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How to defends against USA as ECA?, That air spam.
Brobtnik
post 14 Nov 2018, 0:36
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So, I've been going up against USA as ECA and I can't for the life of me defend against them. My defensive lines and warhounds gets blown away by airplane spam with helicopter support faster than I can replace them, I've tried both skyshield concentrations and wotan defenses but nothing can stop their airforce before it blows away my stuff and bleeds me to death. On top of that, the AI also sends in artillery and infantry with grenade launchers to engage my defenses outside of their range and grand mortars can't get rid of them fast enough. To me it looks like in the current public build (187.2.0) USA is just broken, but I really wanna be wrong about this, so, what do I do guys?
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post 14 Nov 2018, 1:39
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Generally posting:
What map
What faction (You said ECA vs US)
What difficulty
What starting money

Would be beneficial
However fortifications with felins should always be solid counter to anything the US can throw that isnt a microwave tank
Chaff for bloodhounds should protect you against most of the damage air can do, mix in with warhounds,field commands etc you should be fine


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post 14 Nov 2018, 1:58
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QUOTE ((USA)Bruce @ 14 Nov 2018, 1:39) *
Generally posting:
What map
What faction (You said ECA vs US)
What difficulty
What starting money

Would be beneficial
However fortifications with felins should always be solid counter to anything the US can throw that isnt a microwave tank
Chaff for bloodhounds should protect you against most of the damage air can do, mix in with warhounds,field commands etc you should be fine

volcanic island, hard, 20000 starting cash, and yeah, ECA vs USA.
I'll look into what you said.
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post 15 Nov 2018, 16:05
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So I checked the bloodhounds out, and, wow, automatic chaff launchers that triggers upon missile detection huh. And it comes with the munitions track that can go hull down too.
Yeah, okay, I love this, so good. Now that I'm on the subject, what does GLA do against China? They sorta keep sending waves of inferno cannons after each wave to toast all my stuff.
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post 15 Nov 2018, 21:25
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QUOTE (Brobtnik @ 15 Nov 2018, 18:05) *
So I checked the bloodhounds out, and, wow, automatic chaff launchers that triggers upon missile detection huh. And it comes with the munitions track that can go hull down too.
Yeah, okay, I love this, so good. Now that I'm on the subject, what does GLA do against China? They sorta keep sending waves of inferno cannons after each wave to toast all my stuff.


Try buggies till you get grads, then build lines like two or three lines of tunnel networks (80% fortified and 20% stealthed) and grad pop/creep with urals on the sidelines to take out air till you got enough eco and money to spam nothing but fully upgraded scoprions
Best trash unit in the game


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post 19 Nov 2018, 21:28
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Oddly, the faction that I find most powerful against USA is the GLA. Their defenses have a lot of health with fortification and can respawn after being crushed by powers, scrambler stations can hide workers, and ural trucks and stingers makes short work of enemy air. I mean, fighting aircrafts on the ground was half of their entire war, you'd think they'd be pretty good at it.
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post 20 Nov 2018, 12:01
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Rushing with ECA is a solid counter against USA AI. You usually do it with your first two dozers + Field Command near enemy base + Barracks. Remember to build one barracks in your base as soon a possible to research Armory Expansion (wich gives your felins AA capabilites) take advantage that T0 to T1 USA units usually suck and base crawl inside her base or try to tech up as soon as possible. Also remember to grab all the supplies you could find, the AI should ignore those while it focus on the units inside her base and focus on tech building, specially the strategy center, wich allows the AI to field Enforcers and Nighthawks. Finally, ECA's hero is great against USA, they detection units sucks and all the defenses needs power like Russia.


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post 7 Dec 2018, 12:29
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How do I do it:
Wotan' Lot of them. And sensors as well. Skyshield too. A lot of everything. Then some regular defences, and you should be just fine.
Until he builds superweapons, but that's story for another day.
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