Printable Version of Topic

Click here to view this topic in its original format

SWR Productions Forum _ Rise of the Reds _ ROTR 2.0 Predictions. Suggestions. Questions. etc.

Posted by: foxhoundx7 14 Feb 2013, 8:39

All GLA Units Still Don't Have The Generals Symbols On Them

Most USA & China Units Don't Have The Generals Symbols On Them Yet

Questions. Suggestions. Predictions.

1#Q: Is The Demo Track Exclusive to GLA Terror Cell General?. Because I Don't See The Terror Cell Logo on it

2#Q: The Nuke Cannon is Exclusive to China Special Weapons General? Because The Special Weapons Logo is on it

3#Q: The Mortar Track is for ECA Fire Support General Right? Since The Fire Support Logo Is On It.

4#Q: Is The WASP Hive for USA Air Force General Right?. Because I Don't See The Air Force Logo on it

5#Q: The Banshee ECM Tank is for China Secret Police Right?. Since the Secret Police Logo is on it

6#Q: You Said The Propaganda Airship is for Secret Police General?. Because I Don't See The Secret Police Logo on it

7#Q: Who's Getting The Old Scorpion Tank. is it Bio Command or Terror Cell?.

8#Q: Is The Emperor Overlord Returning?. Because You Said Only Red Army Gets The Regular Overlord. The Emperor Could go to Special Weapons or Secret Police Since His Tactics Propaganda or
Are They Getting Something Else. Something Similar?.

9#Q: How Come The Bradley IFV Gets The Tank Command Logo When it is Upgraded?.

10#Q: Is The Warlord General Getting a Heavy Tank Unit?. Because it Says The Marauder Tank is a Medium Class Tank. Warlord Should get a Tank The Same Size as The Paladin Tank or The Golem Tank?.
Not The Same Size as Overlord Tank. Sentinel Tank. or Basilisk Tank From Shockwave. Since His Tactics Overwhelming Brutality.

11#Q: What About Special Forces Generals. He Should Get a Unit Like Some Heavy APC That has Fire Ports like the Old Humvee. Assault Crawler. or Some Kind of Covert Ops Stealth Vehicle?.

12#Q: Whats Bio Command General Gonna Get?. Is He Getting the Anthrax Gamma Upgrade like his predecessor Dr. Thrax?. Will his Toxin Units be Unique?. Is He Getting The Toxin Rebels like Dr. Thrax?.

13#Q: What About Terror Cell General?. Is He a Mix of Stealth and Demolition General?. Is The Saboteur Retuning. is it Gonna be Exclusive to Him?. What About the Advanced Demo Traps From Juhziz?.
Maybe Because His Tactics Guerrilla Terrorism. So The Saboteur Should Suit Him Well.

14#Q: Zhukovs Getting The Regular Hokum and Orlovs Getting The BlackShark. The Hind and the Hunchback. While Aleksandrs Getting The Havoc and The PAK FA Right?.

15#Q: What Kind of Unit is The Royal Guard General Getting?.

Are Any of These Questions True or False?.

Because Most of these Predictions. Suggestions. Questions. Could Be Accurate?.

PS: Don't Take Any of These Seriously.















Posted by: Massey 14 Feb 2013, 9:16

I see this thread being lock within the day. but i will say.... it will ROCK!!!

Posted by: MARS 14 Feb 2013, 9:48

I don't see a reason to lock this. There's nothing wrong with trying to gather faction details via a process of elimination/verifying available information.

1 - Demo Tracks will be exclusive to Terror Cell
2 - Nuke Cannons will be exclusive to Special Weapons
3 - Mortar Tracks will be exclusive to Fire Support
4 - WASP Hives will be exclusive to Air Force
5 - Banshees will be exclusive to Secret Police
6 - Propaganda Airships will be exclusive to Secret Police
7 - The old Scorpion will be available to Terror Cell
8 - As it stands right now, the Emperor will not make a return as it's basically just a souped-up Overlord which is already exclusive to Red Army
9 - Random design decision, doesn't mean a thing
10 - Warlord will have exclusive access to the Marauder which will eventually be very different from the current version in order to make it more interesting
11 - That's classified at this time
12 - Anthrax Beta is already exclusive to Bio Command. As such, Anthrax Gamma is scrapped entirely. He will of course have unique toxin themed units, but the cripplingly overspecialised Toxin Rebel is not one of them
13 - The Saboteur has been scrapped because most of his abilities now belong to the ECA hero. Functionally, Terror Cell is kind of a blend between Stealth and Demo
14 - Orlov gets the Hind, the Hokum and the Hunchback, Zhukov and Aleksandr get the Havoc in addition to one yet-to-be-disclosed helicopter respectively
15 - Royal Guard gets improved versions of regular ECA defences, additional logistics capabilities and units that are geared towards defensive support

Posted by: Zeke 14 Feb 2013, 9:56

QUOTE (MARS @ 14 Feb 2013, 16:48) *
9 - Random design decision, doesn't mean a thing


IIRC Isn't it because Composite Armor is exclusive to Bradley?

Posted by: MARS 14 Feb 2013, 10:01

So is the Bradley IFV itself though.

Posted by: JamBai 14 Feb 2013, 10:02

QUOTE (MARS @ 14 Feb 2013, 9:48) *
7 - The old Scorpion will be available to Terror Cell


Is there a reason for this and if there is can you reveal it?

Posted by: MARS 14 Feb 2013, 10:08

Mainly the fact that Yusuuf will be designed to favour fast guerilla strikes and raiding with light units. He's also the most staunch backwards thinking bloke in the entire GLA who probably considered it a blasphemy that his fellow leaders are now using an old British Centurion tank.

Posted by: JamBai 14 Feb 2013, 10:23

By the way i recall reading ages ago that General Aleksandr will get some kind of upgrade for his vehicles that is suppose to help against infantry, I am not asking what exactly it does or any of it's details all i am asking is if this is an confirmed upgrade or that my memory messing with me?

Posted by: XCABAL 14 Feb 2013, 10:24

QUOTE (MARS @ 14 Feb 2013, 0:48) *
3 - Mortar Tracks will be exclusive to Fire Support


If the mortor track is a Fire Support exclusive does that mean the other two generals will have a replacement or will they be stuck with mine layers?

Posted by: Lobo Solitario 14 Feb 2013, 11:01

QUOTE (MARS @ 14 Feb 2013, 16:48) *
7 - The old Scorpion will be available to Terror Cell


The wheely version or the normal version? Great nostalgia trip, although I do love the new Scorpion.

QUOTE (MARS @ 14 Feb 2013, 16:48) *
13 - Functionally, Terror Cell is kind of a blend between Stealth and Demo


Sounds perfect, poor old Kassad was lacking in the Boom! department smile.gif

QUOTE (MARS @ 14 Feb 2013, 17:08) *
Mainly the fact that Yusuuf will be designed to favour fast guerilla strikes and raiding with light units. He's also the most staunch backwards thinking bloke in the entire GLA who probably considered it a blasphemy that his fellow leaders are now using an old British Centurion tank.


I suppose horse-mounted infantry are out of the question? smile.gif

Posted by: MARS 14 Feb 2013, 11:02

They will also have unique artillery units, albeit in a different design niche. The Mortar Track is unique in that it is available at Tier-1 in addition to Charles' Claymore Howitzer which'll be Tier-2. The other ECA Generals will only have unique niche equivalents at Tier-2.

Posted by: V.Metalic 14 Feb 2013, 11:52

And Claymore?

Posted by: MARS 14 Feb 2013, 11:56

What about it? It's Charles' unique Tier-2 artillery.

Posted by: JamBai 14 Feb 2013, 12:01

I have been wondering about General Aleksandr's railgun tech is it going to be an upgrade that affects some of his tanks or will it only be on his MBTs ?

and sorry if this question has been answered in the past if so then i seem to be very bad at finding it!

Posted by: melaw 14 Feb 2013, 12:21

I guess the generals will be much more unique than in ZH. Hopefully no generals turns out to be worthless. I had that feeling in ZH. Always preferred the plain factions.


Posted by: V.Metalic 14 Feb 2013, 12:31

QUOTE (MARS @ 14 Feb 2013, 11:56) *
What about it? It's Charles' unique Tier-2 artillery.

Tier 2? Unexpected.

Posted by: MARS 14 Feb 2013, 12:55

^ Since the Claymore basically -is- a mobile version of the Howitzer Position (which is a Tier-2 structure itself), it has to be a late game unit as well.

Posted by: Basilisx 14 Feb 2013, 13:29

QUOTE (MARS @ 14 Feb 2013, 11:02) *
They will also have unique artillery units, albeit in a different design niche. The Mortar Track is unique in that it is available at Tier-1 in addition to Charles' Claymore Howitzer which'll be Tier-2. The other ECA Generals will only have unique niche equivalents at Tier-2.



So basically we ECA players have a tier1 artillery as a tier2 unit at the moment ?
The Mortartrack feels a bit underpowered compared to other artilleries. It could be slightly more precise and use harder hitting shells.

Posted by: X1Destroy 14 Feb 2013, 15:03

QUOTE
3 - Mortar Tracks will be exclusive to Fire Support


Let me guess, Mechanized Assault will have a mobile artillery as a replacement then? Something like that panzerweffer of Juhziz in shockwave?

QUOTE
I have been wondering about General Aleksandr's railgun tech is it going to be an upgrade that affects some of his tanks or will it only be on his MBTs ?


Yeah, will it be an upgrade or Experimental Weapons will get Railgun Kodiak at start?

Other questions:

Will the Osprey be the one that will become USA vehicle transporter or will it be another kind of heli?

Will Bradley still get the commanche or replaced by something else?

Will the Hopper tanks become exclusive to Red Army or someone elses?

What will be the gameplay type of Secrect Police?

Since Black napalm will be exclusive to Special Weapons, what about nuclear tank and uranium shells?

Will GP like Armor Battalion is required to build specialized vehicle in 2.0?

How much Infantry units shall Special Forces have?

Will the Golem and Sentinel be available at the sametime?

Will 1 of the Russian generals have something as a replacement for the frogfoot?

Posted by: JamBai 14 Feb 2013, 16:11

QUOTE (X1Destroy @ 14 Feb 2013, 15:03) *
Other questions:

Will the Golem and Sentinel be available at the sametime?


The Golem will be exclusive to General Aleksandr so he won't get the sentinel, The Sentinel will be for Orlov and Zhukov.

Posted by: MARS 14 Feb 2013, 16:30

QUOTE (X1Destroy @ 14 Feb 2013, 15:03) *
Other questions:
1 - Will the Osprey be the one that will become USA vehicle transporter or will it be another kind of heli?
2 - Will Bradley still get the commanche or replaced by something else?
3 - Will the Hopper tanks become exclusive to Red Army or someone elses?
4 - What will be the gameplay type of Secrect Police?
5 - Since Black napalm will be exclusive to Special Weapons, what about nuclear tank and uranium shells?
6 - Will GP like Armor Battalion is required to build specialized vehicle in 2.0?
7 - How much Infantry units shall Special Forces have?
8 - Will the Golem and Sentinel be available at the sametime?
9 - Will 1 of the Russian generals have something as a replacement for the frogfoot?


1 - The Osprey will remain infantry only. The USA's planned vehicle transport heli is going to be entirely different.
2 - He gets the regular Comanche.
3 - Hoppers will be available to all Chinese Generals.
4 - Lots of hacking, ECM, propaganda as well as a number special infantry units and vehicles that can be used somewhat more tactically compared to the others.
5 - Nuclear Tanks, Depleted Uranium Shells and Isotope Stability will remain available to all Chinese Generals as they are necessary global upgrades for the late game (speed + firepower + making sure that your tank blobs don't self-destruct)
6 - There will still be a few 'spend a point to unlock unit X' type General Powers, but we'll make sure that the units they bring are actually worth it. Armored Company is actually one of the unlocks that'll most likely be removed.
7 - According to current plans, a total of six. That includes common units like Burton and Missile Defenders though, so it's a bit of a cryptic information.
8 - No. Golems are exclusive to Aleksandr whereas the Sentinel is available to Orlov and Zhukov.
9 - Not planned at this time.

Also, I'm hereby informing you guys that the Railgun Kodiak is officially obsolete: Aleksandr is actually getting a unique MBT that will later benefit from a railgun upgrade.

Posted by: JamBai 14 Feb 2013, 16:35

QUOTE (MARS @ 14 Feb 2013, 16:30) *
Also, I'm hereby informing you guys that the Railgun Kodiak is officially obsolete: Aleksandr is actually getting a unique MBT that will later benefit from a railgun upgrade.


well this calls for a celebration! since any information on General Aleksandr's Arsenal is just so exciting!

Posted by: melaw 14 Feb 2013, 16:40

I think it would be nice to have more information about current activities in public space.
A few teaser videos that show the generals' uniqueness would be extremely nice and should get attention on ModDB.
Is there even a newsletter for ROTR? I have searched, but could not find one.

Posted by: ubermensche 14 Feb 2013, 16:44

A question that I had in mind since quite a while about 2.0 ECA protocoles.

Will each ECA general get his own protocole?
German mechanized assault will have Manticore.
Fire support will have Pandora
And defensive general will have Venom, whatever it is.

Posted by: dangerman1337 14 Feb 2013, 17:09

QUOTE (MARS @ 14 Feb 2013, 16:30) *
Also, I'm hereby informing you guys that the Railgun Kodiak is officially obsolete: Aleksandr is actually getting a unique MBT that will later benefit from a railgun upgrade.

The Armata/T-99?

EDIT: Also on the topic of Aleksandr's tanks why is he not going to get the Sentinel? Would a Railgun one be too OP tongue.gif?

Posted by: MARS 14 Feb 2013, 17:39

Since the information on the next generation of Russian tanks are quite scarce at this time, we're not going to base it off a RL vehicle. For what it's worth, the fluff might eventually reference the project though.

QUOTE
A question that I had in mind since quite a while about 2.0 ECA protocoles.
Will each ECA general get his own protocole?
German mechanized assault will have Manticore.
Fire support will have Pandora
And defensive general will have Venom, whatever it is.


All three protocols will be available to all three Generals. We want to give you guys options to choose which Protocol suits your playstyle rather than having no-brainer upgrades that don't provide you with an alternative.

Posted by: JamBai 14 Feb 2013, 18:01

So the Railgun Upgrade is only for the Aleksandr's MBTs like the scorpion rocket is only for GLA's MBTs or will the railgun upgrade affect other vehicles to?

oh i just realized this is almost the exact same question i asked on page 1 ...... delete this post if you can/want.

Posted by: Genmotty 14 Feb 2013, 18:33

QUOTE (X1Destroy @ 14 Feb 2013, 14:03) *
What will be the gameplay type of Secret Police?


I hope that Jin retains some of the feel that Fai did, indeed, 'Volunteer Squads' may be a better unit to give Jin than hopper tanks, since when did the Chinese Secret Police need tankettes to do mass battle, eh? It's not like the Chinese are in the middle of a civil war, it would be far better that Jin be seen to be utilising 'volunteers' from all those nations its got a presence in, as well as recruiting 'fanatics from home'.


Posted by: X1Destroy 14 Feb 2013, 19:00

QUOTE (Genmotty @ 14 Feb 2013, 19:33) *
I hope that Jin retains some of the feel that Fai did, indeed, 'Volunteer Squads' may be a better unit to give Jin than hopper tanks, since when did the Chinese Secret Police need tankettes to do mass battle, eh? It's not like the Chinese are in the middle of a civil war, it would be far better that Jin be seen to be utilising 'volunteers' from all those nations its got a presence in, as well as recruiting 'fanatics from home'.


Volunteer Squads and Hoppers have been stated as being available to everyone.

BTW, Hooray for the new tank for Aleksander!!! I really didn't like that weird barrel on the left side.

Posted by: simeon5541 14 Feb 2013, 19:44

QUOTE (MARS @ 14 Feb 2013, 11:02) *
They will also have unique artillery units, albeit in a different design niche. The Mortar Track is unique in that it is available at Tier-1 in addition to Charles' Claymore Howitzer which'll be Tier-2. The other ECA Generals will only have unique niche equivalents at Tier-2.

I always wondered why current ECA is currently using only one or two (if you count Mole) artillery units
since their description says they are artillery based faction,yeah they have mortar pits and Howitzers,
but they really lack mobile artillery in my opinion,China is real artillery faction . . . But yeah . . . This is all beta . . . So we can expect changes.

I have one question also,
it was already confirmed that one Chinese general will have new jet . . .
Which general and will it be replacement for interceptor or hellfire ?

Posted by: MR.Kim 14 Feb 2013, 19:57

QUOTE (X1Destroy @ 14 Feb 2013, 13:00) *
Volunteer Squads and Hoppers have been stated as being available to everyone.


Iirc, Volunteer Squad is exclusive for Red Army.

Posted by: MARS 14 Feb 2013, 20:52

^ It isn't, mate. Volunteers will be available to everyone, according to our current plans.

As for your question, simeon: Mau (Special Weapons) is planned to have a unique replacement for the MiG Fighter.

Posted by: MR.Kim 14 Feb 2013, 21:11

Ah, I see. Thanks me clear for that.

Posted by: JamBai 14 Feb 2013, 21:12

About Tier 1 Anti-air is USA the only faction that each general gets a different Anti-air vehicle ?

if i remember correct Bradley gets an M113 , Thorn gets the avenger and griffon gets an exclusive that has not been revealed yet correct?
Anyway my point is are the other factions generals getting any exclusives Tier 1 Anti-air ?

and yes i know i am REALLY BAD at explaining!


Posted by: dangerman1337 14 Feb 2013, 21:46

Also I recall in the INI files that Orlov was going to get a bunker add-on for the component tower and there was a mention that Zhukov was going to get an artillery add-on for him, is this true?

EDIT: Also talking defence structures, since IIRC the Gun Turret for the ECA will be going to Wilhem and the other two getting their own unique ones will they be filling the anti-tank niche or are they different (if they don't have any AT I assume why the Reinforced Fortifactions were done to protect against heavier assaults)?

Posted by: simeon5541 14 Feb 2013, 23:17

QUOTE (MARS @ 14 Feb 2013, 20:52) *
As for your question, simeon: Mau (Special Weapons) is planned to have a unique replacement for the MiG Fighter.

And it would use Black Eagle voice ?
Cant't wait to see it . . .

QUOTE (dangerman1337 @ 14 Feb 2013, 21:46) *
Also I recall in the INI files that Orlov was going to get a bunker add-on for the component tower and there was a mention that Zhukov was going to get an artillery add-on for him, is this true?

EDIT: Also talking defence structures, since IIRC the Gun Turret for the ECA will be going to Wilhem and the other two getting their own unique ones will they be filling the anti-tank niche or are they different (if they don't have any AT I assume why the Reinforced Fortifactions were done to protect against heavier assaults)?


2.0 will be soooooo much fun 8I.gif

Posted by: foxhoundx7 15 Feb 2013, 0:11

Thank You For Your Feedback and Answers Everyone

Now for a Couple of New Questions

1 Why Does Every Chinese Vehicle Have a Red Star With a Gold Ring Around it?. Because it Looks Poorly Detailed?.

2 You Said 1 ECA General. 1 Russian General 1 GLA General. is Getting a Unique MBT. What About The Chinese Generals and The USA Generals MBT?.

3 Are You Gonna Add The Red Army Logo on The Overlord?. What About The Airship You Gonna Add the Secret Police Logo On It?. Add The Air Force Logo on the Wasp Hive or Not?.

4 Same as Question 3. Add The Warlord Logo on The BM-21 Grad?. Add The Terror Cell Logo on The Demo Track?.

5 OK this Question is About Shockwave. After ROTR 1.82 Is Their Gonna Be a Shockwave 1.11 Minor Bug Fix Patch?. Because All 3 Overlords are Bugged!. They Can't Even Shoot at Infantry With Their Main Guns

6 The Secret Police General. What Kind of Units Will He Have Like Some MG Infantry or a Police Like Infantry like The Peacekeeper From Red Alert 3?.

7 Is The Special Weapons General and The Secret Police Getting Some Sort of Counterpart of The Red Army Overlord Tank?. Like a Tank Between The Battlemaster and The Overlord

8 Is The Battlemaster Tank For All 3 Chinese Generals?

9 How Come Aleksandr Doesn't Get The Sentinel Tank. Didn't His Faction Built It?

10 So No Zero Hour Stuff is Returning?. Who's Getting The Avenger and The Microwave Tank?. What About The Demo Traps?. Is the Advanced One Coming Back?.

11 What Kind of Other Units is Orlov Getting?.. Like Some Spetsnaz Unit?. What About Zhukov What is He Getting?. What Other Stuff is Aleksandr Getting?.

12 How Many Planes Does Air Force Generals Have? What Kind of Infantry is He Getting?.

13 Is the Special Forces General Getting Some Sort of Delta Force Unit Like an Attack Bike. Attack Buggy From a Chuck Norris Movie?. Because it Would be Funny to See Colonel Burton on a Bike

14 Are There Gonna Be Marines For Tank Command General

15 The New GLA Rebel Unit Shoots like the Old Rebel and The Stealth Rebel From Shockwave. Did you Mix Them?.

16 You Said The Second Korean War Happened in ROTR Universe. What About The Second Vietnam War Did It Happened in That Universe?.

These are Questions I Would like Answered Soon.



Posted by: (USA)Bruce 15 Feb 2013, 0:30

^

SO MANY QUESTIONS

Remindes me of myself some time, I dont think people will answer them all.

Just remember that the current version of the game is the beta and 2.0 will be fully polished with units probably having thier general logos on them.

If theres no offical post or comment about a unit like that burton bike; Either it wont be added at all or it will be revealed in the future.

There is no reason for them to ruin the suprise, so other then the 2.0 getting polished this is basicly asking all the asked questions again....

We should really pin a topic to preven this

Posted by: foxhoundx7 15 Feb 2013, 0:58

I Forgot To Ask These Questions

17 Is The Pyro Technician and The Nukaneer Exclusive To Special Weapons Generals?.

18 Is The Autoloaders Upgrade Coming Back?

19 What About The Rifle Grenades Upgrade For the Red Guards?.

20 What About The MOAB Support Power?.

21 For 1.82 is Their Gonna be New General Promotions For New Units?. Because Each Faction Has Two Unlock Tech. Except The ECA. Are you Gonna Add a Third Unlock Tech For Each Faction
Like Name All Unlock Techs After All The Generals Tactics?. Like Area Bombardment. Experimental Technologies. Air Dominance. Bio-Chemical Warfare. Airborne Mobility. Electronic Warfare & Propaganda. etc.
Since All Three Unlock Tech Could Be Like a Preview To The Generals Selection For 2.0.

22 Are You Gonna Change The General Points System?. Like Give More Points To Each Rank?.

That All The Questions For Now.

Posted by: InsurgentCell 15 Feb 2013, 1:55

QUOTE (foxhoundx7 @ 14 Feb 2013, 18:11) *
A CRAP LOAD OF QUESTIONS.

Okay... mmm that is a LOT of questions to answer, but I'll do my best.

1.The red star and gold ring is the horde bonus. Its when 5 or more 'horde' units (Battlemaster, red guard, tank hunter... mostly basic units) gather together and gain a bonus from their strength in numbers.

2. No idea where you got that.

3. I don't know what you mean by logo. If you meant the horde bonus stars, then no, they do not have horde bonus. Well... except the overlord. Only most chinese units get horde bonus

4. ... I dont know ... but I guesss same answer as 3? blink.gif

5. I don't know about shockwave.... it seems that production for it stopped. The mod's done. They might come back and make a minor patch, but I doubt it.

6. 7. 8. We don't know yet. The General specific units are yet to be revealed wink.gif

9. I'm not sure. Aleksander is the special weapons general. He's gonna be using more tesla, flame, and other stuff. Maybe he doesn't need the sentinel

10. Well, the main style of gameplay is preserved, but there is gonna be a lot of new additions and improvements.

11. We don't know yet.

12. sigh... that is yet to be revealed...

13. 14. 15. 17. 18.I refuse to give an answer.

16. The Vietnam war is over. The Korean war was not. Technically, North Korea and South Korea are still at a declaration of War. They didn't make peace yet, and tensions are high. North Vietnam won a long time ago, and now its just Vietnam.

19. I don't think its going anywhere. Red Guard has it now, and will probably still have it in 2.0

20. I'm actully curious about that one too. What's become of it? Maybe its only for General Griffon?

21. I'm guessing yes.

22. I doubt it. Maybe a little, but no major significant changes.

Posted by: foxhoundx7 15 Feb 2013, 2:21

OK i Kind of Meant the Red Star on the Vehicles not The Horde Bonus. and I Was Talking about the Logo For General Chen on The Overlord Tank.

and I Meant Something Like Operation Vietnam Freedom. Like the Iraq War. Did The USA Liberate Vietnam From The Communist?. Has The Republic of Vietnam Been Revived?.

They Said The Hopper Tank is for All 3 Generals. What About The Battlemaster Tank?. and What About Taiwan Was it Taken Over by China?.

Posted by: Casojin 15 Feb 2013, 2:57

You should do some more research on history and world political situation.
As for RotR China story, you should have checked http://forums.swr-productions.com/index.php?showtopic=3009.

Posted by: foxhoundx7 15 Feb 2013, 3:17

I've Kind of Meant The Challenger Tank For General Charles. Which is His Leopard Tank Replacement. and The Unknown Tank For General Aleksandr. His Kodiak Tank Replacement

and They Said The Old Scorpion Tank is for General Yusuuf. and The New Scorpion Tank is Going To General Ibrahiim and General Sulaymaan.

I Was Actually Talking About USA and China. Like is their Gonna be a Crusader Tank Replacement and a Battlemaster Tank Replacement?.

We Now Know The Marauder Tank is For The Warlord General. The Paladin Tank is For The Tank Command General. and The Overlord For The Red Army General.

One More Thing is Their Gonna Be More GLA Aircraft In The Future?.

PS: I'm Not Gonna Talk about Vietnam or Taiwan Anymore. and Thank You For Your Feedback.

Posted by: foxhoundx7 15 Feb 2013, 3:33

I Forgot To Ask What Happened To All The Zero Hour Generals. We Know Dr Thrax and Deathstrike Are Dead. So What Happened to the Other Generals?.

Quick Question is GLA Warlord Sulaymaan The GLA Commander From Zero Hour?. The One You Play in The Campaign?. Are One of the USA Generals and China Generals. The Commanders You Play As?.

Are We Gonna See Some Unique Faction Buildings in the Final Version?.

That's All for Today.

Posted by: Casojin 15 Feb 2013, 3:56

About the storyline, http://forums.swr-productions.com/index.php?showtopic=184.

Posted by: Swven 15 Feb 2013, 4:04

I heavily would advise you to read the lore.

While I do like the enthusiasm, I do like to say, that, I am assuming you relatively new to the community, and it's heavily advised you read the lore from WAAY back (definitely helps, check out the update archive forum topic). It will answer most of the questions.

Posted by: X1Destroy 15 Feb 2013, 4:35

QUOTE
19. I don't think its going anywhere. Red Guard has it now, and will probably still have it in 2.0


It has been removed in 1.8. Didn't you know it?

Posted by: Casojin 15 Feb 2013, 5:11

Red Guard Rifle Grenade is removed because Pyro Tech is moved to T0 as anti-garrison infantry and probably to save up the upgrade slot.

Posted by: foxhoundx7 15 Feb 2013, 5:12

OK I Am Not Going To Talk About The Story and Lore Since I've Already Read All Of It. Now Lets Get Back On Topic. I Am Going Ask Less Questions Now. So Lets See.

1 - About Colonel Burton On a Bike. It Was Only a Joke Because I Was Watching The Delta Force Movie. I was Only Suggesting it Should be Used For The Campaign Like Against a GLA Convoy. or For April Fools?.

2 - Is Their Gonna Be a Unique Terrorist Unit For 1 of the Generals?.

3 - How Come The Bomb Truck Can't Combine The Bio Bomb and The High Explosive Bomb?. Was it Because of Balanced?.

4 - You Said The Scud Launcher For The Bio Command General. and The BM-21 Grad For The Warlord General. What Long Range Unit is The Terror Cell General Getting?.

5 - So The Blackshark Helicopter and The Railgun Kodiak are Scrapped. So What Do Think The New Russian Mystery Tank and The New Russian Mystery Helicopter Is?.

6 - Is Their Going To Be a Unique Dragon Tank For Special Weapons General?.

7 - Their Is Only One ECM Tank for One General Right?.

That's All For Now.

Posted by: InsurgentCell 15 Feb 2013, 5:15

QUOTE (X1Destroy @ 14 Feb 2013, 22:35) *
It has been removed in 1.8. Didn't you know it?


I actully haven't... I'm not very observant as you can see... even though I play China more often than any other faction.

Posted by: X1Destroy 15 Feb 2013, 5:28

Rifle grenade made the red guards too powerful, it good that it was removed.

There were situation where 8 red guards with grenade blasted a damn sentinel with no Warden to hell.

Posted by: Casojin 15 Feb 2013, 5:37

QUOTE (foxhoundx7 @ 15 Feb 2013, 11:12) *
OK I Am Not Going To Talk About The Story and Lore Since I've Already Read All Of It. Now Lets Get Back On Topic. I Am Going Ask Less Questions Now. So Lets See.

1 - About Colonel Burton On a Bike. It Was Only a Joke Because I Was Watching The Delta Force Movie. I was Only Suggesting it Should be Used For The Campaign Like Against a GLA Convoy. or For April Fools?.

2 - Is Their Gonna Be a Unique Terrorist Unit For 1 of the Generals?.

3 - How Come The Bomb Truck Can't Combine The Bio Bomb and The High Explosive Bomb?. Was it Because of Balanced?.

4 - You Said The Scud Launcher For The Bio Command General. and The BM-21 Grad For The Warlord General. What Long Range Unit is The Terror Cell General Getting?.

5 - So The Blackshark Helicopter and The Railgun Kodiak are Scrapped. So What Do Think The New Russian Mystery Tank and The New Russian Mystery Helicopter Is?.

6 - Is Their Going To Be a Unique Dragon Tank For Special Weapons General?.

7 - Their Is Only One ECM Tank for One General Right?.

That's All For Now.

2. Probably no
3. Because the Bio bomb is not the original ZH one (it's something new) and combined them together would be OP
4. I think one of them would be standard GLA tool of war but I can't remember which one
5. I don't know
6. Probably no as well
7. If my memory is correct, the banshee will be long to 1 Gen while other two get normal ZH ECM

Posted by: X1Destroy 15 Feb 2013, 5:41



Maybe this? It would be great if this thing become the new dragon tank.

Posted by: MARS 15 Feb 2013, 7:22

QUOTE (foxhoundx7 @ 15 Feb 2013, 0:11) *
1 Why Does Every Chinese Vehicle Have a Red Star With a Gold Ring Around it?. Because it Looks Poorly Detailed?.
2 You Said 1 ECA General. 1 Russian General 1 GLA General. is Getting a Unique MBT. What About The Chinese Generals and The USA Generals MBT?.
3 Are You Gonna Add The Red Army Logo on The Overlord?. What About The Airship You Gonna Add the Secret Police Logo On It?. Add The Air Force Logo on the Wasp Hive or Not?.
4 Same as Question 3. Add The Warlord Logo on The BM-21 Grad?. Add The Terror Cell Logo on The Demo Track?.
5 OK this Question is About Shockwave. After ROTR 1.82 Is Their Gonna Be a Shockwave 1.11 Minor Bug Fix Patch?. Because All 3 Overlords are Bugged!. They Can't Even Shoot at Infantry With Their Main Guns
6 The Secret Police General. What Kind of Units Will He Have Like Some MG Infantry or a Police Like Infantry like The Peacekeeper From Red Alert 3?.
7 Is The Special Weapons General and The Secret Police Getting Some Sort of Counterpart of The Red Army Overlord Tank?. Like a Tank Between The Battlemaster and The Overlord
8 Is The Battlemaster Tank For All 3 Chinese Generals?
9 How Come Aleksandr Doesn't Get The Sentinel Tank. Didn't His Faction Built It?
10 So No Zero Hour Stuff is Returning?. Who's Getting The Avenger and The Microwave Tank?. What About The Demo Traps?. Is the Advanced One Coming Back?.
11 What Kind of Other Units is Orlov Getting?.. Like Some Spetsnaz Unit?. What About Zhukov What is He Getting?. What Other Stuff is Aleksandr Getting?.
12 How Many Planes Does Air Force Generals Have? What Kind of Infantry is He Getting?.
13 Is the Special Forces General Getting Some Sort of Delta Force Unit Like an Attack Bike. Attack Buggy From a Chuck Norris Movie?. Because it Would be Funny to See Colonel Burton on a Bike
14 Are There Gonna Be Marines For Tank Command General
15 The New GLA Rebel Unit Shoots like the Old Rebel and The Stealth Rebel From Shockwave. Did you Mix Them?.
16 You Said The Second Korean War Happened in ROTR Universe. What About The Second Vietnam War Did It Happened in That Universe?.
17 Is The Pyro Technician and The Nukaneer Exclusive To Special Weapons Generals?.
18 Is The Autoloaders Upgrade Coming Back?
19 What About The Rifle Grenades Upgrade For the Red Guards?.
20 What About The MOAB Support Power?.
21 For 1.82 is Their Gonna be New General Promotions For New Units?. Because Each Faction Has Two Unlock Tech. Except The ECA. Are you Gonna Add a Third Unlock Tech For Each Faction
Like Name All Unlock Techs After All The Generals Tactics?. Like Area Bombardment. Experimental Technologies. Air Dominance. Bio-Chemical Warfare. Airborne Mobility. Electronic Warfare & Propaganda. etc.
Since All Three Unlock Tech Could Be Like a Preview To The Generals Selection For 2.0.
22 Are You Gonna Change The General Points System?. Like Give More Points To Each Rank?.


1 The red star with the gold ring appears when your units have active horde bonus.
2 There are only so many unique ways to implement an MBT and we're only doing it as long as it fits and as long as we have decent ideas, not because we absolutely have to.
3 We might do that at a later point.
4 See 3.
5 Right now, there aren't any future plans for Shockwave.
6 Currently classified.
7 Special Weapons gets a heavier vehicle that'll be -vaguely- comparable to an Overlord.
8 Yes.
7 The Special Weapons General will have a vehicle that'll likely be heavier and tougher than the Battlemaster and vaguely comparable to the Overlord.
8. According to current plans, yes.
9 It's never been stated that he developed it. Story-wise, Aleksandr's unit is a self-contained entity outside the regular Russian Army. As such, they use non-standard equipment.
10 Of course there's gonna be plenty of Zero Hour stuff. USA Special Forces gets the Avenger, USA Tank Command gets the Microwave Tank and all GLA Generals have regular Demo Traps.
11 Orlov will have unique Spetsnaz units to replace most of his standard infantry as well as a number of dedicated specialists. Can't reveal anything on Zhukov and Aleksandr as this one's kinda bordering on info-fishing.
12 According to current plans, he has seven aircraft, including planes and helicopters. Infantry isn't his thing.
13 There are no such plans at this time.
14 He may be a Marine in the story, but since his focus is on tank warfare, unique infantry units don't seem appropriate for him.
15 Not consciously at least.
16 The Korean situation will receive some exposition very soon. As for Vietnam, the country was actually strong-armed into China's hegemony, the Greater Asian Peoples Alliance, after Zero Hour. Doesn't mean they like it though and we're gonna explore that part later.
17 Nukeneers will be exclusive to China Special Weapons. The Pyros will actually be made available to all Chinese Generals.
18 Yes, for Special Weapons.
19 That has been removed because it really wasn't all that practical aside from garrison clearing and you basically have Pyros for that.
20 The MOAB will not make a return as it is now considered unfitting for the US faction which is designed for precision, not indiscriminate AoE destruction.
21 Wait and see. The layout of the General Powers will be radically different as of 2.0.
22 The implementation of the Generals -might- result in a change to the point system but that's something we'll work out once we get to it.

Posted by: X1Destroy 15 Feb 2013, 7:41

QUOTE
18 Is The Autoloaders Upgrade Coming Back?

QUOTE
18 Yes, for Special Weapons.


Weren't it supposed to be Red Army's? Special Weapon seem to be very overpowered now.

Posted by: MARS 15 Feb 2013, 7:48

Pretty much all the things that make China-SW powerful (i.e. its unique combat units and upgrades such as the Autoloaders) are Tier-2, meaning you will have to rely on standard Chinese units and a number of indirect support units until you actually get there. I can also imagine that most of his exclusive stuff will be uncharacteristically expensive for Chinese tech.

Posted by: Serialkillerwhale 15 Feb 2013, 7:56

1: Are you tired of these questions.

Posted by: foxhoundx7 15 Feb 2013, 8:36

I Going Stop The Questions For Now Until The Next Mod Update OK.

Posted by: foxhoundx7 15 Feb 2013, 8:39

Sorry About The Bad Grammar. I Mean I'm Going To Stop Questioning Until The Next Mod Updates OK.

Posted by: foxhoundx7 15 Feb 2013, 10:02

QUOTE (MARS @ 14 Feb 2013, 22:22) *
1 The red star with the gold ring appears when your units have active horde bonus.
2 There are only so many unique ways to implement an MBT and we're only doing it as long as it fits and as long as we have decent ideas, not because we absolutely have to.
3 We might do that at a later point.
4 See 3.
5 Right now, there aren't any future plans for Shockwave.
6 Currently classified.
7 Special Weapons gets a heavier vehicle that'll be -vaguely- comparable to an Overlord.
8 Yes.
7 The Special Weapons General will have a vehicle that'll likely be heavier and tougher than the Battlemaster and vaguely comparable to the Overlord.
8. According to current plans, yes.
9 It's never been stated that he developed it. Story-wise, Aleksandr's unit is a self-contained entity outside the regular Russian Army. As such, they use non-standard equipment.
10 Of course there's gonna be plenty of Zero Hour stuff. USA Special Forces gets the Avenger, USA Tank Command gets the Microwave Tank and all GLA Generals have regular Demo Traps.
11 Orlov will have unique Spetsnaz units to replace most of his standard infantry as well as a number of dedicated specialists. Can't reveal anything on Zhukov and Aleksandr as this one's kinda bordering on info-fishing.
12 According to current plans, he has seven aircraft, including planes and helicopters. Infantry isn't his thing.
13 There are no such plans at this time.
14 He may be a Marine in the story, but since his focus is on tank warfare, unique infantry units don't seem appropriate for him.
15 Not consciously at least.
16 The Korean situation will receive some exposition very soon. As for Vietnam, the country was actually strong-armed into China's hegemony, the Greater Asian Peoples Alliance, after Zero Hour. Doesn't mean they like it though and we're gonna explore that part later.
17 Nukeneers will be exclusive to China Special Weapons. The Pyros will actually be made available to all Chinese Generals.
18 Yes, for Special Weapons.
19 That has been removed because it really wasn't all that practical aside from garrison clearing and you basically have Pyros for that.
20 The MOAB will not make a return as it is now considered unfitting for the US faction which is designed for precision, not indiscriminate AoE destruction.
21 Wait and see. The layout of the General Powers will be radically different as of 2.0.
22 The implementation of the Generals -might- result in a change to the point system but that's something we'll work out once we get to it.


1 I Didn't Mean The Horde Bonus Star. i was Talking about The Red Star on The Dozer. The Overlord. The Battlemaster. The Hopper Tank. etc.

2 I Wont Talk about That Anymore.

5 Too Bad. I Guess I'll Enjoy The Current Version of Shockwave.

7 Great.

8 Yes.

10 Alright.

11 What About The VDV Units. Are They For Orlov Only?.

12 OK Seven Aircraft Good.

13 I Kind of Wanted To See Colonel Burton VS Jarmen Kell In a Bike Fight Because it Would Be Awesome.

14 OK.

15 I've Kind of Meant The Way They Hold their Rifles?.

16 Hmm Who Won Korean War 2. North or South?. Is The Condition in Vietnam Better?.

17 Glad That's Cleared Up.

18 Why Special Weapons. and Not Red Army Isn't He Suppose To Be a Mix of Tank General and Infantry General From Zero Hour

19 Oh Well.

20 I Guess We'll Settle For The FOAB Now.

21 I mean for 1.82. Is It Gonna be Different?.

22 Good.




Posted by: Casojin 15 Feb 2013, 10:41

You seem to inquire a lot about Vietnam. Are you a Vietnamese?

Posted by: Vintorez 15 Feb 2013, 11:08

QUOTE (foxhoundx7 @ 14 Feb 2013, 1:39) *
14#Q: Zhukovs Getting The Regular Hokum and Orlovs Getting The BlackShark. The Hind and the Hunchback. While Aleksandrs Getting The Havoc and The PAK FA Right?.

Zukov won't be getting the Hokum

On the Moddb profile there was a Black Shark (basically a black Hokum) the description of which said it was basically "flown by an elite pilot" but I'm pretty sure it's been scrapped.

Posted by: X1Destroy 15 Feb 2013, 12:02

Zhukov will get the Havoc, just like Aleksander.

All of current vanilla russia helicopters will be exclusive to Orlov.

Posted by: melaw 15 Feb 2013, 13:10

QUOTE (X1Destroy @ 15 Feb 2013, 5:41) *


Maybe this? It would be great if this thing become the new dragon tank.



Uuh I know this picture from waaaay back when I could not wait for my pre-ordered Generals!!
Would be a nice reference to the roots^^

Posted by: Серг 15 Feb 2013, 13:11

How are General's Points be implemented? Are they gonna be similar in mechanics like Company of Heroes?
For example, when we choose General from our HQ, do we unlock point tree that will emphasise the power of that General or is it going to be something else?

Posted by: Genmotty 15 Feb 2013, 14:53

QUOTE
7 The Special Weapons General will have a vehicle that'll likely be heavier and tougher than the Battlemaster and vaguely comparable to the Overlord.


Hmm... Not sure I like the sound of that, what with Nuclear Han's, general nuclear weapons inferno artillery etc. it doesn't sound like quite the right direction. I would have prefered the Special Weapons general to be more about using airpower and tactical artillery...less so the tanks armour and infantry.

Posted by: ubermensche 15 Feb 2013, 15:39

I'm ready to bet that Shock Troops will only be available to Alexander and VDV will only be available for Orlov. But will they have conscripts as well?

Posted by: Darkfire Angel 15 Feb 2013, 16:15

QUOTE (ubermensche @ 15 Feb 2013, 16:39) *
I'm ready to bet that Shock Troops will only be available to Alexander and VDV will only be available for Orlov. But will they have conscripts as well?


This has been well known for awhile. Aleksander will have exclusive access to Tesla tech. Orlov will have Spetsnaz as replacements for his basic infantry.

I do have a few questions

1) Will any of ECA generals get unique air drop units from the Deployment Zone?
2) Will we be seeing any of the Upgraded Upgrades (Nationalism, Anthrax Gamma and the like) from Zero Hour return?
3) I assume that the Pyro will be replacing the Red Guards ability to clear garrisons, thus ensuring that they are unique when compared to other basic infantry that all can clear garrisons?

Posted by: Panzer4life 15 Feb 2013, 17:31

I love asking questions, but since I don't want to info-fish, I just want a clarification on Alexsander.
1: Is his unit like the NKVD divisions, loyal to its commander and obey orders from no one?
2: What is stopping the GLA from trying to kill Alexsander, I don't think GLA rebels would like being used for test subjects for tesla-weapons.

Also about Zhukov, will the Topol-M require a general point to unlock, like the nuke cannon?

Posted by: MARS 15 Feb 2013, 18:33

QUOTE (Panzer4life @ 15 Feb 2013, 17:31) *
I love asking questions, but since I don't want to info-fish, I just want a clarification on Alexsander.
1: Is his unit like the NKVD divisions, loyal to its commander and obey orders from no one?
2: What is stopping the GLA from trying to kill Alexsander, I don't think GLA rebels would like being used for test subjects for tesla-weapons.

Also about Zhukov, will the Topol-M require a general point to unlock, like the nuke cannon?


1. Technically yes, but by this point, the Shock Divisions are actually more comparable to the SS in that they have this insane, self-glorifying warrior mythos and their undying, unquestioning loyalty to Aleksandr is connected to him as a person, not his function.
2. But how would the GLA accomplish such a feat? Sneaking into Europe in the middle of WW3 to attack an enemy that is essentially -more- frightening and dangerous than the GLA itself doesn't seem like a thing they would/could do at this time.

And yes, Zhukov's nukes will require a Rank 1 unlock in the same way as Mau's.

Posted by: X1Destroy 15 Feb 2013, 18:56

So basically, Aleksander is crazy nazi leader himself?

Posted by: MR.Kim 15 Feb 2013, 19:05

He likes more mad genius than crazy leadership.

Posted by: MARS 15 Feb 2013, 19:21

QUOTE (X1Destroy @ 15 Feb 2013, 18:56) *
So basically, Aleksander is crazy nazi leader himself?


He's not consciously acting like a nazi because he wants to invoke the ideology; he's just a rotten, egomaniac sociopath and a manipulative bastard who was given unrestrained power to create his own twisted fantasy world.

Posted by: X1Destroy 15 Feb 2013, 19:32

So much for the GLA.......Now they will know 10 times the fear they have infilicted on others....

Posted by: Serialkillerwhale 15 Feb 2013, 20:37

1: Will there be a twin barreled tank in ROTR
2: is 2.0 going to have generals
3: Is this a game mod for ZH.
4: Are these questions pointless.



More seriously: Does the carrier we've been seeing since the US got involved have a sister ship the pacific?

Posted by: XCABAL 15 Feb 2013, 21:57

QUOTE (Serialkillerwhale @ 15 Feb 2013, 11:37) *
1: Will there be a twin barreled tank in ROTR
2: is 2.0 going to have generals
3: Is this a game mod for ZH.
4: Are these questions pointless.



More seriously: Does the carrier we've been seeing since the US got involved have a sister ship the pacific?

Jag mammut? Overloard? Manticore?

Posted by: Maxner12 15 Feb 2013, 22:07

QUOTE (XCABAL @ 15 Feb 2013, 21:57) *
Jag mammut? Overloard? Manticore?

It was a sarcastic comment. Reread his whole post again

Posted by: simeon5541 15 Feb 2013, 22:34

QUOTE (Maxner12 @ 15 Feb 2013, 22:07) *
It was a sarcastic comment. Reread his whole post again

I think that he intentionally answered to him in that fashion,
'cause he is not probably to only one who have diarrhea of his
"I want so hard to be funny",repetitive posts and comments.

Posted by: Maxner12 15 Feb 2013, 22:43

QUOTE (simeon5541 @ 15 Feb 2013, 22:34) *
I think that he intentionally answered to him in that fashion,
'cause he is not probably to only one who have diarrhea of his
"I want so hard to be funny",repetitive posts and comments.


True, every possible thing has been asked and answered, so the whole topic is redundant by now.

Posted by: (USA)Bruce 16 Feb 2013, 0:27

Then let me do the honurs;

And moderators or admins.....Requesting exterminatus on my cordinates,

wait wrong universe...

Requesting thread lockdown

Posted by: foxhoundx7 16 Feb 2013, 1:07

Alright i am going to lock this thread now. If that is alright with everyone.
Until 1.82 release. How do i lock it?.

Posted by: InsurgentCell 16 Feb 2013, 1:52



The fact is we don't know much about the new 2.0 release at all. We know there is going to be a Kodiak Rail-Gun for Aleksander, a TOPOL-M For Zhukov, the goshawk for Charles (i think) and the claymore for Wolfgang. Thats about it.

What I suggest is to stop asking questions about what new units, and features and stuff. Its all part of the surprise, part of the excitement, and the thrill. I8.gif

I gots the last say in dis post biggrin.gif (well I hope)

Lock'er down! lock.gif

Posted by: Mcbob 16 Feb 2013, 2:45

One last question:

What is the reason for SWR not including a TurretEL (pitch) for ground vehicle weapons like tank guns and auto cannons?

I take it it's just to follow the original Generals design style?

Posted by: ubermensche 16 Feb 2013, 4:14

QUOTE (X1Destroy @ 15 Feb 2013, 12:56) *
So basically, Aleksander is crazy nazi leader himself?


I'd say more Heinrich Himmler. A crazy bastard leading a crazy army that he himself would not physically qualify for if he weren't the creator.

Posted by: X1Destroy 16 Feb 2013, 4:27

Please lock this thread.

Everything that is important to know have been answered.

Wait for 1.82 first, then 2.0 later.

Posted by: foxhoundx7 16 Feb 2013, 5:11

I Want To Lock This Topic Now. But i Don't Know How To Lock It?.

Posted by: Comr4de 16 Feb 2013, 6:12

Locky Loading...


























lock.gif
Was getting spammy and basically going into information fishing anyway.

Powered by Invision Power Board (http://www.invisionboard.com)
© Invision Power Services (http://www.invisionpower.com)