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Talking About: Rise of the Reds, ...some questions and concerns about ROTR :D
Zeke
post 1 Mar 2018, 15:21
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QUOTE (Chuck Kawosky @ 1 Mar 2018, 21:17) *
why the hell or how the hell can a so called GLA - sneaky/guerrilla warfare faction have an air force!?


Yes, who ever heard of a sneaky guerrilla warfare, that has air units, that's absolutely ridiculous!

I mean, so what if the GLA has been shown to be able to use planes to drop anthrax bombs and various units for the reinforcement pad ever since the first game, that doesn't mean they can just acquire smaller combat aircraft from the various regions under their control. Military airfields are well guarded, there's no way they can do it, it's not like they can literally tunnel in, that's silly, almost as silly as, infiltrating an American base and hijacking a Particle Cannon to cut an aircraft carrier in half, or converting Russian space rockets into WMDs and firing them against populated city centers across Europe and Asia, effectively turning one of mankind's greatest symbols of hope for the future into that of terror, death, and destruction.

C'mon guys the GLA is just a sneaky guerrilla warfare faction, maintaining a small airforce is way out of their league.

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post 1 Mar 2018, 15:26
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Yeah so delet airforce


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post 1 Mar 2018, 16:16
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Seriously guys, a few 50s era Soviet jets, a big transport helicopter with crappy guns attached and some farmer flying bug sprayers is hardly counted as a decent airforce. My country have a big history with guerrilla combat doctrine, was backward as hell in weaponry and they still laugh at that pathetic excuse of an "airforce".

If anything the GLA can and should get better ones if they need. They have hijackers for a reason, don't they?

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post 1 Mar 2018, 19:46
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sneaky tactics guerilla warfare doesnt fit with air force or aircraft so im agree delete the air force arenal to GLA.


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post 1 Mar 2018, 21:02
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QUOTE (ZunZero97 @ 1 Mar 2018, 19:46) *
sneaky tactics guerilla warfare doesnt fit with air force or aircraft so im agree delete the air force arenal to GLA.

Well, so let's delete scorpions, recycler, marauders, anthrax bomb, grads, scrambler mechanic, and cancel half of the stuff planned for 2.0
Chuck and ZunZero, are you having a contest about who will get the dumbest idea, or who has the most trollesque posts?

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QUOTE (Maelstrom @ 1 Mar 2018, 16:02) *
Well, so let's delete scorpions, recycler, marauders, anthrax bomb, grads, scrambler mechanic, and cancel half of the stuff planned for 2.0
Chuck and ZunZero, are you having a contest about who will get the dumbest idea, or who has the most trollesque posts?

You are taking so serious my comment.
Since i know this topic-post is soo ironic.
Dont take my comments so serious mate haha laugh.gif

But seriously close this topic is fully loaded with ironies. sleep.gif

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Hard to be ironic when you can't be serious or literate tho :8


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QUOTE (Chuck Kawosky @ 1 Mar 2018, 10:17) *
GLA should be reverted back to its original roots of a guerrilla type faction.

Yes i also hope that the ECA does NOT end up looking like something out of Tiberium wars either. It should remain mainly as Bruce said... a concrete cold war era type faction with modern weapons etc. Not full of unrealistic Tiberium wars weapons! Stay Defensive.



I agree with you Bro
I particularly see the C & C sagas intertwined in the following evolutionary way: 1) Generals 2) Red Alert 3) Tiberium Wars

Where the problem with terrorist cells lies with the arrival of the Scrins to the planet. I also think negatively against the delivery of C & C Tiberium Twilight, which in my opinion, was a shit.
Tiberian Twilight offers great units but fails to change the game mode.

The future of C & C should be the conquest of space (obviously including wars for planets) as the future lies in the scarcity of resources on planet earth, which would threaten the entire humanity and push human beings into space.
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Hi everyone.

I know I'm not a mod or anything, just that I feel there is no sense in continuing this post. After all, it is essentially a question post which has devolved into a suggestion and "voice your frustrations with things you hate about the ROTR theme post, so perhaps it should just be shut down, especially since many of us know what the #1 rule of the ROTR forums is, though that still isn't clear for some people apparently, or they just take the rules as suggestions...

1. Suggestions.

Before all else, do understand that suggestions for any of the projects of SWR are not wanted right now. Please do not open a topic to write suggestions and please do not add suggestions to an existing topic.



K, I think I've said enough laugh.gif

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post 2 Mar 2018, 2:27
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QUOTE (ZunZero97 @ 2 Mar 2018, 4:24) *
You are taking so serious my comment.
Since i know this topic-post is soo ironic.
Dont take my comments so serious mate haha laugh.gif


1. It's sarcasm, not irony
2. I'm pretty sure, at this point, nobody takes your comments seriously anymore

At topic: I know posting anything further is pointless, since it mostly involves people's tastes, and not actual facts, but I am feeling a bit angry right now, so since this topic is on the rod to being locked anyway, I'll just say this.

Guerrilla warfare is a form of irregular warfare in which a small group of combatants, such as paramilitary personnel, armed civilians, or irregulars, use military tactics including ambushes, sabotage, raids, hit-and-run tactics, and mobility to fight a larger and less-mobile traditional military.

Now what type of highly mobile unit can do ambushes, sabotage, raids, hit and run, and are typically used to fight against a much larger force than itself?

AIRCRAFT

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post 2 Mar 2018, 15:43
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I understand that people are split about the GLA air force thing. However, the whole 'but they are guerrillas, they can't have aircraft' point is moot at least from a story perspective because the GLA does actually control considerable territory in a large part of Africa directly, they have been doing so for decades, they have absorbed actual state militaries and they even have a local economy there, so they are perfectly justified in having access to aircraft, precisely because they have evolved from a non-state terrorist militia to a quasi state entity that controls and administers a territory. The difference between the ZH GLA and the ROTR GLA is similar to that between early 2000s Al Qaeda and ISIS circa 2015, in that the first was mainly a decentralised organisation of semi-independent cells while the second is a much more organised force that managed to actually hold and operate a significant amount of territory for a time.

However, there is also a gameplay dimension to this: If we went back to how things were and removed all GLA air assets, you would have those heavy AA units that all other factions have which would be completely pointless in a matchup against the GLA, because you would never produce a specialised counter to something that you know your enemy cannot have. That would be a case of bad design because you don't want to have things in your factions that are literally useless in certain matchups. Also, if all the air assets were to be removed again, hypothetically, what would you replace them with, to give the GLA roughly the same amount of assets, options and variety of gameplay approaches that the other factions have by virtue of their air units?

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post 6 Mar 2018, 17:16
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QUOTE (ZunZero97 @ 1 Mar 2018, 17:24) *
You are taking so serious my comment.


Hey!! ZunZero97 tú solo quieres sobresalir haciendo quedar como tontos a los demás...
Eso no es lindo de tu parte, y preferí escribirlo en español para que lo entiendas más rápido.

tú solo eres un jugador más y ya, no te pases de listo. wink.gif
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QUOTE (Neutrino @ 28 Feb 2018, 23:25) *
And plus, what sci-fi units are you talking about? The protocol units? Just imagine them as extreme cases. Most ECA units are 'harmonious' with the ECA theme.



Neutrino You're right Bro, the guys already explained it to me in the previous comments.

As for the "harmony" ... it was just foolishness on my part.
Thank you very much for your answer.
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MIZO, (USA)BRUCE, Mars, Zeke...

My question # 5 is more than clear, I understand that about the air units of the GLA and I do not see what to add more.

Boys, thank you for your answers and excuse the comments that went out of the subject.
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post 7 Mar 2018, 16:51
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