mm cannon for an MBT? The crusader is clearly too light to be treated as a standard western MBT, and it isn't the only tank that represent the western arsenal. It's clearly mean that the Crusader wasn't made to go toe to toe with modern Russian tanks, but to fight those god damn GLA's WW2 relics. The Leopard is downgraded to be a medium tank, that's ironic but while it's lack damage and armor it have become a multirole tank and that is very well done. Maybe the Challenger will be heavier than Kodiak, but that will be for the future. Well, as a Red Alert 3 player (sometimes) I have to tell you that the Allies have a 90mm cannon on their MBT compared to the Hammer Tank's 85mm cannon. This makes them the strongest in firepower, but Hammer Tank still beats them due to armor. I don't think Challenger will be heavier than Kodiak anyways. -------------------- Your feeling of helplessness is your best friend, savage.
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7 Apr 2013, 14:33
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Guardsman Group: Members Posts: 2077 Joined: 22 October 2012 From: Terra Member No.: 9379 Armageddon is here.............. |
QUOTE Well, as a Red Alert 3 player (sometimes) I have to tell you that the Allies have a 90mm cannon on their MBT compared to the Hammer Tank's 85mm cannon. This makes them the strongest in firepower, but Hammer Tank still beats them due to armor. And that advantage is fully nulified by the Guardian Tank's laser target designator. I tried to put 3 Guardian Tanks against 3 Hammer Tanks and The Guardian Tanks effectively won. The armor of the Hammer Tanks was reduced by half, after all. This post has been edited by X1Destroy: 7 Apr 2013, 14:34 -------------------- We Die Standing.
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7 Apr 2013, 14:36
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Comrade Bear Group: Dev. Team Posts: 954 Joined: 3 February 2013 Member No.: 9722 Projects: Deep Impact |
And that advantage is fully nulified by the Guardian Tank's laser target designator. I tried to put 3 Guardian Tanks against 3 Hammer Tanks and The Guardian Tanks effectively won. The armor of the Hammer Tanks was reduced by half, after all. You're forgetting the leach beam. 1 tank is almost destroyed, so you get Guardian cannon. Double firepower. Well, this is getting a little bit off topic though. -------------------- Your feeling of helplessness is your best friend, savage.
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7 Apr 2013, 20:44
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#108
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Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 20 December 2012 From: My mother's womb Member No.: 9540 |
The Fire Support gen getting the heaviest MBT in the game? *shrugs* Meh time will tell, Chally ain't coming anytime soon. Anyway went ahead and gave these two a shot. Crusader Battlemaster Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Personally I think that looks brilliant. Maybe add some quotes as well? I like that there's an in-game picture of the unit, the render and the upgrade panel, IMO every unit should have a page like this. -------------------- |
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8 Apr 2013, 0:18
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#109
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Dangerous Eukaryote Group: Members Posts: 868 Joined: 6 June 2012 From: CANADA :D Member No.: 9173 More awesome than an imploding star and a burning car combined |
It looks great! I like the layout of Screenshot first, then render for the stat table, then ingame unit box for upgrades and such. But I think the quotes are a bit messed up though. -------------------- |
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8 Apr 2013, 0:49
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Comrade Bear Group: Dev. Team Posts: 954 Joined: 3 February 2013 Member No.: 9722 Projects: Deep Impact |
Does Battlemaster still have 90mm cannon?
So how does Crusader 75mm cannon win vs Battlemaster? -------------------- Your feeling of helplessness is your best friend, savage.
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8 Apr 2013, 1:51
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Orcinius Genocidalus Group: Members Posts: 2428 Joined: 11 July 2012 From: North Vancouver Member No.: 9223 No, you move. |
Muzzle Velocity and accuracy.
QUOTE You're forgetting the leach beam. 1 tank is almost destroyed, so you get Guardian cannon. Double firepower. Well, this is getting a little bit off topic though. Price advantage, in battles, you'll have more guardians than they have hammers. This post has been edited by Serialkillerwhale: 8 Apr 2013, 1:51 -------------------- |
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8 Apr 2013, 1:55
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Dangerous Eukaryote Group: Members Posts: 868 Joined: 6 June 2012 From: CANADA :D Member No.: 9173 More awesome than an imploding star and a burning car combined |
Does Battlemaster still have 90mm cannon? So how does Crusader 75mm cannon win vs Battlemaster? I don't know... I don't know where he got that info. I'm pretty sure it caries a 90 or 105mm gun at least -------------------- |
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8 Apr 2013, 2:17
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Orcinius Genocidalus Group: Members Posts: 2428 Joined: 11 July 2012 From: North Vancouver Member No.: 9223 No, you move. |
It's actually said to be a 75mm smoothbore cannon on the wiki.
Despite this, the original crusader had a 120mm. Either the new model makes no sense or we should change it. This post has been edited by Serialkillerwhale: 8 Apr 2013, 2:20 -------------------- |
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8 Apr 2013, 5:26
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#114
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Group: Project Leader Posts: 5870 Joined: 2 June 2009 Member No.: 10 |
These in-universe vehicle specs were written several years ago. I was never particularly happy with them either but I also have a policy of not zig-zagging between technical story details -unless- I can present it as an overhauled model. If we were to update the Crusader or Battlemaster again, I would totally retcon those guns for more reasonable calibres that were installed as part of an in-story upgrade package but that's unlikely to happen.
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8 Apr 2013, 5:58
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#115
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Group: Members Posts: 1080 Joined: 24 December 2011 Member No.: 8905 Loves guessing games |
It looks great! I like the layout of Screenshot first, then render for the stat table, then ingame unit box for upgrades and such. But I think the quotes are a bit messed up though. I didn't include those quotes. And yeah they do look a bit messed up. Anyways gave Leopard and Scorpion a shot. Dunno what to try next. Tanks are usually my comfort zone. |
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8 Apr 2013, 6:30
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Orcinius Genocidalus Group: Members Posts: 2428 Joined: 11 July 2012 From: North Vancouver Member No.: 9223 No, you move. |
Speaking of the Crusader model, you guys mind moving the barrel a bit lower on the turret?
Right now it's too high up to be realistic and such. Kinda looks funny too. -------------------- |
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11 Apr 2013, 17:20
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Group: Members Posts: 80 Joined: 5 February 2013 Member No.: 9740 |
Does anyone know who made this page? http://wiki.falloutstudios.org/wiki/Manual:Rise_of_the_Reds
The info there is complete but several releases old. But they have all the icons and special abilities I still miss on the wikia, so maybe you could get some text passages from there. -------------------- DEMAND combat cycle nukeneers!
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11 Apr 2013, 17:29
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Group: Project Leader Posts: 5870 Joined: 2 June 2009 Member No.: 10 |
We do not take text passages from there. These information are obsolete and we are no longer affiliated with their community in any way. Anyone who actually wrote stuff for that wiki in the past is of course free to use any written text that he has the copyrights on but we do -not- wish for any content similarity between our new wiki and this one. Official order from The Hunter, end of story.
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11 Apr 2013, 18:25
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Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 20 December 2012 From: My mother's womb Member No.: 9540 |
We do not take text passages from there. These information are obsolete and we are no longer affiliated with their community in any way. Anyone who actually wrote stuff for that wiki in the past is of course free to use any written text that he has the copyrights on but we do -not- wish for any content similarity between our new wiki and this one. Official order from The Hunter, end of story. The Hunter hunts the hunted in the name of the ones hunted by the hunted. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No but seriously this new wiki seems very much better than the one for Fallout studios. I hope to read some awesome articles in the future. Unfortunentaly I can't contribute because I am terrible at writing wiki pages. -------------------- |
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11 Apr 2013, 19:40
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Group: Members Posts: 1080 Joined: 24 December 2011 Member No.: 8905 Loves guessing games |
No but seriously this new wiki seems very much better than the one for Fallout studios. I hope to read some awesome articles in the future. Unfortunentaly I can't contribute because I am terrible at writing wiki pages. Would be really nice if you give it a shot anyway. Your English sounds pretty good. And every contribution helps. |
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12 Apr 2013, 1:49
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Comrade Bear Group: Dev. Team Posts: 954 Joined: 3 February 2013 Member No.: 9722 Projects: Deep Impact |
I'm generally there to tidy up the place (little nicer place for people with OCD already).
And I just realized something - the Nukeneer mortar is probably based on the Davy Crocket recoilless rifle.. Hehehe... -------------------- Your feeling of helplessness is your best friend, savage.
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25 Apr 2013, 10:05
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Group: Members Posts: 1080 Joined: 24 December 2011 Member No.: 8905 Loves guessing games |
Need some feedback here, is there a problem if the unitbox contains very detailed info like this page?
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25 Apr 2013, 13:20
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Group: Project Leader Posts: 5870 Joined: 2 June 2009 Member No.: 10 |
Looks all right. If you want to be specific about the equipment, you could add in the infobox that their weapon is a Type 56 (Chinese version of the Soviet SKS). Also, we will eventually provide a ROTR-canon explanation for the anachronistic appearance of the Chinese infantry units. I've actually had a rather helpful brainwave the other day, but it's something that'll be explained in a much later update. Given the standards of the setting, it should actually hold up quite brilliantly.
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25 Apr 2013, 15:26
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Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 20 December 2012 From: My mother's womb Member No.: 9540 |
Looks all right. If you want to be specific about the equipment, you could add in the infobox that their weapon is a Type 56 (Chinese version of the Soviet SKS). Also, we will eventually provide a ROTR-canon explanation for the anachronistic appearance of the Chinese infantry units. I've actually had a rather helpful brainwave the other day, but it's something that'll be explained in a much later update. Given the standards of the setting, it should actually hold up quite brilliantly. Will you also explain why they still use Type 59 tanks and flamethrowers? -------------------- |
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25 Apr 2013, 15:41
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Group: Project Leader Posts: 5870 Joined: 2 June 2009 Member No.: 10 |
Will you also explain why they still use Type 59 tanks and flamethrowers? Simple; Battlemasters are Type-59s that have been updated yet again because despite all the modernisations that are going on right now, the Type-59 is still the most common tank in the Chinese arsenal. |
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