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SWR Productions Forum _ Frontline News _ ROTR 1.87 Update 6
Posted by: The_Hunter 17 Nov 2016, 19:56
Us developers and beta testers have been working tirelessly on getting ROTR into a better shape than before are are close to reaching a point where we want to present it to you all.
Leading up to that we will be presenting you with (more) regular updates every week starting from today.
With that being said enjoy our latest renders!
The F-35 is the most widely produced fighter jet of the 21st century, with over 2,000 produced and in use with multiple armed forces worldwide. The A variant serves as the USAF's primary strike fighter, the B variant the US Marine Corps' rapidly deployed stealth fighter from Wasp & America class amphibious assault ships, and the C the US Navy's primary stealth tactical fighter, based from the Nimitz & Ford class supercarriers. US military aviators gave the Lightning II the sarcastic nickname "Widowmaker" due to early (and thankfully false) concerns about the aircraft's survivability in contested airspace and troubled development cycle. Despite a fine service record since then, superseding the F-16 Falcon, AV-6 Harrier, and F/A-18 Hornet, the name stuck. Armed with AIM-120 AMRAAMs and AGM-305 joint air to ground missiles, the Widowmaker can capably engage and destroy any possible target.
Starting as of Version 1.87 the Raptor will be replaced by the Widowmaker as default fighter aircraft altho rest assured the Raptor will be making a return as a general exclusive in the future.
During the period of rearmament of the US Armed Forces in response to a growing global presence of near-peer military adversaries and the threat posed by ever more sophisticated low-frequency radars and tracking systems, the US military requested a design for a new optionally manned strike bomber. The demands were that the new aircraft would be at least as stealthy as Northrop Grumman's B-21 Raider and less expensive than the F/B-40 Aurora, and would be capable for aircraft carrier deployment. Lockheed Martin and Boeing submitted two final designs, a less expensive but slower variant for the US Air Force and a higher speed penetration bomber for the US Navy. The first model was named the A-19 Nighthawk II. Its blended wing body design and advanced jamming devices make it extremely difficult to detect with nearly any radar or infrared system, and the Nighthawk II in both variants is capable of carrying up to the heaviest forms of JDAMs, missiles, and laser-guided munitions. To save costs, both variants of the Nighthawk II use off-the-shelf avionics from the F-35, and the A-19 variant uses high-bypass versions of the F/A-18E's F414 engine.
The F/B-19 Nighthawk II is the version used by the US Navy. It is carrier capable and is geared towards high altitude, high speed penetration bombing. To that end, its fuselage is designed for high speed operations and it uses the afterburner-capable versions of the F414 engine. It retains the jamming suite and large weapons bay of the A-19 variant. Given the US Navy's greater usage of drone aircraft, such as Northrop Grumman's MQ-25 Stingray, the F/B-19 is often employed in the AI controlled format for maximum range and flight endurance.
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Posted by: Emin96 17 Nov 2016, 20:18
new updates! YEAHHH 
im happy
Posted by: (USA)Bruce 17 Nov 2016, 20:18
LET THE SALT BEGIN! I GOT MY BINGO READY! RIK STAR COUNTING
Im so happy we can finnaly talk about this sexy pair of wings, and that tail.I mean look at it...THAT TAIL
Gonna look forward to shooting down migs and berkuts with this baby when its avaible for the public!
However I should mention to people that this isnt the VTOL varriant, so dont ask...
Also Im nostalgic and the old nighthawk has a special place in my heart, but I understand the need for change and how much of a sore thumb it was.
Posted by: 3rdShockArmy 17 Nov 2016, 20:19
Jesus! This was unexpected. Looks great!
Posted by: Admiral*Alex 17 Nov 2016, 20:22
I'm having a hard time following. What's the difference between the Nighthawk and the F/B-19?
Posted by: (USA)Bruce 17 Nov 2016, 20:28
F/B 19 is the varraint to be used in carrier airstrikes called in from high alltitudes, If you can capture and secure a tech airport that is.
Posted by: Admiral*Alex 17 Nov 2016, 20:36
That's what I thought, but at the same time it kind-of sounded like we were getting an Aurora type bomber for the US. Thanks for clearing that up Bruse.
Posted by: SoraZ 17 Nov 2016, 20:36
Correct. The A-19, you will build in-game on your Airfields. The F/B-19, you get from abilities.
Posted by: MARS 17 Nov 2016, 20:37
Pre-empting any possible lore questions:
Look at the Neuralizer. There never was such a thing as a Sea, Carrier or Economy Raptor at any point in the ROTR universe.
Only the standard F-22 (with future upgrades that need not be specified) and a small number of heavily modified GWOT era experimental versions informally known as King Raptors.
Posted by: Edsato82 17 Nov 2016, 21:14
It is always a pleasure to enjoy these updates, great work SWR team :-)
Posted by: {Lads}RikerZZZ 17 Nov 2016, 21:35
I am so happy with the lore of these planes, thats really helped clear up many of my issues with them so far 
Also fucking F-35 hype baby!
I fucking adore this plane, always have, and always will.
I cant wait to start using it when the update goes live!
Posted by: BlackRangerXIII 17 Nov 2016, 22:07
I think moderators should be careful with shitposting in this thread
Because there's a lot of "Birds" here
Posted by: NikCaputnic 17 Nov 2016, 22:13
"This is a nice jet!"
I especially like the F/B 19 variant: its model is brilliant. So many small details, such a great appearance (Nighthawk's scheme is great too (actually it is quite identical), but that new thing has fresh futuristic frame design). That is why I just need to say my opinion about its game-role: using such a great model, which obviously took many efforts to create, for just mere airstrike from a tech building, which doesn't even presented in many maps, is absolutely unfair. I mean, it is OK for now, but for 2.0 it surely deserves to be a general-specific plane. Hope it will be reconsidered when the time will come (I mean 2.0).
P.S. Please don't hurt me 
Posted by: 8igDaddy8lake 17 Nov 2016, 23:29
I especially like the F/B 19 variant: its model is brilliant. So many small details, such a great appearance (Nighthawk's scheme is great too (actually it is quite identical), but that new thing has fresh futuristic frame design). That is why I just need to say my opinion about its game-role: using such a great model, which obviously took many efforts to create, for just mere airstrike from a tech building, which doesn't even presented in many maps, is absolutely unfair. I mean, it is OK for now, but for 2.0 it surely deserves to be a general-specific plane. Hope it will be reconsidered when the time will come (I mean 2.0).
P.S. Please don't hurt me
I'm sure there's a plan for something in the future involving that plane, possibly as a GP of some kind. I also love the Widowmaker reference...another Lockheed project with similar (although generally far more serious) issues - not to mention usage of the F-19 moniker. And weekly updates! Yay!
Posted by: re_simeone 17 Nov 2016, 23:50
Seems whining and bitching helps around here, are you happy now with your fucking F-35 ?
On a more serious note, I like the change, I love all these changes to US AF. Imo, JSF looks better than Raptor,
and this being a game, well, thing that look better are always better.
I hated Nighthawk and explanation why it is still in use in 2050s. Replacement looks better and I will always more appreciate original designs.
Hope Berkut will get facelift too...Maybe alt skins...
Posted by: SiR Chaff 18 Nov 2016, 0:53
Glad to see some updates here. Hopefully a new release soon. 
Look at the Neuralizer. There never was such a thing as a Sea, Carrier or Economy Raptor at any point in the ROTR universe.
Only the standard F-22 (with future upgrades that need not be specified) and a small number of heavily modified GWOT era experimental versions informally known as King Raptors.
Cheeky
As much as a I have a love-hate relationship with the F-35, a carrier-launched version of the Raptor looked weird even though ZH had them. Does this mean also you're gonna edit the lore article citing the Raptor variants, or just keep it at that for legacy?
Posted by: X1Destroy 18 Nov 2016, 5:13
I thought you guys really want to stick to the "No generic real life Abrams, Apache, F35......units" rule. Not that I hate the F35, I like it infact.
Posted by: GDIZOCOM 18 Nov 2016, 5:27
http://media.moddb.com/images/members/1/316/315535/KEELYOU.png
The A-19 is certainly my favorite thing in the game now
Posted by: chemisthypnos 18 Nov 2016, 7:56
Great update. I can't wait to see what general gets these new units!!
Posted by: MajaNachi:3 18 Nov 2016, 9:31
I love new look on these air fighters / jets.
Thank you for hard work SWR Production team.
Posted by: M.P 18 Nov 2016, 10:29
I'm gonna miss the raptor 
I don't really like the new raptor replacement.
But the nighthawk looks really good, love it.
Posted by: Omnius64 18 Nov 2016, 11:46
What the hell?!?!?! The F-35 should be the general Griffon exclusive unit as main air unit. The F-22 should be kept as the maisntream unit for the other two generals in 2.0....
Posted by: Svea Rike 18 Nov 2016, 11:49
Now we're cooking. That new Nighthawk looks dope, although I'm not sure I understand the difference between the regular one and the bomber version. Is the bomber an upgrade, or a general's power?
Posted by: {Lads}RikerZZZ 18 Nov 2016, 11:57
You know that the F-22 is more high tech and more advanced than the F-35 right?
It makes more sense to be the way it is.
Posted by: X1Destroy 18 Nov 2016, 12:16
It does feel like a waste for the other nighthawk to be just a visual replacement for the tech air strike bomber.
I supposed the model will be used for Griffon's nighthawk, while the other 2 have the basic A19 right?
Posted by: {Lads}RikerZZZ 18 Nov 2016, 12:20
1 is a unit you build, the other comes from tech airports.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted by: X1Destroy 18 Nov 2016, 12:26
I know. But it shouldn't be a problem to have build variants right?
Posted by: DELETED MEMBER 18 Nov 2016, 14:12
I wanted the X-32
Models look great yo
Posted by: SoraZ 18 Nov 2016, 15:49
Nobody said the F-35 is generic. Unlike the Abrams and Apache, which are, the F-35 just didn't have a place in the unit rooster, but plans change and it just so happened that we need a generic Fighter for Bradley and Thorn.
F-35 is for Bradley and Thorn, A-19 is for Griffon (look at the logo), F/B-19 is a generic ability bomber.
I don't really like the new raptor replacement.But the nighthawk looks really good, love it.
You want Raptors, play General Griffon.
I supposed the model will be used for Griffon's nighthawk, while the other 2 have the basic A19 right?
The F/B-19 was modeled first, but then The_Hunter decided otherwise and made the A-19 as it is now instead, but didn't want to throw away the F/B-19, so it was repurposed into an ability-called bomber. Also, no, the A-19 is for Griffon while the other one has the generic logo.
American units don't have build variants beyond maybe ammo boxes (like on the Mule Drone).
Posted by: Storm 18 Nov 2016, 16:18
GoodLord! For once, when I saw this thread listed I thought it was the official announcement by the head for the release of 1.87 to public
Posted by: The_Hunter 18 Nov 2016, 18:47
here you go.
Posted by: M.P 18 Nov 2016, 18:54
Ok 2.0 release when it's done?
Posted by: GeneralCamo 18 Nov 2016, 19:43
The F-35 is a multirole aircraft designed to be relatively cheap in its flexibility. Variants have been deployed to the Air Force, Navy, and Marines in the US. The F-22 on the other hand is an air superiority aircraft (albeit with limited CAS capability, not as much as depicted in-game but it is there) with state of the art equipment. It had to be canned soon after its introduction because it was just too expensive. Existing units are still used by the Airforce however.
Posted by: BlackRangerXIII 18 Nov 2016, 22:13
Beautiful work on the widowmaker guys. Really love it (My favorite design of aircraft)
Questions:
Is the A-19 a model replacement for the nighthawk or a new unit?
and Is the Nighthawk now a Airforce Exclusive?
Posted by: SoraZ 18 Nov 2016, 22:20
Is the A-19 a model replacement for the nighthawk or a new unit?
New model to replace the old one.
It sports the Airforce Gen's logo on its wings, so yes. But, you may ask, what will the other Generals get? The answer: Wait and see.
Posted by: BlackRangerXIII 18 Nov 2016, 22:41
It sports the Airforce Gen's logo on its wings, so yes. But, you may ask, what will the other Generals get? The answer: Wait and see.
Thank you Sora
Posted by: re_simeone 19 Nov 2016, 7:54
Wait wait wait, so Nighthawk is now Griffon exclusive ? He will have vanilla generals air arsenal as his exclusive ? Cool.
And he has two bombers...Oh wait, we don't know what new Aurora will be...
But I know, you guys won't tell what plane will be Nighthawk counterpart in other two generals arsenals,
but will it be jack of all trades bomber, or anti base defences bomber like Nighthawk was ?
Posted by: M01 19 Nov 2016, 17:06
Regardless of F35 hype the Aurora is still the true hype for every dedicated US player here
and thank you for the update hope long bug testing will be done for true release as 1.86 was bit disappointing
Posted by: Omnius64 20 Nov 2016, 18:19
Will the F-35 keep the same stats that the F22 in pre-2.0, or it will be inferior compared to the F-22 in 2.0.?
Posted by: (USA)Bruce 20 Nov 2016, 19:00
It will be replacing the F-22 in 187, In 2.0 Griffon will have the F-22 which will be better overall
Posted by: SoraZ 20 Nov 2016, 20:04
It's been said a few times now, the F-22's stats right now will be used for the F-35, while the F-22 in 2.0 will be better in some way.
Posted by: Edsato82 21 Nov 2016, 13:05
Models look great yo
Yes! The X-32 would have been great!
Posted by: 3rdShockArmy 21 Nov 2016, 18:56
I don't get it. JSF program gave birth to not so good looking jets. The X-35 is not so pretty, but the damn X-32 is the fat version of it. On the other hand, the F-22 is probably one the best looking aircraft in history.
Posted by: Jester 21 Nov 2016, 20:37
Excellent update! However i do miss the lore updates and progressig the war. Im waiting to see how China and the GLA enter the war.
Posted by: {Lads}RikerZZZ 21 Nov 2016, 21:36
You know the people that made the F-35 made the F-22 as well right?
Posted by: NikCaputnic 21 Nov 2016, 22:57
Still, it doesn't mean their other projects couldn't look "not so good".
To tell the truth, F-35's appearance make me think about it being a pencil but with wings. (Lol, a flying pencil
). I am not talking about its characteristics - i mean its visual representation.P.S. Bruce, please don't hurt me
Posted by: 3rdShockArmy 22 Nov 2016, 16:52
Yes, I do. That, however, doesn't mean that everything they design will be equally good looking. F-35 looks "overweight" and much less streamlined than F-22. But, then again, it's just my personal opinion.
Posted by: Scud 22 Nov 2016, 17:59
Models look great yo
I feel you pain, something like this would be cool for USA. But in black/urban camo.
Posted by: GeneralCamo 22 Nov 2016, 23:12
In due time, more lore updates will be coming soon™.
Posted by: Zarax 23 Nov 2016, 8:25
Is there any chance you guys were "inspired" by this?
Posted by: DerKrieger 23 Nov 2016, 17:43
Is there any chance you guys were "inspired" by this?
The name was a bit from the F-19 designation, the aircraft wasn't.
Posted by: MrThirsty247 26 Nov 2016, 8:37
Nice update guys, hyped for the next one as always 
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