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post 28 May 2012, 18:49
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Actually, USA intel is something that we've internally discussed a few days ago and there are going to be some changes to make their options a bit less restricted.
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post 28 May 2012, 18:58
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QUOTE (Anubis @ 28 May 2012, 19:34) *
On a different note - why is it that USA has the lowest intel of all factions, while being the high tech one. They need to unlock their only true intel power, and the cia agent is slow as hell. China has stealth LO's and inet centers, GLA has the awsome radar scan that can basicly be massed like crazy. Russia is also meh, but they aint the tech dominant race.


Well, USA also has the best scout units in the game: the Sentry Drone, and Spy Drone

Not to mention one is stealthed at all times while the other is aerial (less vulnerable) and both are very fast. Coupled with Search and Destroy expands their vision even further. No other faction comes close.

Also, like China in a sense, USA also gets a rank 1 scouting power (Sat Scan).

I guess it's more balancing to make CIA Intel a general point considering it lasts longer than the Chinese rank 1 version and it also encourages the use of the scout units, because in Vanilla, they pretty much near the start of the game, rendered useless as long as the player gets their Strategy Center up. But, maybe its placement at rank 5 is indeed rather too limiting.

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post 28 May 2012, 19:10
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post 28 May 2012, 19:30
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gla tunnel with no machinegun ???????????????????????????


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post 28 May 2012, 19:41
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Thanks for the answers! Last time I tried an uncut patch it didn't work, but I'll try again.
So the Saboteur is gone, and something will be revealed later. Just like the ECA will be relvealed later, the second new faction after Russia, wich uses voices and ideas from Red Alert. Let's see: Red Alert, Europe, stealthed infiltrator who can shut down power and reset superweapon timers... Say, does Russia get Attack Dogs?
When GLA doesn't need general points to unlock those units, does that count for Overlord, Paladin ect., too?

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post 28 May 2012, 20:17
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QUOTE (Mcbob @ 28 May 2012, 19:58) *
Well, USA also has the best scout units in the game: the Sentry Drone, and Spy Drone

Not to mention one is stealthed at all times while the other is aerial (less vulnerable) and both are very fast. Coupled with Search and Destroy expands their vision even further. No other faction comes close.

Also, like China in a sense, USA also gets a rank 1 scouting power (Sat Scan).


None is stealthed. The sentry drone no longer has stealth in any way, nor is it a scouting unit - now its a strong anti-inf. The spy drone while being air its also the most vulnerable.

Anyway - glad to hear that USA will get more flexibility in their intel.
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post 28 May 2012, 20:20
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QUOTE (aeroth @ 28 May 2012, 20:30) *
gla tunnel with no machinegun ???????????????????????????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbeR6uYxU50


What, you'd rather have us replace the Dushka Nest with that pissy little peashooter on top of a Tunnel? screwyou.gif

QUOTE (Arrakis @ 28 May 2012, 20:41) *
When GLA doesn't need general points to unlock those units, does that count for Overlord, Paladin ect., too?


As a general rule, we will later eliminate many of the 'Unlocks unit X' powers, or at least provide them with enough features to make them justified. Overlords and Paladins will become default-available for the generals who have them.
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post 28 May 2012, 20:58
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post 28 May 2012, 21:27
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QUOTE (Anubis @ 28 May 2012, 21:17) *
None is stealthed. The sentry drone no longer has stealth in any way, nor is it a scouting unit - now its a strong anti-inf. The spy drone while being air its also the most vulnerable.


Oh shoot. Thanks for the pointer on the sentry drone.
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post 28 May 2012, 22:22
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Give the drushka nest to some general and bring back the tunel machinegun...my entire gla tactic is based on that tunnel sad.gif
map mobility and defences
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post 28 May 2012, 22:39
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QUOTE (aeroth @ 28 May 2012, 23:22) *
Give the drushka nest to some general and bring back the tunel machinegun...my entire gla tactic is based on that tunnel sad.gif
map mobility and defences


Might I suggest you change tactics then rather? The Tunnel network was a meh defence at the best of times.

Onto other matters

The civilian informant keeps wandering around and randomly gets run over by enemy vehicles. I've tried putting him in out of the way spots but he doesn't have a very large sight radius. I hardly ever take it now since I can just spam radar vans.

I noticed when I put my Command truck into the chem lab a radar dish comes out the dome. is this just a visual thing or is it meant to do something. I'm thinking it represents your ability to still use general powers but I'm not sure. I was thinking maybe it was to give you radar.

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post 28 May 2012, 22:55
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QUOTE (Darkfire Angel @ 28 May 2012, 16:39) *
Might I suggest you change tactics then rather? The Tunnel network was a meh defence at the best of times.

Onto other matters

The civilian informant keeps wandering around and randomly gets run over by enemy vehicles. I've tried putting him in out of the way spots but he doesn't have a very large sight radius. I hardly ever take it now since I can just spam radar vans.

I noticed when I put my Command truck into the chem lab a radar dish comes out the dome. is this just a visual thing or is it meant to do something. I'm thinking it represents your ability to still use general powers but I'm not sure. I was thinking maybe it was to give you radar.

Place them behind their Supply docks, there's no proper way to hide him from AI as they are random but there will be nitch spots for them.

Would be the same in a PVP game, requires a bit of skill and intuition haha


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post 28 May 2012, 23:09
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only thing annoying me until now is that the GLA-barack needs so much build-space, should be smaller than the armsdealer imo..
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post 28 May 2012, 23:19
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A sign of things to come?

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post 28 May 2012, 23:50
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post 29 May 2012, 1:08
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the countermeasures remain stick to the raptors until they land biggrin.gif

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post 29 May 2012, 1:13
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QUOTE (Darkfire Angel @ 28 May 2012, 23:39) *
Might I suggest you change tactics then rather? The Tunnel network was a meh defence at the best of times.


there was only 2 ways to play with gla
vs usa with quads and buggy rush
vs china or another gla with tunnel spam and map control

(and with demo bikes vs noobs:)) )

what can i do now? dushka looks good but dies vs 3 infantery...so not worth the money
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post 29 May 2012, 2:31
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You can STILL build tunnel networks. As a matter of fact, you could build an arms dealer and it would function as a tunnel. Map control is still viable. And for defense, keep a few units in your tunnels, and evacuate them on a moment's notice on attack.
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post 29 May 2012, 2:55
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I've tried some GLA and is getting some bearing. After completing a Black Market, GLA is extremely effective vs AI (which just spams and throws their lives at you for money).
Also, the new tunnel production structures are quite good. I can easily send my newly built stuff into battle at the frontline (I still prefer putting a few tunnel out there in the front with camo upgrade).

Considering limited number of detectors in RotR, new GLA stealth stuffs are very effective.

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I just know that too. They crossed the river (Final Crusade) to attack my flank.


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post 29 May 2012, 2:56
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QUOTE (aeroth @ 29 May 2012, 8:13) *
what can i do now? dushka looks good but dies vs 3 infantery...so not worth the money


That's BS! The Dushka can take on a bradley by itself, it can certainly hold it's own against 3 infantries. Compared to that the tunnel network gun is puny and can't even shoot air.

Also there's the fortified structures upgrade.


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post 29 May 2012, 3:06
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QUOTE (Zeke @ 29 May 2012, 8:56) *
That's BS! The Dushka can take on a bradley by itself, it can certainly hold it's own against 3 infantries. Compared to that the tunnel network gun is puny and can't even shoot air.

Also there's the fortified structures upgrade.

Maybe the 3 infantries he faced are Shocktroopers. tongue.gif


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post 29 May 2012, 4:43
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QUOTE (Casojin @ 29 May 2012, 3:06) *
Maybe the 3 infantries he faced are Shocktroopers. tongue.gif


I've played against a Russian opponent and not even their Shocktroopers can damage my Duska, they eventually destroyed it when they deployed armor.



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post 29 May 2012, 4:46
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QUOTE (bigbri2k5 @ 28 May 2012, 22:23) *
Random question, but have you checked in the documents\generals zero hour data folder to make sure you have an options.ini file. I had a similar sounding problem to yours(either it would freeze and give me a generals.exe has stopped working error, or it would just disappear with no explanation) and it turned out the ini file was missing, even after multiple clean reinstalls.


I've had the same. It seems that Generals generates the .ini file when you first run it after installing, so doing a fresh install and then installing a mod straight away can cause problems - I find that doing a fresh install and then starting the first campaign mission in ZH before quitting out, and then installing mods, is the option which works best for me.
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post 29 May 2012, 5:53
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QUOTE (Zeke @ 29 May 2012, 3:56) *
That's BS! The Dushka can take on a bradley by itself, it can certainly hold it's own against 3 infantries. Compared to that the tunnel network gun is puny and can't even shoot air.
Also there's the fortified structures upgrade.


Right. There's absolutely nothing 'weak' about the Dushka. As a matter of fact, it tears through infantry and even light vehicles if you place a small bunch of them.
And then there's also the AP Ammo upgrade. The only thing that makes them more vulnerable by comparison is that the gunner can die before the structure goes down.
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post 29 May 2012, 9:17
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