GLA vs China Options

[Pickysaurus]

Thought the medium that is Worldbuilder. I put the GLA back into the game (through capture) and played a game vs Medium Army China.

Anyone who is interested in the reply can download it here....

The map is the one posted by Centric - but with a GLA supply centre added to one end of it.

http://www.mediafire.com/?dyltytj5mok

[Anubis]

Although this probably helps in some way, here is my suggestion to make the GLA playable :

step 1 : download finalbig .

step 2 : once downloaded open it by double click .

step 3 : use file -> open ( or simply push the open button ) and go to the RotR folder and select 0000BetaROTR.

step 4 : once you've accesed the big file of rotr, scroll down and find the line called PlayerTemplate.ini and click it.

step 5 : in this ini find the line called faction GLA .

step 6 : remove all the ' ; ' in front of the text from the begining of the gla faction to the 'end' .

Then just save the big and exit. Now you can play with or against gla on any map, and yes it even has an AI . However with the new tier system and all, gla does not suffer from the tier weakness of later mbt's and other stuff, and you might find yourselfs overwhelmed by scorpions .

It's 6 verry easy steps wich imo anyone who has more than 1 year experience with a PC can follow.
Enjoy.

This post has been edited by Anubis: 6 Oct 2009, 19:17

[Shiro]

I did that once in 1.2, and well, I still have to try it in 1.5^^ Certainly, the GLA have one advantage against USA now: Jarmen Kell can, if given time, single handly wipe out hordes of Crusaders

[Casojin]

So, this means GLA is under playable-development stage or simply ZH GLA?

[Destiny]

The GLA was just re-enabled, so it's ZH GLA.

[Pickysaurus]

Although there are some edits to the GLA - Perhaps copied over from Classic Gens...

For example the rocket buggy has got a force-fire command button.

[Shiro]

Yes ZH GLA. If you were eventually refering to my post, I only wrote this because this is the same thing what happens when the new Crusader (and other units) get neutronized and thus the reason why Neutron (and actually Jarmen Kells Neutron Sniper too) have to be removed.

[Pickysaurus]

It's kinda anyones guess which faction will be finished first...
GLA has a large amount of standing units which just have to be built upon, but the team have put a lot of work into the ECA.

They two factions are probably equal atm.
Personally I will enable GLA as is, for video purposes.

[Shiro]

Me too. I miss good ol' Jarmen and the Hijackers

[DELETED MEMBER]

It's kinda anyones guess which faction will be finished first...
GLA has a large amount of standing units which just have to be built upon, but the team have put a lot of work into the ECA.

They two factions are probably equal atm.
Personally I will enable GLA as is, for video purposes.

well, building wise the GLA already (at least theorical from somebody than is not from the team) completed, i mean, the palace and the blackmarket fill the tier buildings perfectly and unit wise i am sure they are more completed than ECA, unless the team is going to change nearly everything in the GLA arsenal, the only thing lacking in the GLA department will be balance, the new units, the tech changes and the Gen powers

[Pickysaurus]

well, building wise the GLA already (at least theorical from somebody than is not from the team) completed, i mean, the palace and the blackmarket fill the tier buildings perfectly and unit wise i am sure they are more completed than ECA, unless the team is going to change nearly everything in the GLA arsenal, the only thing lacking in the GLA department will be balance, the new units, the tech changes and the Gen powers

This being true, the ECA may be completely ready, but just needing to be implemented into the game.
GLA is a good bet to be the first one to finish - but I think there is more anticipation/demand for ECA

[Shiro]

Well actually while the Black Market could as well be used for the second tech tier, I would prefer another building set between Arms Dealer and Palace so the Palace stays the higher tier building. The Black Market should get some abilites (+money) instead of producing upgrades.

[Pickysaurus]

Well actually while the Black Market could as well be used for the second tech tier, I would prefer another building set between Arms Dealer and Palace so the Palace stays the higher tier building. The Black Market should get some abilites (+money) instead of producing upgrades.

Perhaps make the Black Market garrison-able like the palace?

And I'm sure SWR have some epic plans for ROTR's GLA

[Comr4de]

One of the biggest changes in the ECA is an overhaul of a lot of the models. It may look a bit different but otherwise the same solid faction design.

[Pickysaurus]

One of the biggest changes in the ECA is an overhaul of a lot of the models. It may look a bit different but otherwise the same solid faction design.

As ROE was a private Beta, nobody really saw it.

So was pretty much everything one for the European side in that mod? And SWR are just overhauling it?

Because I swear in the screenshots I've seen the ECA had some US buildings as placeholders.

[Shiro]

Well, from what was public available, a lot of the screenshots for example, where showing rather well made buildings (compared to ZH), yet they looked inferior to what Russia looks now, thus the team wants to overhaul them all </IMO>
But yeah, some buildings needed placeholders, however the complete GUI was done afaik (the commandbar for example, looked awesome).

[Comr4de]

agsdfghagh


I meant to say GLA there, not ECA - thats a given. We're basically overhauling the ECA. Sorry for that confusion.

[Shiro]

agsdfghagh

No problem, after rereading it was kinda clear.

[Pickysaurus]

agsdfghagh


I meant to say GLA there, not ECA - thats a given. We're basically overhauling the ECA. Sorry for that confusion.

Heh
I did wonder...

The GLA definately need some bigger guns though
KamuiK and I reactivated GLA and both our bases pretty much fell to one tank rush from china.... it took most of our units (mobs, terorists, tanks, etc) to kill one overlord.
Stinger sites were completely useless - I'd hate to think what it'd be like vs Russia

[Shiro]

Yeah, but that first match was only test, the second match was a complete win with good old GLA tactics combined with USAF power
However yeah, GLA need a good amount of new toys (and epecially, they need basic ZH things like the Sneak Attack back).

[Pickysaurus]

Yes, the GLA which you can re-activate in ROTR seems to be the one from Classic Gens

And we both know there wouldn't have been such a quick victory without cross teching

[Frostyarmy]

ID like to join you two some time

[Shiro]

Sure, just make a playertemplate.ini called file, paste the following code into it and copy the file into the ZH folder->Data->INI (if something is not there, make it):

CODE

;//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
;FILE: PlayerTemplate.ini (SYSTEM) ///////////////////////////////////////////////////
;//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////


;//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
;Note Note Note Note Note Note Note Note Note Note Note Note Note
;//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
; There is a dependency between the player template member Side and the ControlBarScheme.ini
; files side.  If you add a new side here, make sure the ControlBarScheme.ini contains a new
; control bar with that new side as its side.  Otherwise it will use the Observer8x6 control bar.
; Talk to CLH if there's issues with this.
;//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
;Note Note Note Note Note Note Note Note Note Note Note Note Note
;//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

PlayerTemplate FactionCivilian
  Side              = Civilian
  PlayableSide      = No
  StartMoney        = 0
  PreferredColor    = R:255 G:255 B:255
  IntrinsicSciences = None
  DisplayName       = INI:FactionCivilian
  ScoreScreenMusic  = Score_USA
  ScoreScreenImage  = MutiPlayer_ScoreScreen
  OldFaction        = Yes
End

PlayerTemplate FactionObserver
  Side              = Observer
  PlayableSide      = No
  IsObserver        = Yes
  StartMoney        = 0
  PreferredColor    = R:255 G:255 B:255
  IntrinsicSciences = None
  DisplayName       = INI:FactionObserver
  ScoreScreenImage  = MutiPlayer_ScoreScreen
  LoadScreenImage   = Mp_Load
  LoadScreenMusic   = Load_USA
  ScoreScreenMusic  = Score_USA
  BeaconName        = MultiplayerBeacon
  SideIconImage     = GameinfoOBSRVR
  OldFaction        = Yes; This faction was available in the original Generals and should be available as normal if the oldFactionsOnly flag is set
End

PlayerTemplate FactionAmerica
  Side              = America
  BaseSide          = USA
  PlayableSide      = Yes
  StartMoney        = 0
  PreferredColor    = R:0 G:0 B:255
  IntrinsicSciences = SCIENCE_AMERICA
  PurchaseScienceCommandSetRank1  = SCIENCE_AMERICA_CommandSetRank1
  PurchaseScienceCommandSetRank3  = SCIENCE_AMERICA_CommandSetRank3
  PurchaseScienceCommandSetRank8  = SCIENCE_AMERICA_CommandSetRank8
  SpecialPowerShortcutCommandSet  = SpecialPowerShortcutUSA
  SpecialPowerShortcutWinName     = GenPowersShortcutBarUS.wnd
  SpecialPowerShortcutButtonCount = 12
  DisplayName       = INI:FactionAmerica
  StartingBuilding  = AmericaCommandCenter
  ScoreScreenImage  = America_ScoreScreen
  LoadScreenImage   = SAFactionLogoPage_US
  LoadScreenMusic   = Load_USA
  ScoreScreenMusic  = Score_USA
  FlagWaterMark     = WatermarkUSA
  EnabledImage      = SSObserverUSA
  BeaconName        = MultiplayerBeacon
  SideIconImage     = GameinfoAMRCA
  GeneralImage      = USA_Logo
  OldFaction        = Yes; This faction was available in the original Generals and should be available even if the oldFactionsOnly flag is set
  ArmyTooltip       = TOOLTIP:BioStrategyLong_USA
  Features          = GUI:BioFeatures_USA
  MedallionRegular  = USAGeneral_slvr
  MedallionHilite   = USAGeneral_blue
  MedallionSelect   = USAGeneral_orng
End

PlayerTemplate FactionChina
  Side              = China
  BaseSide          = China
  PlayableSide      = Yes
  StartMoney        = 0
  PreferredColor    = R:255 G:0 B:0
  IntrinsicSciences = SCIENCE_CHINA
  PurchaseScienceCommandSetRank1 = SCIENCE_CHINA_CommandSetRank1
  PurchaseScienceCommandSetRank3 = SCIENCE_CHINA_CommandSetRank3
  PurchaseScienceCommandSetRank8 = SCIENCE_CHINA_CommandSetRank8
  SpecialPowerShortcutCommandSet = SpecialPowerShortcutChina
  SpecialPowerShortcutWinName     = GenPowersShortcutBarChina.wnd
  SpecialPowerShortcutButtonCount = 12
  DisplayName       = INI:FactionChina
  StartingBuilding  = ChinaCommandCenter
  ScoreScreenImage  = China_ScoreScreen
  LoadScreenImage   = SNFactionLogoPage_China
  LoadScreenMusic   = Load_China
  ScoreScreenMusic  = Score_China
  FlagWaterMark     = WatermarkChina
  EnabledImage      = SSObserverChina
  BeaconName        = MultiplayerBeacon
  SideIconImage     = GameinfoCHINA
  GeneralImage      = China_Logo
  OldFaction        = Yes; This faction was available in the original Generals and should be available even if the oldFactionsOnly flag is set
  ArmyTooltip       = TOOLTIP:BioStrategyLong_China
  Features          = GUI:BioFeatures_China
  MedallionRegular  = ChinaGeneral_slvr
  MedallionHilite   = ChinaGeneral_blue
  MedallionSelect   = ChinaGeneral_orng
End

PlayerTemplate FactionGLA
  Side              = GLA
  BaseSide          = GLA
  PlayableSide      = Yes
  StartMoney        = 0
  PreferredColor    = R:0 G:255 B:0
  IntrinsicSciences = SCIENCE_GLA
  PurchaseScienceCommandSetRank1 = SCIENCE_GLA_CommandSetRank1
  PurchaseScienceCommandSetRank3 = SCIENCE_GLA_CommandSetRank3
  PurchaseScienceCommandSetRank8 = SCIENCE_GLA_CommandSetRank8
  SpecialPowerShortcutCommandSet = SpecialPowerShortcutGLA
  SpecialPowerShortcutWinName     = GenPowersShortcutBarGLA.wnd
  SpecialPowerShortcutButtonCount = 12
  DisplayName       = INI:FactionGLA
  StartingBuilding  = GLACommandCenter
  ScoreScreenImage  = GLA_ScoreScreen
  LoadScreenImage   = SUFactionLogoPage_GLA
  LoadScreenMusic   = Load_GLA
  ScoreScreenMusic  = Score_GLA
  FlagWaterMark     = WatermarkGLA
  EnabledImage      = SSObserverGLA
  BeaconName        = MultiplayerBeacon
  SideIconImage     = GameinfoGLA
  GeneralImage      = GLA_Logo
  OldFaction        = Yes; This faction was available in the original Generals and should be available even if the oldFactionsOnly flag is set
  ArmyTooltip       = TOOLTIP:BioStrategyLong_GLA
  Features          = GUI:BioFeatures_GLA
  MedallionRegular  = GLAGeneral_slvr
  MedallionHilite   = GLAGeneral_blue
  MedallionSelect   = GLAGeneral_orng
End

;;;This are actualy the russians but they are named as the Laser general to make them work on unofficial ZH Maps
PlayerTemplate FactionAmericaLaserGeneral
  Side              = AmericaLaserGeneral
  BaseSide          = Russia
  PlayableSide      = Yes
  StartMoney        = 0
  PreferredColor    = R:255 G:0 B:0
  IntrinsicSciences = SCIENCE_Russia
  PurchaseScienceCommandSetRank1 = SCIENCE_Russia_CommandSetRank1
  PurchaseScienceCommandSetRank3 = SCIENCE_Russia_CommandSetRank3
  PurchaseScienceCommandSetRank8 = SCIENCE_Russia_CommandSetRank8
  SpecialPowerShortcutCommandSet = SpecialPowerShortcutRussia
  SpecialPowerShortcutWinName     = GenPowersShortcutBarRussia.wnd
  SpecialPowerShortcutButtonCount = 12
  DisplayName       = INI:FactionRussia
  StartingBuilding  = RussiaCommandCenter
  ScoreScreenImage  = Russia_ScoreScreen
  LoadScreenImage   = GameinfoRussia
  LoadScreenMusic   = Load_Russia
  ScoreScreenMusic  = Score_Russia
  FlagWaterMark     = WatermarkRussia
  EnabledImage      = SSObserverRussia
  BeaconName        = MultiplayerBeacon
  SideIconImage     = GameinfoRussia
  GeneralImage      = Russia_Logo
  OldFaction        = Yes
  ArmyTooltip       = TOOLTIP:BioStrategyLong_Russia
  Features          = GUI:BioFeatures_Russia
  MedallionRegular  = GLAGeneral_slvr
  MedallionHilite   = GLAGeneral_blue
  MedallionSelect   = GLAGeneral_orng
End

You can as well extract playertemplate.ini form the ROTR files and delete all ; in front of the GLA entry instead of making up a new file, then proceed as before, as it does prolly the same.

This post has been edited by KamuiK: 8 Oct 2009, 18:01

[Pickysaurus]

ID like to join you two some time

I'd have no problem with that, could be fun :3

Sentinels and Tunnels = Win
As KamuiK discovered

[Shiro]

Indeed, crossteching GLA and Russia is HIGHLY effective, even more than GLA + China or USA. Russia brings the cheap yet more effective than GLA counterparts infantry and Mass Production (as well as way better vehicles), while GLA bring in money and several good units (for their prices) being even better when mass-produced and the Tunnels. Think about a whole horde of Russian vehicles, especially things like Tesla Tanks, Golems and Sentinels coming out of a tunnel next to your base. You gotta HAVE to run.