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SWR Productions Forum _ Frontline News _ Recycling Technology Update 2
Posted by: The_Hunter 29 Nov 2014, 0:18
Now that you've seen the two Chinese Recycler variants, we also want to show you the modifications that stolen Chinese tech can apply to other GLA units:
Salvaging a crate from a Chinese Tier 1 vehicle allows you to add a napalm component to the following units:
First, we have the Bomb Truck which receives a pretty big napalm payload capable of creating a firestorm upon detonation.
Note that it does -not- override its previous payload and can be combined with either a biological or high-explosive bomb.
Second is the Demo Truck which does not create a firestorm on impact but still a sizable incendiary blast when it goes off.
Last but certainly not least in this category, the Terrorist and the Demo Trap.
The Demo Traps will also create a firestorm on detonation like the Bomb Truck whereas Terrorists, like the Demo Truck, simply get a nice additional napalm fire explosion added to their standard effect.
Salvaging a crate from a Chinese Tier 2 vehicle allows you to install jury rigged nuclear engines on the following vehicles:
First, the Technical, which gains a massive speed increase from their new nuclear engines which will however also make them create a minor explosion and radiation field on destruction.
For some added comedic value we also made them do fancy wheelies whenever they accelerate with their new engines.
Second is the Quad Cannon which can also get nuclear engines to boost its speed but just as the Technicals, it will create a minor explosion and radiation field when destroyed.
As always, we would like to remind all of you out there that there will be another stream on this Sunday:
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Posted by: Generalcamo 29 Nov 2014, 0:24
Isn't a Technical with Nuclear engines a bit.. overkill? Maybe it should get some uranium bullets too just to up the ante.
Posted by: Maelstrom 29 Nov 2014, 0:33
Wow, great job guys !
But are these upgrades purchased from the Recycler Truck, or on each unit ?
Posted by: Generalcamo 29 Nov 2014, 0:35
Can the Napalm bomb truck be combined with a nuclear bomb truck?
Posted by: Thelord444 29 Nov 2014, 0:38
Goddamn GLA drones.
Now we're talking, High tech GLA bit*hes 
Posted by: The_Hunter 29 Nov 2014, 0:38
But are these upgrades purchased from the Recycler Truck, or on each unit ?
Posted by: SiR Chaff 29 Nov 2014, 0:38
I'm amazed how those drivers of the 2 technicals in the back can handle the heat from nuclear engines 
Posted by: Umpfelgrumpf 29 Nov 2014, 0:39
Alright guys, first i had some doubts about the recycler.
But this is straight away amazing. So much cool stuff.
Thank you very much, I wonder how much time it took to create all those models again, with napalm/nuclear stuff!
The recycler mechanic seems to be way bigger then I/we thought!
Posted by: The_Hunter 29 Nov 2014, 0:41
But this is straight away amazing. So much cool stuff.
Thank you very much, I wonder how much time it took to create all those models again, with napalm/nuclear stuff!
The recycler mechanic seems to be way bigger then I/we thought!
Much more to come in the coming weeks
Posted by: Admiral*Alex 29 Nov 2014, 0:44
So Hunter does that mean ,indirectly, that a Bomb truck could have High Explosive, Bio Bomb, Fire Storm explosion? (All three combined)
Posted by: The_Hunter 29 Nov 2014, 0:47
Bio and HE Bombs are actualy mutualy exclusive to each other its basicly an unintented exploit that you can currently get both due to lag in multiplayer.
Posted by: Umpfelgrumpf 29 Nov 2014, 0:52
But you could get nuke, bio/HE and napalm when picking up a nuclear warhead?
Posted by: The_Hunter 29 Nov 2014, 0:54
A nuke pickup overrides anything i was previously carrying with exception for the napalm.
Posted by: Mr.Kim 29 Nov 2014, 0:59
Holy s***
That is so insane with nuclear engines.
Posted by: Alessandro santo 29 Nov 2014, 1:03
did all faction leave scraps for impleement upgrades to other gla units?
Posted by: The_Hunter 29 Nov 2014, 1:05
Yes the do and they all unlock different upgrades.
also something else i forgot to mention in the update is that the exhaust pipes on those technicals and quad cannons spew out flames when they are moving
Posted by: Umpfelgrumpf 29 Nov 2014, 1:07
I can't wait to see the rest this is so awesome!
But I guess the unit upgrades are not in the stream tomorrow already?
Posted by: Emin96 29 Nov 2014, 1:07
awesome work guys.
Did GLA with recycler will be powerful and OP?
Can recycler use all faction tecnology in the same time
thanks in advance
Posted by: Mr.Kim 29 Nov 2014, 1:12
Can recycler use all faction technology in the same time
- Not really, most Recyclers are pretty weak(mostly normal damage) than others. Hell, even armor is like a piece of paper.
- Yes, you can use all stolen faction's tech at same time. But, it might be difficult to collect them.
Posted by: Umpfelgrumpf 29 Nov 2014, 1:20
The teaser picture of the stream seems like the USA version of the recycler.
With little flying GLA Drones 
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Posted by: Oliver 29 Nov 2014, 1:37
I donn't know, I'm not really feeling the nuclear technicals.. I just have to w8 and see them.
Drones for GLA, that looks interesting
Posted by: Kommandant Karisse 29 Nov 2014, 2:00
Dat teaser image.
Interesting designs here. I like the ridiculousness of the nuclear engines strapped to the vehicles. xD I never thought I'd say this, but I'm actually looking forward to some new GLA gameplay this weekend.
Posted by: GDIZOCOM 29 Nov 2014, 2:00
Lovely work on the engines
The GLA demonstrates its passion for safety once again
Posted by: SoraZ 29 Nov 2014, 2:18
But I guess the unit upgrades are not in the stream tomorrow already?
Yeah, they're being implemented but aren't in just yet. The Recycler itself as a vehicle with its various upgrades is finished though.
Posted by: Neo3602 29 Nov 2014, 2:36
Great update, it is just me or does the terrorist in the image look like he has a beard?
Posted by: Barry 29 Nov 2014, 2:40
Impressive,this is so cartoony that it is great
As for Recycler with drones...It seems that all variants from that concept art from year ago made it into the game...
Posted by: Generalcamo 29 Nov 2014, 2:40
Seriously though, maybe you should consider giving a weapon upgrade too to go along with it. I'm imagining this kind of conversation:
Technical Driver: Why not dump it in the ammo cache
Recycler Truck Guy: Well that isn't very sa..
Technical Driver: Yeah, just put it in the ammo cache. That way we can play with radioactive bullets!
Recycler Truck Guy: Fine. You will probably die anyway
Technical Driver: What?
Recycler Truck Guy: Nothing.
As a side effect, all the bullets are coated with radioactive waste.
Posted by: HoneyBee 29 Nov 2014, 5:07
GLA dronage tomorrow~
Posted by: Serialkillerwhale 29 Nov 2014, 5:38
So much for bomb trucks with a nuclear payload AND engine.
Dreams shattered.
Posted by: TimeBurner 29 Nov 2014, 5:55
Orkz are prowd of yiz!
Posted by: teslashark 29 Nov 2014, 8:02
Yuusuf's note to Workers:
The bottles attached to demo traps are not filled with orange juice.
Posted by: MARS 29 Nov 2014, 9:30
GLA nuclear cars - Fulfilling the atom-powered dream of 1950s America in a brushfire war near you!
Posted by: X1Destroy 29 Nov 2014, 10:54
Nuclear technicals??? This must be a joke.
Now the GLA have become a much bigger threat than before. Nice.
Posted by: SiR Chaff 29 Nov 2014, 11:05
Does Black Napalm upgrade apply to Napalm-equipped GLA units and demo-traps ??
Posted by: katmoda12 29 Nov 2014, 11:34
Fantastic!! you are making interestying even the faction I favour the least.
Some questions:
-Technical is already fast, with the nuclear engine does it become as fast as a bike? Does it jump up and down the cliffs like bikes?
-With the nuclear speed increase does the quad cannon go a s fast as a technical before upgrade? (that would be almost comical, quad cannon would become like AA jets!!)
-If bio-bomb load is chosen in bomb truck and upgraded with firestorm effect, does the fire damages also the enduring scrap left by the biobomb truck?
thanks as ever
Posted by: SiR Chaff 29 Nov 2014, 11:54
Why would a technical jump off a cliff knowing they use a NUCLEAR engine on FRONT of the vehicle ???
Its not like they're elastic bumpers, or are they ??
Posted by: GDIZOCOM 29 Nov 2014, 12:30
Its not like they're elastic bumpers, or are they ??
Why wouldn't they? It's the GLA we're talking about here.
Perhaps all that superglue and screws they used to put that thing together actually works.
Posted by: __CrUsHeR 29 Nov 2014, 12:31
When we were told that the new scrap system was something "bigger" I never thought it was something "so much bigger"; really is a very cool and interesting mechanics that simply revolutionized the GLA, making faction highly customizable; so before you saw only Scorpions, Quads, Buggies and Grads in games, now you will be able to see several different types of vehicles already that the same Quad for example can receive several different types of upgrades - something very appreciable.
The Technicals with nuclear engines were wonderful, is a dream for the GLA and a nightmare for his opponents, and is a very funny joke ; I'm eager to see these animations in the game.
Posted by: Composite armour 29 Nov 2014, 13:57
GLA Wasp hive! I knew it!
Other one is lasers methinks.
But yeah, what happens when technicals go over 88 MPH?
Posted by: SoraZ 29 Nov 2014, 14:34
Rule of thumb: upgrades of any faction not the GLA do not apply to anything recycler-related.
Posted by: Banisher of Hope 29 Nov 2014, 15:12
So what you are saying, if I may, is that the GLA upgrades apply to the GLA recycler salvages.
super powered GLA salvaged GLA power-ups baby!!!!
Posted by: Generalcamo 29 Nov 2014, 15:14
They TRAVEL THROUGH THE FABRIC OF TIME AND SPACE! So fast even that they appear to STAY IN YOUR WORLD! Isn't that great?
Posted by: AK-47 Crusader 29 Nov 2014, 15:16
Holy crap, napalm explosives? And nuclear engine technicals and quad cannons? Is this Ulater's dream come true?
The GLA, turning a faction's assets against it since the Great War on Terror (see: Jarmen Kell pre-IED accident).
This does make the GLA seem OP, BUT:
1. The Recycler truck's armor is like paper, although they are still good support units [be it close combat (hit and run, maybe, especially with ECA AT gun) or artillery (does Tremor AGAS Jr. ring a bell?)].
2. The scrap is hard to get.
Posted by: __CrUsHeR 29 Nov 2014, 16:14
A question for the MARS:
Some lore behind the Chinese nuclear engines? These engines seem to work on "V" through a gas system triggered by nuclear boiling of an liquid (probably water), this logic is correct?
Posted by: The_Hunter 29 Nov 2014, 17:15
I beleive this is one of those cases where its "fuck logic this is a video game, deal with it!" cases
Posted by: Admiral*Alex 29 Nov 2014, 19:08
Isn't that the case for most of Generals and Zero Hour, anyways.
Posted by: SoraZ 29 Nov 2014, 19:27
Considering we made sense out of most everything happening in Gens and ZH, not really. On the other hand, the entire Recycler logic is the GLA using Rule of Cool.
Posted by: Generalcamo 29 Nov 2014, 19:37
The GLA in general is weird. A terrorist faction, who somehow became a world power, crossing over into Blue and Orange Morality and Kick the Dog moments on a whim. They also have the means to maintain a nuclear, chemical, and chem-nuclear arsenal, and also they turn scrap metal into a unit that can kill several modern tanks. And they recycle parts off the battlefield to create a variety of weird technologies, even if the scrap parts did not even RELATE to what is being built. Doubly so if those parts did not come from a general who even HAS the technology.
Posted by: teslashark 29 Nov 2014, 19:43
There might be trade-ins between those who want a spare cannon and those who want a Tesla generator.
Posted by: SoraZ 29 Nov 2014, 20:59
That's pretty much the explanation, yes.
Posted by: Karpet 30 Nov 2014, 5:10
Welcome back to another episode of "Pimp My Technical"...
This time we teach you how to install a nuclear engine and make your awesomeness 'radiate'.
Seriously though, this is just beautiful.
Approximately how much is the speed of the quad cannon and technical increased? Is it doubled?
Posted by: BlackRangerXIII 30 Nov 2014, 7:14
Posted by: RikerZZZ 30 Nov 2014, 12:56
So with all this emphasis on scrap now for the GLA, does this mean that scrap will say around for longer?
Posted by: The_Hunter 30 Nov 2014, 13:01
As of 1.85 scrap will linger for one minute rather than 30 seconds.
Posted by: Basilisx 1 Dec 2014, 1:12
I would like to know that, too.
On another note, I try to imagine the awesome look of a neutronbomb upgraded Bombtruck with firestorm capabilities (and the resulting explosion). That is possible with the recycling mechanic,right ?
1.85 cannot come soon enough
Posted by: Admiral*Alex 1 Dec 2014, 4:14
On another note, I try to imagine the awesome look of a neutronbomb upgraded Bombtruck with firestorm capabilities (and the resulting explosion). That is possible with the recycling mechanic,right ?
1.85 cannot come soon enough
Hunter is going to say that is based on balance with is something that is going to change a lot ,so there isn't going to be a spefic number.
And Hunter said above that the nuclear payload overrides all other payloads. So it isn't going to happen.
Please research your question before you post it because it may have already been answered.
No it is not possible.
Posted by: Zeke 1 Dec 2014, 5:05
Please research your question before you post it because it may have already been answered.
No it is not possible.
Perhaps you should take your own advice because...
So yeah, neutron firestorms are GO!
Posted by: MARS 1 Dec 2014, 7:14
Basically, the napalm does not count as a payload by itself whereas HE, Bio and nuclear do. As such, you can have a payload -and- extra napalm on your truck at the same time. That is exactly why the napalm containers are attached to the sides of the vehicle.
Posted by: BlackRangerXIII 1 Dec 2014, 7:19
So yeah, neutron firestorms are GO!
Total win
Posted by: Basilisx 1 Dec 2014, 13:19
No offense, but get your facts right, before you feel the urge to moan at others
Many thanks to Zeke and Mars for clearing that for me.
Total win
My face excactly
Posted by: __CrUsHeR 1 Dec 2014, 14:37
I see that everything that comprises the new recycler system unfortunately was out of MARS lore-coverage, that is, those mini-lores to introduce each unit; it is because of the variants of Recycler Truck and GLA cross-tech units not deserve such coverage or for some other reason in particular?
(I always liked reading about each unit to understand some peculiarities of its operation, it helps to understand what goes through the minds of developers and per hour lots of things are vague about these new materials - in terms of lore).
Posted by: MARS 1 Dec 2014, 14:49
The way I see it, all of these individual upgrades do not require any lore of their own. They all fall under the idea that the GLA simply steals anything they find to repurpose it for their own needs, with occasionally amusing or batshit crazy results cos, well, it's the GLA^^
Posted by: __CrUsHeR 1 Dec 2014, 15:00
I understand this concept, however GLA apparently performs some modifications to certain weapons and technologies to can be reused in accordance with their interests and this makes some concepts suggestive but not imperative to the point of not leaving doubts about its functionality - (although I know that is not to be expected that everything in the game can be explained in appropriate manner).
BTW: I saw a good job of lore about the Marauder and the Battlebus for example, I would like to see something with the Recycler Truck variants also because apparently are cool units to explore some lore from behind their functionality and origin specific.
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