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Rise of the Reds Wikia, Calling all wiki request peoplez! I made one so you don't have
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post 5 Dec 2012, 3:35
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I've made a wikia for Rise Of The Reds. Unfortunatly my experience with wikias are 0, so I need your help, especially the title, if you know what i mean ._.

I will be editing and posting on it once in awhile, and any of you can too. I would especially like it if MARS would put stuff on it, because he basically invented the story behind it.

Anyway, here is the link to the wikia: generalsrotr.wikia.com

Remember, anyone can edit it, but MAKE SURE YOUR INFORMATION IS CORRECT!!!

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post 5 Dec 2012, 4:27
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Alright, this is epic, now its time to get the word document working and get my mind ready, time to submit to this post so someone can edit the wiki. Also, can any of the devs give me the unit production icon that appears in the barracks/war factory/airfield when you go to purchase them? That be helpful, as I don't really know how to caputre images and modify them via photoshop? thanks.
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post 5 Dec 2012, 5:30
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Don't want to sound like an arse, but it has been said a million times that the team will be making their own wiki in the future. While it is nice to see fans with such dedication, I feel this wiki will be getting little to no support from the team because, as mentioned earlier, the team will be making their own wiki.

So if you want pictures and stuff, you guys will have to be GLA level resourceful tongue.gif


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post 5 Dec 2012, 6:21
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QUOTE (Zeke @ 5 Dec 2012, 6:30) *
Don't want to sound like an arse, but it has been said a million times that the team will be making their own wiki in the future. While it is nice to see fans with such dedication, I feel this wiki will be getting little to no support from the team because, as mentioned earlier, the team will be making their own wiki.

So if you want pictures and stuff, you guys will have to be GLA level resourceful tongue.gif

WHO NEEDS PHOTOSHOP!

WE HAVE PAINT MY BROTHERS!

PAINT FOR EVERYONE!
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post 5 Dec 2012, 7:32
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Basically, right now, we are busy working on the mod so don't expect any official word on our wiki plans anytime soon. Chances are we'll deal with that kind of stuff after 2.0, when all the content is complete and finalised. However, I will not stop anyone from working on this one. Just make sure that whatever you put up there is spellchecked, factually correct, cross-referenced and canon. Depending on how good a job you guys make, we -might- as well just officialise this one by the time it's complete. I certainly wouldn't mind but I gotta talk about it with The_Hunter first. If you guys do this right, you'd be saving us a lot of work and time which we could dedicate to other things, and I'd certainly be thankful for that.
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post 5 Dec 2012, 8:06
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Just making sure - so basically it's okay if the weekly update info gets copy-pasted in the wiki as long as reference is mentioned?
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post 5 Dec 2012, 8:16
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Well, if we are talking about unit profiles, they should still have a proper 'pure fact' description i.e. who gets it, how much does it cost, where it is produced, what's required, what does it kill, what counters it etc. but alongside that, a lore description could be posted as well. Basically, you -can- model the sides after the ones in the old Wiki as long as you don't copy-paste full-text descriptions or other material from it. Although it'd say the basic structure of the pages should be laid out first before anyone starts adding lore elements.
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post 5 Dec 2012, 8:54
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I see no reason why we can't use content from the previous wiki as most of it was actually written by current or former team members, and the license does allow it.

Especially in the case of extremely tedious things such as the cameos, most of which have not changed, it would be an entirely useless waste of time to do the exact same thing again.


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post 5 Dec 2012, 9:02
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As long as it's written by people who are still with us (and who obviously hold the rights to the stuff that they wrote) you can do that but The_Hunter has made it clear that we do NOT wish to be
connected to that old Wiki in any fashion. That means no linking, no referencing and any images you use have to re-uploaded to the new wiki or replaced with newer, clearer ones if necessary.
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post 5 Dec 2012, 9:02
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Let me guess, it's named CNCEAGZHSWRROTR.wkia.com

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post 5 Dec 2012, 13:14
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I've added a little bit of info to the front page, feel free to proof read etc


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post 5 Dec 2012, 13:38
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Hmm...Kudos to the unofficial work, you might want to inquire as to if the tech-tree/build tree images for the factions can be uploaded since doing that will save a fair bit of time in writing it out manually.

Secondly, I'd advise against including opinion on units, or direct stats because these may change with different versions due to balance, and/or because opinion is opinion, and not fact. You need to keep everything objective.

Thirdly, keep the language formal without the emoticons or '1337' comments and similar. Formal wikia's look and read so much better.

Fourthly, a few longer pages broken up into relevant sections is far easier to navigate than having a ton of pages. If possible keep the number of pages to a complete minimum. Suggestion;


Overview Page:- Purpose. To navigate the wikia
--Subsections
---Game Overview:- What does ROTR seek to achieve, legacy, ancestry, versions (many links)
---Game Concepts:- Brief descrip. of factions, AA Tiers, Addition of limited naval assets, Generals (many links)
---Game Features:- Brief link list of factions/features (many links) (major link to Faction Page)
---Game Backstory:- Brief descript. of dev update backstorys, general backstory, link with vG and ZH (major link to Backstory Page)
---Game Dev team:- Brief descript. of dev team, their roles and kudos for their work
---Further information:- link to other information repositories, ModDB SWR forums etc.

Faction Page:- Purpose. To display unit/building/General information
--Subsections
---Purpose of Page:- nod to version differences as well as balence
---Faction/General Overview
----China
-----China Gen A
-----China Gen B
-----China Gen C
----ECA
-----ECA Gen A
-----ECA Gen B
-----ECA Gen C
----GLA
-----GLA Gen A
-----GLA Gen B
-----GLA Gen C
----Russia
-----Russia Gen A
-----Russia Gen B
-----Russia Gen C
----USA
-----USA Gen A
-----USA Gen B
-----USA Gen C


Backstory Page:- Purpose. Fluff back story
--Subsection
---Purpose of Page, discussion of fluff updates as devs way of telling backstory
---'The Plot so far...' a written, full text history of the ROTR universe independent of updates
---Link list/list of updates
---Queries, ambiguities, retcons


That might help you with some structuring.

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post 5 Dec 2012, 14:27
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QUOTE (Genmotty @ 5 Dec 2012, 18:38) *
Overview Page:- Purpose. To navigate the wikia
--Subsections
---Game Overview:- What does ROTR seek to achieve, legacy, ancestry, versions (many links)
---Game Concepts:- Brief descrip. of factions, AA Tiers, Addition of limited naval assets, Generals (many links)
---Game Features:- Brief link list of factions/features (many links) (major link to Faction Page)
---Game Backstory:- Brief descript. of dev update backstorys, general backstory, link with vG and ZH (major link to Backstory Page)
---Game Dev team:- Brief descript. of dev team, their roles and kudos for their work
---Further information:- link to other information repositories, ModDB SWR forums etc.

Something obvious - better replace all those "game" with "mod" in the subsection titels if you're going to make these subsections. It's so easy to forget that ROTR is still a mod and not an expansion game. tongue.gif
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post 5 Dec 2012, 21:47
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Started getting the pictures of Russian units for the wiki. Also, does anyone have any good way to capture video while playing the game, I think it be nice for tutiroals on "how to" for the factions.
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post 5 Dec 2012, 21:58
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Here's a slightly outdated wiki that you're free to copy the content from:

http://wiki.falloutstudios.org/wiki/Rise_of_the_Reds
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post 5 Dec 2012, 23:13
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This ROTR is different from the pre-SWR one from fallout studios, but I guess there can be some useful information.


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post 6 Dec 2012, 1:53
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Alright, I have a page for the Russian conscript thought out and on a word document, yet when I try to upload the attachment, I get a "You are not permitted to upload this type of fiel". And suggestions on how to upload my word document for critique and praise?
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post 6 Dec 2012, 2:36
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I'm no expert on wikis but why upload an MS word file? Isn't it simpler to make a new page?


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post 6 Dec 2012, 4:02
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I think you can simply copy-paste the contents of your word document on the editing page?


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post 6 Dec 2012, 13:24
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Maybe we should build a wiki editing team, I know not everyone here knows how to edit/create wikia pages.


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post 6 Dec 2012, 18:07
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I haven't edited a wiki page before, but I'll see how easy it is to do today. I will make a page for the Russian conscript. to begin with.

-edit: Alright, I made an account, but have to wait for a confirmation e-mail to come in. Looks easy to edit. I am coming up with my title; Wiki editor and picture-capture uploader.

-edit 2x: The account is made, now going to get to work.

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post 6 Dec 2012, 20:39
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I'm in if we do make a team


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post 6 Dec 2012, 22:09
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QUOTE (InsurgentCell @ 5 Dec 2012, 16:13) *
This ROTR is different from the pre-SWR one from fallout studios, but I guess there can be some useful information.

That wiki is for the SWR version.
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post 7 Dec 2012, 0:03
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Its not so obvious considering its wiki.falloutstudios.org


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post 7 Dec 2012, 0:57
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There's a few more odds and sods in there now. I've started a page about ROTRs history etc separate from the welcome page.


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