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Nukem
post 18 Jul 2009, 7:10
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So ok I am curious on something? Who is the bad guys?? I assumed it was GLA, but it also seems like USA and China are the bad guys as well. Whats the story like for this war? How does Europe get involved? If this has already been posted I am sorry, just post a link to the answer.
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post 18 Jul 2009, 7:56
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It's somehow that Russia and the GLA are both enemies but not allies,Maybe ECA is with China and US.


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post 18 Jul 2009, 8:37
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Who's bad is up to you:

ECA: They literally started the war
Russia: They are invading Europe
USA: The US is closer to its real life counterpart so I'm sure they don't have a lot of fans
China: Basically controls a big chunk of Asia from behind the scenes and bullies the smaller nations
GLA: A terrorist is always someone's freedom fighter (though the GLA is more like an army this time around with exception of the terror cells)

There's no heroes and villains and everyone has plenty of skeletons in their closet. The 'right' side is up to which side you are on and the wrong side is who you are currently or will fight against.


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post 18 Jul 2009, 13:28
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Overdose couldn't have hit the nail on the head better smile.gif
Like with Zero Hour, it's up to you who is good and who is bad


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post 18 Jul 2009, 22:09
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QUOTE (Pickysaurus @ 18 Jul 2009, 9:28) *
Overdose couldn't have hit the nail on the head better smile.gif
Like with Zero Hour, it's up to you who is good and who is bad


Exactly, its all very grey. You might look at the European conflict and think how sad the ECA must be and how evil the Russians are, but when the ECA sat selfishly by and let the GLA troops attack the Russians in Africa, who can say who the real villain is?
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post 18 Jul 2009, 22:47
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QUOTE (Overdose @ 18 Jul 2009, 12:37) *
USA: The US is closer to its real life counterpart so I'm sure they don't have a lot of fans

wut? *goes all fanboy on the USA* 8Ip.png

No really, what makes you say that, Overdose?


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post 18 Jul 2009, 23:29
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Probably because the US Government think they own the world and do whatever they feel like....


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post 19 Jul 2009, 1:26
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Well as overdose said. Actually here in Europe there is a lot of anti-americanism, as well i think also in south america where he comes from. I don't know in Asia.

As well in the game they all are grey-powers, in ZH story USA abandon europe because of the attack of GLA in their land, and china coms to the rescue,anly later to be betraied by Europe,who also left russia alone in africa against GLA.
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post 19 Jul 2009, 9:09
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post 19 Jul 2009, 10:58
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QUOTE (Pickysaurus @ 18 Jul 2009, 12:29) *
Probably because the US Government think they own the world and do whatever they feel like....


Can we please not bring politics into this? I mean really, cmon, this is about the story of a game. I hope to god none of this ever happens for real. It would be the end of humanity as we know it.
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It depends on which story you follow, most people see GLA as the baddies, some see Russia as the baddies, and some the USA. It really depends, there is no definitive answer because all sides commit atrocities during this war as the story goes on.


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post 19 Jul 2009, 19:33
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QUOTE (ultimentra @ 19 Jul 2009, 8:58) *
It depends on which story you follow, most people see GLA as the baddies, some see Russia as the baddies, and some the USA. It really depends, there is no definitive answer because all sides commit atrocities during this war as the story goes on.

Very well said. Also, I never saw the GLA as the bad guys, but neither the USA or China, because they are presented as stereotypes (which I do not like), that is why.
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post 19 Jul 2009, 22:51
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Agreed on the stereotypes, I think in ROTR they might get rid of those stereotypes for the most part and really bring out core of these factions fighting forces. At least thats what I am hoping for biggrin.gif.


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post 23 Jul 2009, 16:24
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In war, everyone is the bad guy...


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post 25 Jul 2009, 21:32
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Everybody's the good guy too biggrin.gif

But in any case, do you think there could be a way to sort of incorporate the story into the actual game?
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post 26 Jul 2009, 0:51
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We are already working on that.


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post 14 Aug 2009, 11:29
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QUOTE (Overdose @ 25 Jul 2009, 15:51) *
We are already working on that.



so everyone is bad is their own sense...Interesting...I like it!!!
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post 16 Aug 2009, 6:19
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QUOTE (Overdose @ 17 Jul 2009, 21:37) *
Who's bad is up to you:

ECA: They literally started the war
Russia: They are invading Europe
USA: The US is closer to its real life counterpart so I'm sure they don't have a lot of fans
China: Basically controls a big chunk of Asia from behind the scenes and bullies the smaller nations
GLA: A terrorist is always someone's freedom fighter (though the GLA is more like an army this time around with exception of the terror cells)

There's no heroes and villains and everyone has plenty of skeletons in their closet. The 'right' side is up to which side you are on and the wrong side is who you are currently or will fight against.

lol China: Basically controls a big chunk of Asia from behind the scenes and bullies the smaller nations i see china is the bully


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post 16 Aug 2009, 12:34
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Seems like we need a new trope to fit ROTR into everything tongue.gif
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post 16 Aug 2009, 20:58
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http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main...AndGrayMorality

This trope fits ROTR best although there are others. Maybe it will help you understand the setting a little.


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post 16 Aug 2009, 21:05
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Well choosen Overdose, this trope is a 100% fit, but well, in regard how much one can stretch it it is no wonder tongue.gif
Yeah, each side has good and bad people, reasons to fight and blood of innocent people on the hands.
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