Query regarding tier 2 anti aircraft weapons, to avoid overkill |
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Query regarding tier 2 anti aircraft weapons, to avoid overkill |
 31 Mar 2015, 18:03
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 Group: Members Posts: 508 Joined: 1 March 2014 Member No.: 10323  |
As we know that most of the weapons do over kill in ROTR, especially the tier 2 anti aircraft weapons. So, is it possible to re-code their missiles such that if the primary target gets destroyed, launched missiles lock on to another target in the vicinity as they have successfully implemented in the Contra mod?
Here is the link: http://www.moddb.com/mods/contra/images/yanwang1 |
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31 Mar 2015, 18:06
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Group: Members Posts: 650 Joined: 1 March 2014 Member No.: 10319 |
Too good to be balanced...
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31 Mar 2015, 18:35
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 AI Coding Expert  Group: Dev. Team Posts: 1846 Joined: 9 May 2014 From: Poland Member No.: 10450 |
But this is not Contra...
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31 Mar 2015, 18:36
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 Platoon 7, Gallian militia Group: Members Posts: 389 Joined: 22 October 2014 Member No.: 10697 never go full tumblr |
IIRC, it's been explained before that attempting to implement this could only be done at the cost of hindering or removing other game mechanics. :c
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31 Mar 2015, 18:47
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 Arena maker  Group: Tester Posts: 803 Joined: 24 November 2013 From: In front of da screen Member No.: 10203 |
again this topic....
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-game anyone? The Hunter - Nobody wants to play bombtruck simulator with you |
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31 Mar 2015, 19:05
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 Group: Tester Posts: 1833 Joined: 29 May 2012 Member No.: 9155 |
It's possible.
It'll look goofy. Hence it's not going to happen according to Devs. |
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31 Mar 2015, 19:09
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 Lazy Cookie Monster Group: Members Posts: 181 Joined: 3 May 2014 From: Spain Member No.: 10435 |
Oh yeah, I remember this one topic along with the multi-targeting system. It's a nice addition, however, the justification not to implement it was even more so acceptable.
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31 Mar 2015, 20:43
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Group: Members Posts: 233 Joined: 29 September 2013 Member No.: 10149 |
I think it would be cool maybe for 1 or 2 units, kind of as a special thing they have.
But I don't know which problems such an implication would cause. -------------------- |
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 31 Mar 2015, 20:44
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 Group: Dev. Team Posts: 1242 Joined: 26 July 2014 Member No.: 10559 |
QUOTE (Knjaz. @ 31 Mar 2015, 22:35)  It's possible. It'll look goofy. Hence it's not going to happen according to Devs. Could you make a patch for it after the release? 
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31 Mar 2015, 21:13
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 Group: Members Posts: 71 Joined: 1 January 2015 From: Pakistan Member No.: 10798 |
Tier 2 anti air do over killing................. because for them shooting the dead is sweet thing
 ................just to make sure its dead 
-------------------- In War it is not determined who is right, but who is left!
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31 Mar 2015, 21:47
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 Losing Karma to Vault Boy Group: Tester Posts: 1302 Joined: 7 June 2009 From: Canada/S.Korea Member No.: 34 Some future plan mod for AoE3:Asian Dynasty or FO4 |
QUOTE (MPGM @ 31 Mar 2015, 15:44) Could you make a patch for it after the release? That not gonna happen. --------------------  Let's kick this Russian Tank's ass back to the Bronze Age! Twitch Chart ID: Mr_kim82 Moddb ID: Mr_Kim |
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31 Mar 2015, 21:55
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Arena maker Group: Tester Posts: 803 Joined: 24 November 2013 From: In front of da screen Member No.: 10203 |
It's been said already... for that system to work, the damage types need to be redesigned. One has to know that there is a limited number of damage types in the game yet a lot of different units. These damage types have to be carefully allocated so this is one of the main reason why it's not going to happen in this mod.
Use T0 AA, all factions have upgrades for them and in large numbers they can perform surprisingly well. -------------------- XAttus
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31 Mar 2015, 22:57
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 The Forums American Hotshot Flyboy Group: Tester Posts: 2859 Joined: 22 November 2012 From: The foundation of modern freedom and Liberty;United States of America. Member No.: 9500 |
QUOTE (Kazan @ 31 Mar 2015, 20:03) As we know that most of the weapons do over kill in ROTR, especially the tier 2 anti aircraft weapons. So, is it possible to re-code their missiles such that if the primary target gets destroyed, launched missiles lock on to another target in the vicinity as they have successfully implemented in the Contra mod? Here is the link: http://www.moddb.com/mods/contra/images/yanwang1 This would be a bad idea if it were possible. YES it is possible with sage but we'd have to sacrifice other mechanics in order to get this to work.Same with the multitargeting via fixed wing jets. Not only that the grumbles delay from -target detected- to -Impact- is its primary weakness..Its INTENDED to do that.Otherwise with no overkill it would be the best antiair....EVAR Russia already contests the skys by cliping the wings of US raptors for example so hinds and other helis can charge in freely In 1v1 maps they can shoot your birds from their base to yours  This would be so broken even if it were feesibly bro --------------------  |
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31 Mar 2015, 23:08
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Group: Dev. Team Posts: 1242 Joined: 26 July 2014 Member No.: 10559 |
Just "Twin Fangs" and "Wotans" don't do overkills. The other do.
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31 Mar 2015, 23:39
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The Forums American Hotshot Flyboy Group: Tester Posts: 2859 Joined: 22 November 2012 From: The foundation of modern freedom and Liberty;United States of America. Member No.: 9500 |
^yes but the twingfang has a slow rate of fire unless it benefits from horde bonus and prop and has the shortest range
While the wotan has the lowest damage but highest rate of fire,plus it can fire on the move.It all checks out in the end -------------------- |
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31 Mar 2015, 23:46
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 Group: Members Posts: 1863 Joined: 17 April 2012 Member No.: 9081 |
I thought Twingfangs don't benefit from horde bonus,rather units around it.
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1 Apr 2015, 7:01
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Group: Members Posts: 508 Joined: 1 March 2014 Member No.: 10323 |
I got your point, guys! Thanks for your replies!
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1 Apr 2015, 7:07
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Losing Karma to Vault Boy Group: Tester Posts: 1302 Joined: 7 June 2009 From: Canada/S.Korea Member No.: 34 Some future plan mod for AoE3:Asian Dynasty or FO4 |
QUOTE (re_simeone @ 31 Mar 2015, 18:46) I thought Twingfangs don't benefit from horde bonus,rather units around it. Consider that Twinfangs, Overload Tank, Troop Clrawer, and Nuke Cannon are not benefit Horde Bonus. This is only visual effect. -------------------- Let's kick this Russian Tank's ass back to the Bronze Age! Twitch Chart ID: Mr_kim82 Moddb ID: Mr_Kim |
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