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SWR Productions Forum _ Frontline News _ ROTR 1.87 Update 5
Posted by: The_Hunter 10 Sep 2016, 22:57
Didn't think we'd be back so soon would you?
With our updates being rather far and in between we figured we'd let you all enjoy 2 updates this week.
So without further ado, enjoy our second update of this week!
This structure, available after a War Factory or Airfield has been constructed, serves as a command and support center for unmanned ground and air vehicles. Staffed by technicians and other support crew, the facility allows for high-level maintenance and tech support for all drones. The communications equipment at the center is capable of broadcasting general orders to the decision-making software of unmanned combat vehicles, allowing them to shift to and from defensive and offensive postures should the situation call for it. A number of drone related upgrades have also been relocated to this facility. In summary, this structure is a necessity for any American field commander wishing to make full use of their drone arsenal.
And once again, some cool screenshots to show you some of the new stuff:
http://rotr.swr-productions.com/images/screenshots/1.87/Screenshot_187_Drone_CC.jpg
Here is a screenshot of the new Drone Control Center in-game which presently has 3 unique Drone Protocols.
Similar to the Strategy Center Battle Plans, you can always activate one of these at any given time. However, unlike the Strategy Center, these Protocols only confer special effects to drone units, and do not affect the Drone Control Center itself. Also, like the Strategy Center, air units will not be affected by these protocols; Hunter Killers and WASP Hive Drones will not receive any bonuses from these protocols. They along with all drones will receive auto-repairs from the Drone Center however, which has been added to this building and removed from the Advanced Drone Warfare upgrade.
http://rotr.swr-productions.com/images/screenshots/1.87/Screenshot_187_Drones_WF.jpg
In future versions of ROTR, the Drone Assembly Plant will be removed and drones are instead built from the War Factory via a simple production switch.
This way you can set your War Factory to either produce drones or standard vehicles for ease of operation.
And a friendly reminder that this upcoming Sunday, we will be doing another official live stream of the internal beta, which we haven't done since April earlier this year.
The stream will as usually be hosted by Hecthor Doomhammer on his channel: https://www.twitch.tv/pauljongejans
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Posted by: Emin96 10 Sep 2016, 23:23
Awesome update for USA is finally releaved 
Drone Control Center and new protocol is pretty cool stuff
Posted by: X1Destroy 11 Sep 2016, 0:06
Are the plans the same as those from the strategy center?
Looks like the last one isn't about range.
Posted by: {Lads}RikerZZZ 11 Sep 2016, 0:06
So far the most unintentionally game breaking thing thats been added, and i love every second of it
Posted by: Sergeant Freedom 11 Sep 2016, 0:12
two questions:
1. if this building is destroyed will all drones cease functioning?
2. do the bonuses stack up with those from the strategy center?
Posted by: {Lads}RikerZZZ 11 Sep 2016, 0:28
1. if this building is destroyed will all drones cease functioning?
2. do the bonuses stack up with those from the strategy center?
1) No, it behaves exactly like the strat center does with normal units. If you swap battleplans your units will go em for a second and move over to the new plan.
The battle plans also do not effect Hk's and Predator drones.
2) No, they only effect drone units.
Posted by: Sergeant Freedom 11 Sep 2016, 0:41
The battle plans also do not effect Hk's and Predator drones.
2) No, they only effect drone units.
so the strategy center no longer affects drones?
Posted by: Maelstrom 11 Sep 2016, 1:06
It never affected them to begin with
Posted by: Sergeant Freedom 11 Sep 2016, 1:12
seriously?
Posted by: SoraZ 11 Sep 2016, 1:13
It never did.
Posted by: {Lads}RikerZZZ 11 Sep 2016, 1:14
Yes. If you ever want to test it out just change battleplan when you have some drone units. Watch how they don't shutdown and reactivate like every other unit does.
Posted by: re_simeone 11 Sep 2016, 3:27
Never been huge fan of USAs faction, but I like way ROTRs USA is shaping itself
Posted by: Kazan 11 Sep 2016, 5:35
you guys are great when it comes to modelling! much appreciated!
Posted by: IntoTheRain 11 Sep 2016, 22:39
Is this replacing the Detention Camp?
Seems like the easiest way to integrate it into the USA tech tree while making drones more valuable.
Posted by: Maelstrom 11 Sep 2016, 22:49
Nope. It's an alternative way to go to Tier 1
You can build either this or detention camp. Benefits are different. Choose wisely
Posted by: Skitt 11 Sep 2016, 22:49
Seems like the easiest way to integrate it into the USA tech tree while making drones more valuable.
no you still have the detention camp.
Posted by: ZunZero97 12 Sep 2016, 5:54
Now i like more the USA faction, its an amazing work!
Congratulations.
Posted by: M01 12 Sep 2016, 7:17
So while the ECA has two options to which vehicle production facility they would like to choose
USA get's two options which T1 upgrades they would like to prioritize first?
EDIT:
It was mentioned that it will function like a strategy center does it have some animations like the strategy center changing protocols?? (bombardment->cannon)
Posted by: Skitt 12 Sep 2016, 9:21
USA get's two options which T1 upgrades they would like to prioritize first?
EDIT:
It was mentioned that it will function like a strategy center does it have some animations like the strategy center changing protocols?? (bombardment->cannon)
yes to the first
no to the second. no structure change for what drone prot u pick except for the color on the beacon on top.
Posted by: Arc 12 Sep 2016, 10:57
Will there be an obvious indicator when battleplan changes? No, BOMBARDMENT! whenever you turn it on?
Posted by: 3rdShockArmy 12 Sep 2016, 11:10
Updates look outstanding!!! Way to go, team.
I've watched the stream. Damn, it's so hard to play 1.86 (which is already great) when you see even a glimpse of the 7.
New Boris logic looks great, I'm crazy when I see the new Golem, the Yanks are gettin' great logistics capabilities...
If this patch is so awesome, I can't even begin to imagine the 2.0.
BTW, is it just me or the Yanks are gettin' Patriot instead of Chaparral? And is the Eurofighter really interceptable now? If yes, that's great. I was seriously about to write the next Air war in Europe part in which a few Eurofighters are.
Posted by: M01 12 Sep 2016, 12:47
that still counts so yes?
Posted by: Hecthor Doomhammer 12 Sep 2016, 12:54
Indeed, the Chaperal is gone in 1.87 and is replaced by the Patriot
Posted by: Sergeant Freedom 12 Sep 2016, 16:46
Does it have the ability to intercept ballistic missiles like the patriot in real life?
Posted by: X1Destroy 12 Sep 2016, 17:24
What? No more Chapparal? Why?
Posted by: 3rdShockArmy 12 Sep 2016, 17:57
Thanks, Doomy.
Why would anyone be against this change? Patriot is definitely an upgrade to Chapparal, at least visual one, if not even gameplay one, considering that the Patriot is better. Plus, it's an iconic Generals unit, so I think this is a good way to bring it back, while still keeping the Protector as stationary base defense.
Posted by: X1Destroy 12 Sep 2016, 18:10
I never liked the Patriot turret before The Chapparal is a modernized coldwar relic, it is awesome and not overused.
But mostly because I've been using it everytime I play as USA since 1.5. I expected it to have a new model like the Paladin, not this.
Posted by: 3rdShockArmy 12 Sep 2016, 18:31
I agree that Chapparal looks good and all, it's a unique AAA concept for the Yanks (I believe it's not used in other mods), but Patriot might be superior in range. Maybe the Devs made a tradeoff - now, American T2 AA is not mobile while firing, but has longer range. Or, it might just be purely cosmetical.
Posted by: X1Destroy 12 Sep 2016, 18:55
If it have to deploy to fire then it is not a good idea IMO. The Chapparal was supposed to be exclusive to Tank Command. It's just not right, because his gameplay is Armor Cavalry and the and not the Russian slow as hell style.
Or, the plan is changed and the Patriot will be used by other generals and the Chapparal will come back in 2.0.
Posted by: Sergeant Freedom 12 Sep 2016, 19:28
Probably this.
Posted by: MARS 12 Sep 2016, 19:38
The Patriot functions the same way as the Chaparral and the latter is not going to make a comeback.
Posted by: Sergeant Freedom 12 Sep 2016, 19:41
So it is simply a visual change after all.
While we are on the subject is there any word on what the other US general's t2 AA be?
Posted by: X1Destroy 12 Sep 2016, 19:48
2 bad news in a row. How sad.
RIP artillery barrage, RIP Chaparral.
But at least combat chinook is back. And new call in transport ability is awesome.
Posted by: SoraZ 12 Sep 2016, 19:50
While we are on the subject is there any word on what the other US general's t2 AA be?
Yes, the Cyclops, as has been said some time ago. The Patriot comes in addition to that for General Bradley as one his special units, the other Generals don't get anything else.
Posted by: Sergeant Freedom 12 Sep 2016, 20:16
So Bradley will not have the cyclops?
Posted by: Maelstrom 12 Sep 2016, 20:25
Read again
Posted by: ZunZero97 13 Sep 2016, 0:51
Bradley will have Chaparral.
I would like all models are in the game.
Posted by: {Lads}RikerZZZ 13 Sep 2016, 1:18
I would like all models are in the game.
No, he has the Patriot now. (its pretty much the same thing in use)
Posted by: GeneralCamo 13 Sep 2016, 3:22
The Chaparral has been replaced as it looks strange having an ancient cold-war relic driving next to your M1A4 Paladin Tanks. The Patriot by comparison looks much sleeker and more modern than the old Chaparral.
Posted by: X1Destroy 13 Sep 2016, 4:20
But the patriot is just so damn generic looking. And it being a coldwar relic doesn't matter because the ancenstor of the paladin is also the exact samething. It would be beter for it to have the same treatment as the Paladin, better model, new generation vehicle but still look similar to the old one and use the same name.
Posted by: {Lads}RikerZZZ 13 Sep 2016, 4:25
Its gone, get over it
Posted by: GeneralCamo 13 Sep 2016, 4:31
It hasn't even been shown publicly at this point, how do you know?
Posted by: Maelstrom 13 Sep 2016, 8:21
The Hunter streamed while modelling it
Posted by: Rohan 13 Sep 2016, 19:11
So the Tier two Anti Air for the other two USA generals is a building ?
Posted by: The_Hunter 13 Sep 2016, 19:14
Stop the fishing guys.
Posted by: Die Hindenburg 13 Sep 2016, 20:16
The steam was good but the eCA mirror was a bit to filled with wasted potential like the procolos.
Doomhammer was overflooded by hellions though..._..
The patriot has 8 wheels but no tracks???
Posted by: Zion 15 Sep 2016, 16:10
Can someone please remake those icons for the drone strats?
imo they look like rotr 1.0..
get rid of the 90s matrix backgrounds, and as much as i like that boss doomhammer, I feel like those icons are straight from age of empires
my opinion.. I think some people could agree
Posted by: Rohan 15 Sep 2016, 17:25
imo they look like rotr 1.0..
get rid of the 90s matrix backgrounds, and as much as i like that boss doomhammer, I feel like those icons are straight from age of empires
my opinion.. I think some people could agree
Agreed, those icons look ancient.
Posted by: GeneralCamo 16 Sep 2016, 1:11
Have you even played RotR 1.0? Most of the cameos made during that time still exist in-game today, so that would be a good thing for consistency.
Posted by: The_Hunter 16 Sep 2016, 1:31
get rid of the 90s matrix backgrounds, and as much as i like that boss doomhammer, I feel like those icons are straight from age of empires
my opinion.. I think some people could agree
If you're going to bother criticising someones work (I make 99% of the icons in the mod) and can't muster the decency to point out examples or give proper feed back then your "Criticism" has no inherit value at all.
Posted by: Zion 16 Sep 2016, 2:03
lol, i thought you could think of something more clever than a overused mocking line
you dont understand humor.. and get offended, you could of laughed it off
as far as "proper feed back" how about remove the the matrix stuff, its an overused background that was hot back in the day, and when you see this in present seems abit oldschool, replace maybe with some metal textured background, or circuit board, as far as the graphics in the middle.. not sure what the abilities do quite yet, so dont know, the shield looks fine tho
Posted by: Mizo 16 Sep 2016, 2:30
Ain't nobody got time for that.
Posted by: Zion 16 Sep 2016, 2:41
lackey
Posted by: Skitt 16 Sep 2016, 2:44
quite finished making a fool out of yourself?
Posted by: Mizo 16 Sep 2016, 2:48
Drama Queen is at it again , hey didn't you post that you were gonna leave ages ago?
Posted by: Zion 16 Sep 2016, 2:49
nice comeback
Posted by: {Lads}RikerZZZ 16 Sep 2016, 3:01
To be fair most of the ZH And by extension rotr themed upgrade cameos were always cartoony and obviously playing on generic tropes anyway.
If you were gonna nitpick on anything nitpick on the fact that dagger is range rather, than as doom hammer said, spear. Or nitpick that the Strat Centre's Battleplans don't have fitting icons for their abilities and are just different cameos of the building.
Don't nitpick about consistency for the sake of nitpicking, thats just rude man.
Posted by: ZunZero97 16 Sep 2016, 4:28
Hunter if anyone doesnt like your icons or anything else just send them to HELL!
Posted by: {Lads}RikerZZZ 16 Sep 2016, 5:51
Not really.
Xeres is allowed to have his opinion. The devs just don't have to abide by it.
What nobody is allowed to do is cause unnecessary trouble.
Posted by: X1Destroy 16 Sep 2016, 6:56
For me the battleplan cameos are just kinda confusing. The hammer are and the shield obviously pointed to damage and defense, but the twin swords....are what?
Posted by: Zeke 16 Sep 2016, 7:09
Using the process of elimination, one can deduce that the twin swords button is for the range bonus battleplan.
If you want an explanation, swords have slightly longer reach than hammers, especially since you can lunge with them.
Personally, I like the drone battleplan icons. I like the irony of using ancient handheld weapons for futuristic drone upgrades.
Posted by: The_Hunter 16 Sep 2016, 8:03
I'v already updated the two daggers to be Spears.
Also RikkerZZZ is right everyone is allowed to state their own opinion, mister Zion just did so rather poorly.
Posted by: Damfoos 16 Sep 2016, 8:46
I would say green color would fit the Shield better, because green is the color of life and all that. As for replacing Daggers with Spears, it is definitely a good idea.
Posted by: Graion Dilach 16 Sep 2016, 9:43
Except that ROTR already associated defense with blue through ECA, also orange is red+yellow (in RGB, this comes down to orange = red + green) so the contrast is better with blue than with green. And ofc. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OrangeBlueContrast. 
Posted by: Zion 16 Sep 2016, 16:20
here wiped up a concept, if my description was not formal enough. did the best I could with that one available image, and photoshop, where is what I mean by circuit board.
Posted by: Sergeant Freedom 16 Sep 2016, 17:18
How will drones repair themselves if that function has been removed from the advanced drone warfare upgrade?
Posted by: Marakar 16 Sep 2016, 17:23
The effect is granted from the building itself.
Posted by: SoraZ 16 Sep 2016, 17:36
IF building,
THEN drone repair,
ELSE no drone repair.
Posted by: The_Hunter 16 Sep 2016, 17:41
It was, and while i'm not sure if english is your primary language there is a big difference between:
vs what you initialy said:
imo they look like rotr 1.0..
get rid of the 90s matrix backgrounds, and as much as i like that boss doomhammer, I feel like those icons are straight from age of empirese
Which basically boils down "I don't like this fix it it!"
That's actually fairly decent but not necessarily better than the ones we have now.
Its more of a personal preference than an improvement which are two fundamentally different things.
I actually gave it a try to see how it turned out:
Still going to stick with the original ones myself but you're free to make your own sub more or customized texture files using them of course.
Posted by: Zion 16 Sep 2016, 23:04
damn, those look good. I like those, even brings the icons out more. but your choice. thanks for giving my opinion a shot
Posted by: ZunZero97 16 Sep 2016, 23:08
I personally think the swords looks like the hammer so they are 2 icons for offensive, could be better this:
Shield: Armor bonus
Swords: Firepower bonus
Dartboard with arrow: Range Bonus. https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/blanco-de-la-diana-con-la-flecha-78556.jpg
Posted by: 3rdShockArmy 16 Sep 2016, 23:43
A homage to Doomy? Nice!
Posted by: Hecthor Doomhammer 16 Sep 2016, 23:58
Homage for me for DRONAGE 
Posted by: 3rdShockArmy 17 Sep 2016, 0:28
A dronage for Doomy!
Posted by: ZunZero97 17 Sep 2016, 0:47
a really
Posted by: {Lads}RikerZZZ 17 Sep 2016, 1:28
I actually really like the circuit board icons more than the other ones
Posted by: ZunZero97 17 Sep 2016, 3:39
yes is better.
Posted by: MrThirsty247 17 Sep 2016, 9:14
Love it! Great too see real life issues have calmed down and things are again rolling.
Keep up the awesome and as always much appreciated work 
Posted by: Neutronachos 17 Sep 2016, 18:03
O.O Advanced Software upgrade on tier 1 ? That's too strong....
Invisible Hunter Killers yay
Posted by: ZunZero97 18 Sep 2016, 1:25
Invisible Hunter Killers yay
Yes finally drones have buffed.
Posted by: {Lads}RikerZZZ 18 Sep 2016, 7:04
Don't be too sure, the upgrade costs more and they do not benefit from any of the drone related protocols either.
Posted by: ZunZero97 18 Sep 2016, 23:16
Yes, but what I did not like simply rushing with light AA against USA and easy win, drones could be great counter them, because the MBT(Crusader Tank) is on Tier 1.
Posted by: Mizo 19 Sep 2016, 2:27
That's how you slow down USA and then beat em.
Posted by: PiratesYarrr 20 Sep 2016, 11:45
Not to raise the issue again, but has anyone got a link to the stream showing the Patriot? Curious to see the model. Kthnx
Posted by: {Lads}RikerZZZ 20 Sep 2016, 11:57
It hasn't been shown on the public doomhammer stream yet.
it was shown on TheHunters witch, but its no longer in the past broadcasts section.
I'm afraid you'll have to wait till its officially revealed
Posted by: Hecthor Doomhammer 20 Sep 2016, 12:07
I'll do my best to remember next time, because I also want to show off the new Mines and Enforcer as I haven't even seen those in action myself yet.
Posted by: Mr.Kim 20 Sep 2016, 12:10
At least the Patriot's icon was revealed.
Posted by: __CrUsHeR 20 Sep 2016, 16:11
Finally it was done!
The drones deserved a decent polish, it looks fantastic!
I would also say that the new additions of the USA as the back of the Chinook and the new Patriot (I love this name), for example, are very good for the faction.
Posted by: Jester 20 Sep 2016, 22:35
Its nice too see the Chinook back! What is the reason for its return?
Posted by: PiratesYarrr 21 Sep 2016, 1:00
Because we had faith.
Posted by: {Lads}RikerZZZ 21 Sep 2016, 1:46
To my knowledge they were added because usa has been having issues surviving intense harassment.
Posted by: Mizo 21 Sep 2016, 7:01
No, it was always actually planned to be added anyways. ( Referring to the Drone Control Center)
Posted by: TimeBurner 21 Sep 2016, 7:30
Bruvvaaa! Mah face is mah shield!
Posted by: ZunZero97 22 Sep 2016, 3:34
I would like see the new patriot.
Posted by: GeneralCamo 22 Sep 2016, 4:37
And you will... in the official update revealing it.
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