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post 19 Jun 2009, 21:06
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Just wandering if there are plans to add a new boss general - I've already read something about improving the current generals challenge to include new units....


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post 19 Jun 2009, 21:21
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It was hinted somewhere that a new boss general would be made for the Generals Challenge to fill the hole that Leang left when she became one of he playable generals for the Generals Challenge.

It has been a long time since this was last discussed so don't quote me on this.


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post 19 Jun 2009, 21:26
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It'd be cool if the boss general was actually a ROTR General xP


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post 19 Jun 2009, 21:51
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would be funny if it was ECA Royal Guard that would be fun to break through his defenses
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post 19 Jun 2009, 23:29
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I just thought they'd use the three "new" generals as boss generals, like they were originally intended to be.


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post 19 Jun 2009, 23:35
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They aren't ''boss generals'' in the Zero Hour sense anymore. While their rank is still above all the others and the three original faction specific generals refer to them when they lose, they're not meant to be like omnipotent.


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post 20 Jun 2009, 0:00
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QUOTE (C.o.m.m.a.n.d.e.r @ 19 Jun 2009, 18:51) *
would be funny if it was ECA Royal Guard that would be fun to break through his defenses

I agree I8.gif

QUOTE (Shock @ 19 Jun 2009, 20:35) *
They aren't ''boss generals'' in the Zero Hour sense anymore. While their rank is still above all the others and the three original faction specific generals refer to them when they lose, they're not meant to be like omnipotent.


Yeah so they are like to bosses of the factions, not the overall boss... kinda like mini-bosses lol


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post 20 Jun 2009, 3:58
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General Hunter and his Pimpnicals.

Hopefully.


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post 20 Jun 2009, 4:34
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I remember reading about them... would be awesome! biggrin.gif


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post 20 Jun 2009, 4:38
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The point is that the new generals would have an overwhelming advantage at first, more so than the others. Hell, maybe even a little bit of help from other forces...


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post 20 Jun 2009, 14:24
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I was expecting Leang to have the same units and stuff as the original boss general. A little disappointed but was cool to see some new China Units. biggrin.gif


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post 22 Jun 2009, 18:33
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It might be possible to build up some extra maps for DS, Leang and IS, with some heavy script loads to make their attacks somewhat serious. I could imagine that according to your side, you'd get a random roll between China Spec and USA Armor as final boss when you play any GLA side and so on.

As far as I know, there do exist voice samples for Ironside within ZH already, so only DS would be silent throughout his challenge mish tongue.gif

For Leang, you could even use her original map, and just replace the original units from GLA/USA with her new toys. As an intro, I could imagine quite well how she starts an earthquake on a tank column, followed by some Phoneix bombers and napalm badgers :9 An immense task, but a tempting thought.

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post 22 Jun 2009, 21:08
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QUOTE (Alias @ 20 Jun 2009, 1:58) *
General Hunter and his Pimpnicals.

Hopefully.

Then i'd go for the humvee general.

Just have JJ code humvee laming into the AI and we're all set.


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post 23 Jun 2009, 3:29
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QUOTE (accomplice @ 22 Jun 2009, 10:33) *
As far as I know, there do exist voice samples for Ironside within ZH already, so only DS would be silent throughout his challenge mish tongue.gif


Deathstrike does have voice samples within ZH.


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post 23 Jun 2009, 3:39
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QUOTE (accomplice @ 22 Jun 2009, 15:33) *
As far as I know, there do exist voice samples for Ironside within ZH already, so only DS would be silent throughout his challenge mish tongue.gif


I didn't think Ironside said anything anyways :S


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post 23 Jun 2009, 3:42
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General Ironside have 113 voice sampels and Deathstrike have 105 voice samples.

Check SpeechEnglishZH files. Of course, there are more missing voice samples in game.


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post 23 Jun 2009, 3:45
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QUOTE (MR.Kim @ 23 Jun 2009, 0:42) *
General Ironside have 113 voice sampels and Deathstrike have 105 voice samples.

Check SpeechEnglishZH files. Of course, there are more missing voice samples in game.


There's also a shed load of other unit voices. Like alternate rangers/dozers/aircraft.


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post 3 Jul 2009, 8:20
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I Prefered the new boss general for ShockWave are General X (uses Every units, structures, and technologies from every faction other than himself, His voice is Very Much like Stephen Hawking except its lower, the maps where he is fought is epic sized)
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Well most of all I like him/her to be unique than any other faction. It kinda makes it boring for me to fight that kind of general.


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post 3 Jul 2009, 10:08
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There won't be a new boss general.

It was a terrible mistake from EA to turn Leang into a hybrid general with stuff from all three factions.....this was just plain boring and cheap.

Now we have three completely new generals, namely Leang, Ironside and Deathstrike.
Those three should have been in Zero Hour at the beginning, but EA was probably too lazy to make them work.

So again, stop hoping for some cheap copycat General which wuold come at the end of the challenge.


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post 3 Jul 2009, 14:15
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QUOTE (WARthog @ 3 Jul 2009, 8:08) *
There won't be a new boss general.

It was a terrible mistake from EA to turn Leang into a hybrid general with stuff from all three factions.....this was just plain boring and cheap.

Now we have three completely new generals, namely Leang, Ironside and Deathstrike.
Those three should have been in Zero Hour at the beginning, but EA was probably too lazy to make them work.

So again, stop hoping for some cheap copycat General which wuold come at the end of the challenge.

Just for your information, it stays since ancient times in the tradition of tournament games to have an uber boss at the end of the game, and the Generals Challenge is no exclusion. It IS right that EA where a little lazy to make Ironside and Deathstrike, but none the less, they would have had anything for their factions as well like the originally planned Leang. I would not mind having a mighty boss General at the end of the challenge, but due to several coding restrictions (maximum of 12 visual videos for the challenge and pictures, maximum of 9 or 10 missions per campain etc.), it is not possible in the spirit of SWR productions to have it almost bugfree. BUT a possibility could be double-maps of the enemies generals.
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post 4 Jul 2009, 7:06
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I request the Boss General named General X (replaces General Leang in ShockWave as Boss General) he Will Use Vastly Massive Army Consisting All the Units and Structures from Every Other Armies that fought in ShockWave, including any units from specialized armies of All three Faction (USA, China, GLA), as well as the technologies.

Here are The List Of His Arsenal:
    Plasma Cannon Uplink (Supercharged Version of Particle Cannon, Fires Pure White Beam that Hotter than Sun, Lasts 50 Seconds)
    Antimatter Missile (Supercharged Version of Nuclear Missile, That Missile come with antimatter warhead instead nuclear warhead, Damage done by antimatter missile up to twice of nuclear missile (includes Area damage), and leaves no radiation)
    SCUD Storm (His Version Uses Both Dr. Thrax's Anthrax gamma warhead and Rodall Juhziz's High Explosive Warhead)
    Cluster Missile (His Version Spews Few MOABs)
    Temple of Gaia (His Version Fires Volleys of Seismic shells, each single shells add the duration of earthquake)
    Soyuz Missile (His Version Delivers Grey Goo)
    Apart from superweapons, General X has Every Units, Structures, and Technologies from Every Armies other than Himself. and All Of His Units are start off as Veteran and has Pre-installed With Upgrades (Regardless their origins) from beginning, Some of his units are start off as Elite, especially his Rifle Soldier, Rocket Soldier, Main Battle Tank, Transport land vehicle, and Heavy tank, plus air Units Raptor, Comanche, MiG, Tiger, Ballon and All of the Units, structure, and Technologies he possesses are Mixed Regardless their Origins

Apart from His Arsenal, He has Triple Personality Disorder, His Voice is Very Similar but lower to Stephen Hawking, and He is Very enigmatic (His Portrait is Question Mark)
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QUOTE (Masonicon @ 4 Jul 2009, 4:06) *
I request the Boss General named General X (replaces General Leang in ShockWave as Boss General) he Will Use Vastly Massive Army Consisting All the Units and Structures from Every Other Armies that fought in ShockWave, including any units from specialized armies of All three Faction (USA, China, GLA), as well as the technologies.

Here are The List Of His Arsenal:
    Plasma Cannon Uplink (Supercharged Version of Particle Cannon, Fires Pure White Beam that Hotter than Sun, Lasts 50 Seconds)
    Antimatter Missile (Supercharged Version of Nuclear Missile, That Missile come with antimatter warhead instead nuclear warhead, Damage done by antimatter missile up to twice of nuclear missile (includes Area damage), and leaves no radiation)
    SCUD Storm (His Version Uses Both Dr. Thrax's Anthrax gamma warhead and Rodall Juhziz's High Explosive Warhead)
    Cluster Missile (His Version Spews Few MOABs)
    Temple of Gaia (His Version Fires Volleys of Seismic shells, each single shells add the duration of earthquake)
    Soyuz Missile (His Version Delivers Grey Goo)
    Apart from superweapons, General X has Every Units, Structures, and Technologies from Every Armies other than Himself. and All Of His Units are start off as Veteran and has Pre-installed With Upgrades (Regardless their origins) from beginning, Some of his units are start off as Elite, especially his Rifle Soldier, Rocket Soldier, Main Battle Tank, Transport land vehicle, and Heavy tank, plus air Units Raptor, Comanche, MiG, Tiger, Ballon and All of the Units, structure, and Technologies he possesses are Mixed Regardless their Origins

Apart from His Arsenal, He has Triple Personality Disorder, His Voice is Very Similar but lower to Stephen Hawking, and He is Very enigmatic (His Portrait is Question Mark)


Your "request" looks very much to me like veiled suggestions. You were explicitly advised on two previous occasions that ShockWave is not open for suggestions, and you have repeated yourself in this thread as well with the reference to Steven Hawking. Do it again and you will receive a Warn Level increase and your posting permissions revoked for two weeks.

And in case you missed it:

http://forums.swr-productions.com/index.ph...post&p=3788

http://forums.swr-productions.com/index.ph...post&p=4060


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post 4 Jul 2009, 7:51
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IIRC, the faction slots are max 15. Which mean is can't add more factions.


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QUOTE (Stinger @ 4 Jul 2009, 10:40) *
Your "request" looks very much to me like veiled suggestions. You were explicitly advised on two previous occasions that ShockWave is not open for suggestions, and you have repeated yourself in this thread as well with the reference to Steven Hawking. Do it again and you will receive a Warn Level increase and your posting permissions revoked for two weeks.

And in case you missed it:

http://forums.swr-productions.com/index.ph...post&p=3788

http://forums.swr-productions.com/index.ph...post&p=4060

why the Suggestions are veiled?
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