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post 15 May 2010, 18:59
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Doesn't looks like a Abrams to me.

125mm gun (155mm rumoured), autoloader, modular amour, active lazer defence.

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post 15 May 2010, 22:05
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does not look like an abrams to me tooo


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post 16 May 2010, 18:50
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Abrams rip-off? meh...
it looks more like T-72 rip-off, like this Croatian M-95 Degman which comes from licenced T-72like line...


T-72M4CZ - recent Czech modernization with hi-tech equipment


PT-91M Pendekar - successor of PT-91 Twardy (Tough), Polish version of T-72M from early 1990's

author: MyLifeStory @ Flickr and Wikipedia.org

T-90 - notoriously known old Russian tank, there is also mysterious "T-95", light tank destroyer Sprut-SD and plenty of modernizations of other Russian tanks
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm..._russia_011.jpg

Serbian modernization of the T-72

photo by: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Marko_M

T-72MP, designated by 3 companies from UA and CZ, UA forces use several hundred of these, T-80s and T-60s, both older lines modernized on T-72MP standards


Also don't forget these medium (and heavy) tanks have autoloaders, they can fire armor-piercing missiles capable of destruction of any modern tank including Challenger 2, however they haven't been created for this purpose. This was task for Mi-28, Mi-24 or Ka-50 which would have been covering relativelly fast tanks (Warszav Pact forces were more like RA Allieds in conventional forces).

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post 18 May 2010, 9:57
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post 18 May 2010, 10:37
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What's with the F-35 Lightning II-lookalike?


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post 18 May 2010, 11:07
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QUOTE (Destiny @ 18 May 2010, 15:37) *
What's with the F-35 Lightning II-lookalike?

...are you dense? That's the real stuff, brotha.

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post 18 May 2010, 12:54
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QUOTE (Waris @ 18 May 2010, 15:07) *
...are you dense? That's the real stuff, brotha.

I am dense, but still. It looks...different. I don't know how to put it...


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post 18 May 2010, 21:19
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The reddish hue of the cockpit glass and the dark grey paint do look unusual; kind of like an evil twin of the F-35 we're used to.
Disregarding the US markings, it looks like something Nod would use in Tiberian Dawn (Nod had F-22s in some of the cutscenes)
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post 19 May 2010, 0:05
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QUOTE (MARS @ 18 May 2010, 18:19) *
The reddish hue of the cockpit glass and the dark grey paint do look unusual; kind of like an evil twin of the F-35 we're used to.
Disregarding the US markings, it looks like something Nod would use in Tiberian Dawn (Nod had F-22s in some of the cutscenes)

I am pretty sure the tint is a anti EMP shield, just like the goldish red cockpit that F22 have.


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post 19 May 2010, 2:21
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QUOTE (ΓΛPΤΘΓ @ 19 May 2010, 4:05) *
I am pretty sure the tint is a anti EMP shield, just like the goldish red cockpit that F22 have.

Anti-EMP? What??

Also I read from the F-117's wiki article it says gold stuff in the cockpit is used somehow for stealth.


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post 19 May 2010, 5:29
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F-35 color scheme somehow reminds me about the B-1B color scheme of Shockwave :S. The last T-50 photos is frikin awesome biggrin.gif


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post 19 May 2010, 11:51
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post 19 May 2010, 13:33
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Awesome PAK-FA shots. biggrin.gif

QUOTE (GrizzAFWX @ 19 May 2010, 15:51) *


Something tells me that it can be fairly imperative that aerial warfare will be mainly fought with robots UAVs (at least on what I've read/seen). But when technology fails, sometimes you'll have to go back to the old means.


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post 19 May 2010, 19:00
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I'm pretty sure someone will come up with anti-uav technology and the human element will be forced in eventually.


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post 19 May 2010, 20:40
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Radar Jammer anyone? av-7.gif

Anyways, PakFa can deal with several targets at once (due to recoil limits) while one UAV swarm (100 UAVs for example) piloted by one operator can deal with...
Another thing is that modern manned fighter/bombardier can be hundred miles away from target when fire, but UAVs are used mostly on close operations like support of ground forces (like UAV launched from a truck, personal VTOL UAVs are also common). Air version of military RC robots like American "Little Knight" (small size, tracks, M60, Google has parkinsonism again).

Also, would you like to arm Global Hawk with nuclear missiles and expect real SkyNet worm/supercomputer or terrorist cracker on move ?

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post 19 May 2010, 21:40
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That pictures was just a joke. Generally I'm all for aircraft of the manned variety.
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post 19 May 2010, 21:44
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And they called it...

A flying snow shovel... or a loaf of french bread with wings...



10 points to anyone who can name this unwieldy aircraft.
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post 20 May 2010, 3:23
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QUOTE (GrizzAFWX @ 20 May 2010, 1:44) *
And they called it...

A flying snow shovel... or a loaf of french bread with wings...



10 points to anyone who can name this unwieldy aircraft.

Tacit Blue.


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post 20 May 2010, 4:03
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Looks like an airplane model for a SEGA Saturn game.


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post 20 May 2010, 5:45
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A new PAK-FA video on youtube


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QUOTE (Destiny @ 19 May 2010, 18:23) *
Tacit Blue.



That is correct. 10 Points.
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QUOTE (GrizzAFWX @ 20 May 2010, 10:05) *
That is correct. 10 Points.

You could at least find a way to randomize the filename XD.gif


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post 21 May 2010, 7:19
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QUOTE (Destiny @ 20 May 2010, 1:25) *
You could at least find a way to randomize the filename XD.gif


DOH! XD.gif I didn't even think about that!
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post 26 May 2010, 4:11
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Discuss. I am most perplexed at how the commission report is unsigned and the denial of access of evidence to the convicted party (NK).


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That's not the whole thing either.

Former CIA officer on Iran

The US has been trying to isolate and squeeze Iran until it bites and the US can use a pretext to go to war again. Although it is more likely to make a convenient excuse to make Israel do the dirty work for them while they stay on the side lines.

Let's face it, North Korea and Iran are no saints. However we should not allow more Afghanistans and Iraqs to be made again. More people have suffered and have been killed by american interference than the overthrown regimes. The same strategy was made there, except Korea is actually a reasonable nation leaving much room for conspiracy theories. Are they playing along or are they being fooled like the rest of the world? Why is NK keeping their mouths shut? Do they want to take credit for something they did not do?

Anyways in the end the point is that we must tolerate lesser evils to prevent greater ones. Besides more wars would just cause the world economy to get worse and make more people suffer. Enough do in this world already.


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