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post 26 May 2010, 14:08
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QUOTE (Overdose @ 26 May 2010, 10:42) *
Why is NK keeping their mouths shut? Do they want to take credit for something they did not do?

...they have been vehemently denying their involvement in the Cheonan sinking incident. They even offered to review the evidence pieces themselves, but they've been denied access.


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post 26 May 2010, 14:24
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I wasn't even aware that happened. Well, it hasn't been the first time that the press has conveniently forgotten to report something.


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post 26 May 2010, 22:01
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QUOTE (Overdose @ 26 May 2010, 8:42) *
Anyways in the end the point is that we must tolerate lesser evils to prevent greater ones.


Agreed. I don't think US would ever commit itself for a war with NK since AFAIK thers no strategic value in it for them other than the fact that Japan and SK would become unstable. If there was oil, then i guess US would have attacked a longtime ago.




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post 27 May 2010, 16:28
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This ^
+ The US Army is in Afghanistan and Iraq, so there is no need for new war, yet.

Another reasons why Americans don't start war with the NK is Stalinistic fanatism of the huge army, China and Russia.
China neither Russia would like to have American base behind their backs.

Some conflicts were (are) totally pointless, but most of them have some sense (territory(Kosovo), oil (Iraq), ore (Kongo), water (Palestina)).
One of such pointless conflicts was border conflict on the Ussuri River, exactly one small island. Cold conflict started in 1960's and totally ended in 2008 (2009?),
but hot phase wasn't nice. In 1969 Soviets lost several hundred soldiers (including crews of tanks and armoured vehicles), chinese lost at least 10 000 soldiers (official Soviet sources: 50 000), I don't know how many Soviet (Russian and Kazakh) civilians died there, it could be hundreds, it could be thousands. Anyways Chinese were doing atrocities there and response from Brezhnev to Mao were BM-21, some of them using air-fuel (there was situation when Chinese soldiers were using living shields, so few rockets evaporated these soldiers and (some) civilians survived).

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post 29 May 2010, 17:27
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in b4
>Panzer Fast

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post 29 May 2010, 19:34
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Interesting "read", thanks.


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post 29 May 2010, 19:38
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in b4
>Panzer Fast

XD.gif

That's almost as bad as the omnipresent miss-spelling of 'Panzerschreck' in CoD WaW.
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QUOTE (MARS @ 29 May 2010, 16:38) *
in b4
>Panzer Fast

XD.gif

That's almost as bad as the omnipresent miss-spelling of 'Panzerschreck' in CoD WaW.

You miss understood.

The Panzer Fast they are referring to is the M18 Hellcat. That Pazner is Fast.


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post 30 May 2010, 1:18
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We call them tanks, not panzers I8.gif


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post 30 May 2010, 6:55
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interesting.....any pages on the jets used?

@partyzanPaulZy one more reason is that, NK had until recently the world's largest special forces contingent. May its the case even now.


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post 31 May 2010, 14:39
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post 4 Oct 2010, 8:38
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This is something that makes me sad but i may not know the full story. So... lets talk...
I just saw on the news that 3 aussie troops are be charge with killing a few kids. (sad days) troops killing kids is not something you want your army to do. BUT!!! I also did a little reading here and where and found out it was a accented.

what I can tell some troops where fired on and returned fire and tost a nade in a house and tost a second nade to make sure who ever was shooting at them was dead. but when they enter the house they found out they was kids inside. (sad days)

To the best of my know how. It was a accented. bought on by a man that starting shooting from inside a house with kids in it. but I was not there, so it could be something more... lets say dark.

Discuss:

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ref: http://australianetworknews.com/stories/20...893.htm?desktop

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First off sry for the doulbe post but given the time gap, I hope the SWR team forgive it.

BIG...ish news. I hear this morning that UK and France have signed a mility allaince for 50 years. not only that also they also sign a other 50 year agreement to shared Nuke tech.

I dont know the full story and only just hear the tail end of the news report... maybe someone esle can explain some more.

P.S one step closer to the ECA tongue.gif


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post 4 Nov 2010, 10:16
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In b4 Entente Cordiale.
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post 7 Nov 2010, 8:33
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In other news Cruzex was hosted for the 5th time.

Brazil, France, China, US and Chile undertook coalition air force exercises.


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I wonder what will happen if Russia really returns to Afghanistan... China joins them and gets attack (again) by G... Al Qaida, the Holy World War against moslims (because no moslims invaded Afghanistan) fitting in Baba Vanga prophecies?

Maybe Chinese will just stay aside, building railways, highways, possition on the market while destroying old companies via "the invisible hand of the market" across whole Eurafrasia... (the last one applies for whole world anyways)

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post 9 Nov 2010, 20:51
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Russian involvement in Afghanistan... Russia in general is still a sensitive topic in Afghanistan. It's not like they occupied the Afghans for a decade and gave rise to the Taliban...


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ok wut
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=20113


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Ja, saw that today. I hope it's a US ICBM 'black launch' because if it's not, than all arrows pretty much point towards China, and maybe a single arrow towards Russia. China certainly has the nads and the reason to do it (US fiscal policy with QE2 and pressure on China to let the Yuan rise), but even then it's still improbable and really rather odd.

If it's not the US I actually hope they don't figure it out, as a global shitstorm would ensue if they ever found out it was another country.

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post 22 Nov 2010, 0:37
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A few notes here today.

Afgan!
Just heard that the pull out date (combat role) for all involed is 2014. So these a bit of military news for a few contries

Nato - Russia
I am not sure what the real story is here but i heard that Russia and Nato and about to enter talk about joining forces.
(side note) I think this is funny because Nato was a anti-Russian allaince, But never the less a good forward step in world politic's

Missle Defence/ USA-Russia
Again I only just hear the iceberg of this news but my understanding is Russia will be a equil part of this Eurpoen Missle Defence network.

thats all for now...


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post 22 Nov 2010, 9:33
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``Russia will be a equil part of this Eurpoen Missle Defence network.´´

As it should have been in the first place. Their anger towards the original concept which was basically 'let's set up this missile defence in central/eastern Europe to piss off the Russians and pretend it's actually all about Iran' was more than justified so it's good to see that someone has finally realised that the Warsaw Pact has kicked the bucket 20 years ago and that Russia should not be treated as the default enemy of western civilisation for all eternity until the reptilian space aliens show up or some shit.
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post 23 Nov 2010, 17:28
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North Korea carpet bombed a South Korean island. Property damage and minor civilian casualties.

It will be interesting if the United States will take a bite out of this hook. I don't think they can afford financially another war and we are not sure how China is reacting to this.



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post 23 Nov 2010, 21:02
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Eventually, North Korea, in its constant endeavour to blackmail the UN into giving them food supplies so they can spend all of their own money on the military, will take things too far, causing this whole thing to boil over into a major conflict. At least common sense would say so, but then I look at all the previous incidents, like when NK bombed half of SK's government on a trip to Rangoon, the commando incursions into SK's territory with the goal of kicking off some kind of insurrection, the tunnels they dug all the way through the DMZ or the sinking of that frigate and I come to the conclusion that this conflict should have escalated into an actual war several times already. Seriously, any other two nations with historical grievances would have gone to war with each other over any ONE of the incidents, except North and South Korea. It's kind of strange when you think about it.
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post 24 Nov 2010, 3:44
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SK is a booming economy. An all out war or any kind of a conflict is not in her interests. It would surely bog down the economy and would be a disaster. NK knows this and pushes the South's patience to the very edge. On the other hand US or the west also has nothing to gain by invading NK since it has no known natural resources. Their only interest is the political stability in the region and also the possible involvement of China.

It is highly unlikely that a war would erupt between the 2 nations, but you never know. If some serious incidents happen, then the SK gov would be pressured into action by her own citizens to maintain their pride. Its a delicate act for SK, to select whether to go to all out war and take back all her development or to swallow a bit of pride and be patient.


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