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Can't Survive against the Evil Dr.Thrax on Hard challenge, same as above
RodentDung
post 10 Oct 2015, 22:36
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I set the game to hard and have struggled like a raccoon making a grab for someone's ice cream cone but can't survive the dead Dr. Thrax vehicle rush that he seems to have a fetish for. He sends in a horde of annoying crap just as he gets all those missile and rocket buggies that can light up my base from long distance. I've tried as both Ironside and the blond Alexander but always got wiped at the same point.

As Ironside, I tried going both tanks in a few tries and airforce in a few tries and both tanks & aircraft. All were equal disasters. I tried watching youtube videos of people going against Thrax but the sissies always set it to medium so Thrax doesn't attack them. The problem with Ironside is his tanks are too weak to destroy Thrax's vehicles. I've had tanks driving around in circles to avoid the toxin and fire constantly at the toxin trucks but can't destroy them but Iron's tanks are killed in one shot by both missiles and rockets. I tried the Mammoth tanks in one game they were destroyed instantly without killing a single enemy so that was an epic waste of money and GP. With the regular Iron tanks, I put on either a repair drone or one of the anti-tank boomerang drones on each and reserved my tanks behind the turrets to rush out against the missile trucks. Problem is, after my tanks start their attack run out from my hard-pressed turret line, they immediately are hosed down with toxins and the missiles destroy them instantly so my tanks fail to even destroy a single enemy vehicle. At least my bombers were trading one bomber for one vehicle, though that too is lame considering I'm not flying into AA defended territory cause the SAM sites are taken out earlier by the A10 command center strikes.

As Alexander I tried using the previously almighty Aurora Alpha which helped a fair bit but it's so badly nerfed in Shockwave that they get shot down so often and use up all my money and they are far too weak to attack enemy bases in nerfed form. Alex has decent armored vehicles and infantry but they would all be massacred before getting to the Thrax missile and rocket buggies. The Aurora only barely equals Iron's turrets for defense but are only a temporary relief before Thrax puts in his main attack which I've never once stopped cause he spews toxins and missiles all over the airport once my turrets are blown up the suicide bomber trucks. Also the oil derrick gets suicide bombed early too despite have turrets placed around it for protection.

As both Iron & Alex, I reserved 3 GP for the A10s to be able to hit the Scud and to take out the SAM sites on my side of the river cause they make a turkey shoot of the Auroras. I don't see any other way to damage the deadly Scud site. Auroras are guaranteed suicidal to send anywhere over the river so a strike on the Scud site would cost 4 Auroras at a price of $10,000 and leave my base undefended for about 5 minutes. I can't use infantry to defend cause the toxin kills them all instantly even with the ineffective chem suit upgrade.
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Is there any way to beat the evil Thrax with Alex or Iron I wonder?? I want to stay on Hard level because I was able to beat the tank freak and the camouflaged terrorist on that level, only the deadly Thrax is unbeatable (so far).


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- RodentDung   Can't Survive against the Evil Dr.Thrax on Hard challenge   10 Oct 2015, 22:36
- - Kommandant Karisse   Townes makes pretty much every general a breeze (o...   11 Oct 2015, 14:24
- - mr_Skittles   dont build too far forward at the start and dont g...   11 Oct 2015, 16:29
- - Lobo Solitario   The start is a scramble, but it's usually a ca...   11 Oct 2015, 19:40
- - RodentDung   Thank you for the replies. What are UAV strikes? ...   12 Oct 2015, 2:21
- - KingKickAss   I have been playing through challenge on hard with...   12 Oct 2015, 5:15
|- - RodentDung   I tried both howitzers and commanches but both wer...   12 Oct 2015, 6:20
- - RodentDung   I lost another 5 or 6 times today. I noticed the P...   12 Oct 2015, 11:19
- - RodentDung   I won the fight. I lost my airfield early but with...   12 Oct 2015, 13:59
- - Kommandant Karisse   Late, but the UAV Strike is one of General Townes...   12 Oct 2015, 14:13
- - RodentDung   Okay. I've never played as the laser Townes ge...   12 Oct 2015, 18:08
- - (USA)Bruce   Hey RodentDung I can help coach you for this and a...   12 Oct 2015, 18:15
|- - (USA)Bruce   QUOTE ((USA)Bruce @ 12 Oct 2015, 20...   12 Oct 2015, 20:30
- - RodentDung   Thanks but I got it figured out now. I'm gonna...   12 Oct 2015, 19:30
- - RodentDung   Okay so the Tigress destroyed my base with the ear...   12 Oct 2015, 19:55
- - RodentDung   I doubt I could ever beat the Tigress in a fight u...   12 Oct 2015, 23:48
|- - RodentDung   QUOTE (RodentDung @ 12 Oct 2015, 23:48) I...   12 Oct 2015, 23:50
- - RodentDung   Sorry my post got really screwed up cause it didn...   12 Oct 2015, 23:51
- - Lobo Solitario   Sorry, afraid it's been a long time since I la...   13 Oct 2015, 16:04
- - RodentDung   Lobo, that's good advice. I can see what you m...   13 Oct 2015, 17:40
- - RodentDung   Oh man this is a mess. I managed to start up a 2nd...   13 Oct 2015, 19:19
- - RodentDung   And one thing that helped a bit was putting a fire...   14 Oct 2015, 2:20
- - RodentDung   I don't know how to survive against Leung. The...   14 Oct 2015, 9:33
- - KingKickAss   Leang gives you a little bit of prep time before h...   14 Oct 2015, 18:22
- - RodentDung   Yeah I can see what you mean about the AA. I think...   14 Oct 2015, 18:50
- - RodentDung   Okay I'm doing good now. Partways into a game ...   14 Oct 2015, 20:03
- - KingKickAss   Alright, I'll give you my step by step strateg...   14 Oct 2015, 21:34
- - RodentDung   In my game she did not get off even one earthshake...   15 Oct 2015, 1:04
- - RodentDung   I won the fight. I wiped out Leang using particles...   15 Oct 2015, 18:03
- - RodentDung   Next time I fight Leang I'm gonna do a ground ...   15 Oct 2015, 18:28
- - RodentDung   Great tragedy!! My game crashes every time...   16 Oct 2015, 3:34
- - Kommandant Karisse   Are you making sure there are no Supply Drop Zone ...   16 Oct 2015, 20:28
- - RodentDung   Yeah I found that out in a google search so I relo...   17 Oct 2015, 2:05
- - RodentDung   Golly. I was cruising through the challenges and t...   17 Oct 2015, 9:53
- - Shockfan42   For Armor Challenge vs. Thrax, use Hotwizers for c...   18 Oct 2015, 16:14
- - RodentDung   I won all fights except Ironside (Westermoreland) ...   18 Oct 2015, 23:15
- - RodentDung   I actually beat the evil Dr.Thrax using the Glassw...   23 Oct 2015, 3:30
- - KingKickAss   I beat Thrax with Ironside. Build defenses at you...   23 Oct 2015, 17:19
- - RodentDung   Thank you KingKickAss. If you have enough Phalanx...   24 Oct 2015, 1:06
|- - KingKickAss   QUOTE (RodentDung @ 23 Oct 2015, 17:06) T...   26 Oct 2015, 18:08
- - FabulousPug   Hi I just picked up shockwave again and I figured ...   25 Oct 2015, 7:57
- - RodentDung   FabulousPug, your description of Leung sounds like...   25 Oct 2015, 17:12
- - FabulousPug   Hmm perhaps if you got an additional transport or ...   26 Oct 2015, 7:12
- - RodentDung   Yeah that might work. My chopper was shot down ove...   26 Oct 2015, 7:43
- - RodentDung   I tried another 3 times as Ironside vs thrax and l...   26 Oct 2015, 9:04
- - FabulousPug   If I remember correctly I used upgraded mammoths a...   26 Oct 2015, 9:04
- - RodentDung   OKay maybe I will try mammoths again. I only tried...   26 Oct 2015, 17:25
- - FabulousPug   Ok so here's what I did so far: I was defendin...   26 Oct 2015, 18:59
- - RodentDung   Thanks KingKickass and FabulousPug for the good re...   26 Oct 2015, 20:30
- - FabulousPug   Ugh I was soooo close to reaching his palace! ...   27 Oct 2015, 1:01
- - RodentDung   That garrisoned building to the east must have bee...   27 Oct 2015, 2:08
- - FabulousPug   I think it should be possible without burton, usin...   27 Oct 2015, 16:38
- - RodentDung   You are thinking of many tactics which is good. B...   27 Oct 2015, 18:16
- - FabulousPug   About the western oil derrick - he does attack and...   27 Oct 2015, 18:46
- - RodentDung   I've figured out the western pass trigger, Bas...   27 Oct 2015, 19:27
- - RodentDung   I tried a couple more times. I destroy his palace ...   28 Oct 2015, 8:53
- - Sam   QUOTE no need for a radar actually while the ...   28 Oct 2015, 9:29
- - FabulousPug   After many failed attempts I'm on the verge of...   28 Oct 2015, 15:53
- - Shockfan42   Wait or try with Stealth... is the more weak vs. T...   28 Oct 2015, 16:08
- - FabulousPug   Just to add some stuff I failed with. Phalanxes ac...   28 Oct 2015, 16:19
- - FabulousPug   Well, all my mammoth-howitzer spams failed terribl...   28 Oct 2015, 16:21
- - RodentDung   Yeah you can really feel the impotency of Ironside...   28 Oct 2015, 17:22
- - RodentDung   I Just tried going with a War Factory and all-out ...   28 Oct 2015, 17:57
- - FabulousPug   This endeavour of ours was, I'm afraid, a comp...   28 Oct 2015, 20:31
- - RodentDung   Yeah pretty much. Do you think the Glassware gener...   28 Oct 2015, 22:56
- - FabulousPug   Kwai certanly is better in almost everything IMO, ...   29 Oct 2015, 0:37
- - FabulousPug   Oh happy day, Dr. Thrax pooped himself before me...   29 Oct 2015, 1:48
- - RodentDung   Golly you became the God of Generals. You did the ...   29 Oct 2015, 4:58
|- - KingKickAss   QUOTE (RodentDung @ 28 Oct 2015, 19:58) I...   30 Oct 2015, 17:45
- - Sam   If you want to play ShockWave online, Go Here. Yo...   29 Oct 2015, 11:28
- - FabulousPug   Ok the rocker-shooting plane is a general's po...   29 Oct 2015, 13:56
- - FabulousPug   Again I'm on my phone and can't edit my pr...   30 Oct 2015, 2:28
|- - Sam   QUOTE (FabulousPug @ 30 Oct 2015, 6:58) S...   30 Oct 2015, 14:35
- - RodentDung   Sam: thank you for the links and info FabPug: Ver...   30 Oct 2015, 6:32
- - FabulousPug   Not sure but I wouldn't say that the AI Thrax ...   30 Oct 2015, 7:22
- - RodentDung   I tried again but lost again. I made more turrets ...   30 Oct 2015, 8:43
- - RodentDung   And another try. This time I made 4 bombers and I ...   30 Oct 2015, 9:05
- - FabulousPug   Well try with just 1 plane per Scourge, gets them ...   30 Oct 2015, 10:40
- - FabulousPug   Yeah I'm a sucker for Superweapons especially ...   30 Oct 2015, 17:59
- - RodentDung   Gentool is for online Generals? FabPug, don't...   31 Oct 2015, 3:40
- - RodentDung   It is official: I have beaten the evil Dr. Thrax u...   1 Nov 2015, 21:29
- - FabulousPug   Nooooo! As a last act of defiance he seems to ...   2 Nov 2015, 8:55
- - RodentDung   I loaded my last save which was about 1 minute bef...   3 Nov 2015, 1:42
- - FabulousPug   Probably spamming those AA vehicles and taking out...   3 Nov 2015, 16:48
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- - FabulousPug   Still I din't find the time to try the challen...   3 Nov 2015, 19:29
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|- - Lobo Solitario   QUOTE (RodentDung @ 4 Nov 2015, 3:57) I u...   4 Nov 2015, 17:43
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- - RodentDung   No, not bugged. I've noticed too that Granger ...   5 Nov 2015, 5:58
- - FabulousPug   I think the problem is just getting the base up an...   5 Nov 2015, 10:25
- - RodentDung   So you won the fight? I tried it briefly once and ...   5 Nov 2015, 18:57
- - FabulousPug   Yes I won it, mainly because he didn't rebuild...   5 Nov 2015, 20:35
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- - RodentDung   Whew! I've been trying to post here for 2 ...   6 Nov 2015, 19:39
- - RodentDung   I tried fighting the fanatical laser general but h...   6 Nov 2015, 20:15
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