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Rise of the Reds: Among Jackals Part 2, Media Update #37
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post 12 Aug 2009, 21:59
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QUOTE (KamuiK @ 12 Aug 2009, 14:36) *
Nice update, the Sentry drone now looks like Phalanx on tracks. The 'new' Nuke Cannon looks great as well (ok, I have seen it before).
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I think it is really fun to see that both April 31 and 32 are actually non-existent. I and some others would like to see it changed to May 1st and 2nd respectivly. Also, some intel about the Convention would be helpful.

Apparently the convention was something that went extremely bad for china according to what overdose says and it will be shown in the next part of website lore ohmy.gif
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post 12 Aug 2009, 23:04
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From the sounds of it the Budapest Convention led to a ban on the use of neutron weaponry.

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post 12 Aug 2009, 23:08
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I actually like very much the new models,astonishing the story

About the reutilization of TAO's nuke cannon.. I'm totally fine with that: Game-wisely the nuke cannon that passed to the new generation was the advanced prototype utilized by TAO, same thing to be applied to the ERA armor from Kwai that went to every chinese battlemaster by default.

About the neutron technology that chinese can no longer utilize following the treaty of Budapest in 2026... Do you remember what they said in the original Zero Hour manuals about the neutron tech? the exact words: "long rumored to be in chinese arsenal".
No one actually saw it in work, even in the campaign the only time you utilized the technology was during the assault to the chinese reactor perpetrated by GLA. And tell me, who cares about GLA losses done by a new,devastating, deviated technology?
During the intervention in Europe they are forbidden to utilize nuke tech.

I also remember that in the manual in Tao's attached Bio there was written something about a nuclear accident caused by him, maybe the very same accident that leaded to the Budapest Convention.

(that would be really awesome,giving the feeling of linking ends) serious.gif

Maybe it's just speculation.
It's just that I like Maddog TAO.

And about the chinese strategy that doesn't care about humanitarian anti-neutron convention: They will have increasing problem with public opinion as every advanced country, and when their products will reach the same price of european/american product in european/american markets (increased cost of transport likely) what will drive the consumers towards a product?

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post 12 Aug 2009, 23:23
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nice update! smile.gif

the sentry drone looks nice and it also makes sense, that the chinese would adopt Tao's experimental Nuke Cannon on a great scale.....

@katmoda12: very nice speculation .... your thoughts do make sense.


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post 13 Aug 2009, 0:06
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Sadly no Katmoda12. Generals takes place in 2020 and that incident with Tao happened earlier in his career was very distant from 2027 when the convention took place.


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post 13 Aug 2009, 0:34
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Oh Well, I just liked the idea.

You know Tao is one of us. He makes me laughs everytime i play the challenge.


"three nukes? who could thing such a thing?"
"four nukes? incredible!"

I fail to remember the exclamtion triggered with five nukes. but i remember it was funny
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post 13 Aug 2009, 1:33
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QUOTE (The_Hunter @ 12 Aug 2009, 13:33) *
The original sentry drone had no such thing as a firing animation.

If your reffering to the muzzle flame it had it still has that except that we used a different texture for the muzzle.

And what about sounds? I expect this new gun to fire a lot faster.

I misworded that when using animation, I meant the firing visuals along with the sound worked very well.


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post 13 Aug 2009, 3:03
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QUOTE (katmoda12 @ 13 Aug 2009, 6:34) *
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Oh Well, I just liked the idea.

You know Tao is one of us. He makes me laughs everytime i play the challenge.


"three nukes? who could thing such a thing?"
"four nukes? incredible!"

I fail to remember the exclamtion triggered with five nukes. but i remember it was funny



Yes yes yes me too "The glow, the wonderful glow, can you feel it General"

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post 13 Aug 2009, 11:58
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The dates on the diary are still wrong tongue.gif Also, AFAIK Generals takes place in 2013 to 2015, and Z:H takes place in 2020, and my favorite General according to the taunts is Dr. Trax:
"Damn, that was my whine cellar!" or "You destroyed my Command Center? Well, I didn't like my subordinates anyway." or "Fire that Nuke at us, it will only make us stronger!" aso.
Last thing: what is a Golova?
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post 13 Aug 2009, 12:36
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Well the Chinese would still be okay with the Nuke Cannon even if the Convention will forbid neutron weapons (including the upgrade for the landmines), 'cause they have more powerful nuke shells to make up for that. katmoda12's speculations gave me some nice info about the lore...

QUOTE (KamuiK @ 13 Aug 2009, 15:58) *
The dates on the diary are still wrong tongue.gif Also, AFAIK Generals takes place in 2013 to 2015, and Z:H takes place in 2020, and my favorite General according to the taunts is Dr. Trax:
"Damn, that was my whine cellar!" or "You destroyed my Command Center? Well, I didn't like my subordinates anyway." or "Fire that Nuke at us, it will only make us stronger!" aso.
Last thing: what is a Golova?

Me too for the Generals'/ZH's setting, as for the quotes:

Dr. Thrax: "You smell something? Huh? Hahahaha!!"
"You'll come for the toxins, but you'll stay...BECAUSE YOU'RE DEAD! Heeheehaha!"
Gen. Granger: "*humming the Star-Spangled Banner*...the bombs bursting in air...hehehe...!"
Gen. Tao: "You're going to like this, General...oh wait, no you won't! Hehehe..."


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post 13 Aug 2009, 12:51
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QUOTE (KamuiK @ 13 Aug 2009, 9:58) *
The dates on the diary are still wrong tongue.gif Also, AFAIK Generals takes place in 2013 to 2015, and Z:H takes place in 2020

ROTR =/= ZH.


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QUOTE (Shock @ 13 Aug 2009, 10:51) *
ROTR =/= ZH.

What are you refering to? ROTR is a continuation of Z:H, set in the 2030's, so I am right.
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post 13 Aug 2009, 18:49
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Actually if we see the generals/zero hour in SWR productions way they are:

Generals Classic (2015)- Shockwave (2020) -Rise of the reds (2030)

Rise of the reds it's almost a total conversion. While Shockwave it'a a huge addition that mantain all the feautre of Zero Hour.
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