"Super units", ECA protocol units, Russian blackbear sentinel Options

[Sergeant Freedom]

Any word on what USA "super unit" will be?




(sorry for info fish)





This post has been edited by Sergeant Freedom: 29 Aug 2016, 2:50

[{Lads}RikerZZZ]

The latest word is that USA will not be getting a super unit, neither will GLA or China.

This post has been edited by {Lads}RikerZZZ: 29 Aug 2016, 3:23

[GeneralCamo]

Super units? What is this, Contra?

ROTR does not have any super units in the traditional sense. Even those two units you mentioned are stretching the definition of "super" unit, as they both are mostly support units meant to complement an army, not BE the army.

This post has been edited by GeneralCamo: 29 Aug 2016, 3:23

[8igDaddy8lake]

I mean...I would kinda sorta consider the Spectre Gunship to be the USA equivalent of a "super unit."

[MARS]

The ECA protocol units and Russian Black Bear aren't really super units in the way you would imagine super units from the common depiction of such things in other mods/games. Contras bizarro monster units and the Redeemer, MARV and alien bug thing from TWKW would be better described as super units, because the limited units in ROTR still require support around them, or else they still die quickly. The idea for them is also born more out of the ECA's and Russia's lore, than strict 'this is required' design plans. From the start, the ECA was conceived as a faction with modern, but basically 'Boring but Practical' hardware, which has to hold out for as long as possible in order to turn the tide with a large counter offensive supported by experimental high-tech weapons. For Russia, the Black Bear represents the absolute elite of their tank forces, crews that have been in combat since the start of the war - or even gained experienced before that - who have attained a reputation of eliteness and infamy as 'Sentinel Aces', similar to German WW2 Tiger Aces. The US, China and GLA simply don't offer story elements that could be believably turned into what are in a way 'Tier 3' units nor do they fit their tactical themes much: China is the spam faction where the single heaviest, most survivable ground vehicles would be Overlord and Shenlongs that still work best in support and with support of a horde, the US tend to have a high-tech and experience element throughout their entire design and are not desperate enough to deploy prototypes/inflate 'hero' reputations and the GLA is a bunch of crazies who just build whatever they can in a day's worth and call it a combat vehicle.

[rey]

for some reason i feel like he was asking not really about super-unit but smt to handle heavies: China=Overs and Shens, ECA=Pandora,Manticore, Russia= Sentinels, BlackBear, even GLA kinda acquired "heavy" via Hooks...

[X1Destroy]

USA already have an answer to all of that. It's called "Microwave tanks and Raptors".

Anything sort of a super heavy tank wouldn't fit in with theirs asymmetrical combat doctrine.

This post has been edited by X1Destroy: 29 Aug 2016, 12:01

[Hecthor Doomhamm...]

China has Volunteer Squads.... nuff said

[The_Hunter]

Try AT Drones and watch Sentinels attempt run in fear.

[Arc]

Never forget the power of a single AT Drone... -someone... probably Rik

[Zion]

I agree, we need China UberLord... absolutely no reason not too. Usa needs KingRaptor, more armor, more ammo. GLA doesn't get Shit

[X1Destroy]

That is true only if the enemy forgot to bring conscripts and just send the Sentinels to the fray alone.

[Marakar]

I agree, we need China UberLord... absolutely no reason not too. Usa needs KingRaptor, more armor, more ammo. GLA doesn't get Shit

GLA doesn't get Shit

Behold, the GLA super unit for the price of 900 and an upgrade that costs 1,000, you'll be able to kill every single unit in the game.


"BUT WAIT, WHAT ABOUT MUH AIR UNITS???? THEY COUNTER BUGGIES RIGHT???"




Also Ural Truck but since when did GLA have more than 2 units in their Arms Dealer?

This post has been edited by Marakar: 29 Aug 2016, 16:55

[GeneralAziz]

Oh funny , Bring buggies here.. i`ll bring 3 of those


Lets see your 20 buggies if they can touch my army , With some dragons & shenlongs and battlemasters OR camp with nukecannons and spam sec eco!

Nothing GLA`s plastic units can do.

back to the topic , Only superlike units in the game are the ones u named habibi :}

This post has been edited by GeneralAziz: 29 Aug 2016, 17:06

[Marakar]

Mortar Mode.


I don't dislike GLA, its more just a case of Buggies rather than the faction for me. Besides, if China had no ECM Tank...imagine the horror GLA would be for the China player.

But really, Buggies are the super units of GLA other than Heroic Double Barrel Marauder.

This post has been edited by Marakar: 29 Aug 2016, 17:08

[GeneralAziz]

Move , Mortar is slow& not accurate ^^ XD

Heroic Double Barrel Marauder , Yes they r great , But but again a heroic gat overloard would be up with it too or a sent from russia

This post has been edited by GeneralAziz: 29 Aug 2016, 17:09

[Emin96]

Any word on what USA "super unit" will be?




(sorry for info fish)

Usa will never get super unit, i will give you example of how destroy sentinel
4 RAPTOR can destroy 1 sentinel +
Sentinels are high cost and slow
Raptor are fast and effective
USA dont need for that, it would make only OP USA

[General Scrapstr...]

we need China UberLord... absolutely no reason not too.

There already is a super tank used by Uber drivers but it is in another SWR mod, so it will most likely not be added


This post has been edited by General Scrapstrike: 29 Aug 2016, 20:59

[ZunZero97]

Move , Mortar is slow& not accurate ^^ XD

Heroic Double Barrel Marauder , Yes they r great , But but again a heroic gat overloard would be up with it too or a sent from russia

im agree with this, mortars are slow against ECM weapons.

[Knjaz.]

The latest word is that USA will not be getting a super unit, neither will GLA or China.

Also, the Russia's super-unit is a by-product of a new Rank 5 GP. Faction needed a GP that would work as Rank 5 given the faction theme/capabilities/gameplay, and it got one.

[hawkseye17]

The latest word is that USA will not be getting a super unit, neither will GLA or China.

Doesn't China have an overlord?

[MARS]

The Overlord isn't a super-unit, in the same way as the Sentinel also isn't one. These are heavy tanks that you can mass produce, in the same way as the US and GLA can mass produce Paladins and Marauders which may not be considered 'heavy' but are more akin to advanced MBTs. A super unit is generally understood to be massively powerful on its own, with some form of special access requirement (like ECA protocols/Russian Black Bear needing to be unlocked at rank 5 first) and being numerically limited in-game.

[Star_Abraham]

USA with an aircraft with some kind of weapon with Tomahawk cruise mode range.

That'l fill that niche nicely, but probably be incredibly annoying. Though it would make an interesting anti-anti air unit.

[Shiro]

Flying artillery will always be OP though. TW gave a good example.

[X1Destroy]

I kinda want an air unit that draw fire all to itself and preventing the enemy from hitting other unit like the Anvil bot. Should also have some annoying abilities to screw around.

Sure there is the TMD, but it's not buildable. And force firing can ignore the flares.

This post has been edited by X1Destroy: 31 Aug 2016, 0:45