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We Defend China's Airspace, First Jet Landed On Chinese Aircraft Carrier
Nemanja
post 25 Nov 2012, 13:10
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China landed their J-15 naval fighter at their sole Chinese Aircraft Carrier Lianing.
Since its acquisition from Ukraine this carrier has been severely modernized.
Aircraft from the video is Chinese made further development of Su-33 prototype
acquired also from Ukraine in early 2000s,it is intended to become main Chinese naval fighter by 2016.
This aircraft is not copy of Su-33 not to be confused (China already made licensed copy of Su-27 called J-11),
rather plane for itself,containing newest Chinese weaponry and equipment.
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post 28 Nov 2012, 16:49
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Drones on a carrier. Here's hoping it won't require a full-sized super-carrier to be sunk by one of those new Dongfeng missiles for someone to consider the idea of a smaller, perhaps submersible UCAV carrier vessel. That'd be an interesting development.
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QUOTE (MARS @ 28 Nov 2012, 23:49) *
Drones on a carrier. Here's hoping it won't require a full-sized super-carrier to be sunk by one of those new Dongfeng missiles for someone to consider the idea of a smaller, perhaps submersible UCAV carrier vessel. That'd be an interesting development.


Before we say that Dongfengs are scary, let's examine first what the huck a Dongfeng missile is.

It's an ICBM, right? Intercontinental BALLISTIC Missile

Which means you just launch it on the general direction of the target and let the nuke do its thingie.

Now, in an ASBM, there are several factors which makes the weapon useless;

1. Accuracy. CEP of DF-21s are supposed to be 300m, nearly same as the SS-18s the Soviets used to deploy (220m at best). So, estimating that the length of Nimitz or George Washington is 320m, and moving at a speed of 30 knots, unless the weapon would be nuke-tipped (and unless the Chinese wants to start a fucking nuclear war), then the weapon would most certainly miss by ~50 meters minimum.

2. Guidance. Unlike a city, airbase or nuclear silos, carriers move. See above for elaboration.

3. Deterrence. How would the U.S. know if a ballistic missile launch is a nuke headed to a city, a nuke headed to a ship/ group of ships, or a conventionally-armed ASBM?

4. Interception. Standard missiles, AEGIS-equipped ships and THAAD were specifically tasked to destroy a ballistic projectile.


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- simeon5541   We Defend China's Airspace   25 Nov 2012, 13:10
- - __CrUsHeR   The Liaoning is the first of a fleet of aircraft c...   25 Nov 2012, 14:21
- - MARS   The thing that's way more interesting about th...   25 Nov 2012, 14:56
|- - SorataZ   QUOTE (MARS @ 25 Nov 2012, 14:56) The thi...   26 Nov 2012, 15:33
- - __CrUsHeR   In fact, Liaoning was doomed to abandonment at som...   25 Nov 2012, 16:27
|- - simeon5541   QUOTE (__CrUsHeR @ 25 Nov 2012, 16:27) In...   25 Nov 2012, 20:19
- - __CrUsHeR   Actually the J-15 is based on the J-11 (Su-27), Ch...   25 Nov 2012, 23:06
- - __CrUsHeR   Returning to this discussion... In the next days t...   28 Nov 2012, 16:03
- - MARS   Drones on a carrier. Here's hoping it won...   28 Nov 2012, 16:49
|- - Knossos   QUOTE (MARS @ 28 Nov 2012, 23:49) Drones ...   26 Jul 2013, 14:06
- - __CrUsHeR   The Dongfeng really is a threat to U.S. aircraft c...   28 Nov 2012, 19:02
- - MARS   One undeniable advantage of a smaller UCAV carrier...   28 Nov 2012, 19:43
- - DerKrieger   QUOTE (__CrUsHeR @ 28 Nov 2012, 13:02) Th...   28 Nov 2012, 21:23
- - MARS   I totally agree with that. As long as aircraft are...   28 Nov 2012, 21:51
|- - flyingpancake   QUOTE (MARS @ 28 Nov 2012, 21:51) I total...   24 Feb 2013, 1:00
|- - GDIZOCOM   QUOTE (flyingpancake @ 24 Feb 2013, 2:00)...   24 Feb 2013, 12:34
- - __CrUsHeR   The tendency of modern warfare is to reduce the si...   28 Nov 2012, 22:51
- - Serialkillerwhale   I'm thinking the Helicarrier wasn't far of...   8 Mar 2013, 9:35
|- - __CrUsHeR   QUOTE (Serialkillerwhale @ 8 Mar 2013, 5...   8 Mar 2013, 11:46
- - Serialkillerwhale   This isn't aircraft carrier style long-term mi...   8 Mar 2013, 13:18
|- - Warpath   QUOTE (Serialkillerwhale @ 8 Mar 2013, 13...   9 Mar 2013, 12:57
- - CoLT   Actually something like that could exist since air...   11 Mar 2013, 13:56
- - blgmgl   I guess Chinese are using this ex-Soviet aircraft ...   25 Jul 2013, 16:43
- - D' WRTHBRNGR   The learning curve will be steep for them, it seem...   26 Jul 2013, 10:36


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