Terrorist cant use cars, Options

[GodofDeath]

it seems the ability of the terrorists to use civilian cars to make bombs is gone.

not completely sure its a bug, but i glanced over the change log for 1.1 and i didn't see that it was removed.

double post, sorry about that.

This post has been edited by GodofDeath: 26 Jun 2011, 8:32

[Chyros]

It's not in the changelog because it was changed before the last version. So yeah, it is a feature - it was deemed unsporting because on certain maps terror cars could dozer hunt too effectively.

[GodofDeath]

It's not in the changelog because it was changed before the last version. So yeah, it is a feature - it was deemed unsporting because on certain maps terror cars could dozer hunt too effectively.

ehhh. I see, would it be easy to change it back?

[Chyros]

ehhh. I see, would it be easy to change it back?

Yourself? Probably. I imagine you'd just have to change one variable in the .BIG file, though tbh I don't know which one off the top of my head.

[GodofDeath]

Yourself? Probably. I imagine you'd just have to change one variable in the .BIG file, though tbh I don't know which one off the top of my head.

I looked at the code for GLAInfantryTerrorist in both shockwave and zero hour default and i found no difference between them other then the death animation.

;Kris
Behavior = ConvertToCarBombCrateCollide ModuleTag_06
RequiredKindOf = VEHICLE ; we only give our bonus to VEHICLEs we collide with
;ForbiddenKindOf = TRANSPORT DOZER ; but not to TRANSPORTs or DOZERs!
FXList = FX_MakeCarBombSuccess
End

I'm not completely sure where else to look.

[Overdose]

Terrorists don't have driving licenses.

[CobraHumvee]

not that you would want to pull one over and find out


Police "Sir, license and registration."
Terrorist " FOR THE GLA!!!"
*BOOM*

[Chyros]

I looked at the code for GLAInfantryTerrorist in both shockwave and zero hour default and i found no difference between them other then the death animation.

;Kris
Behavior = ConvertToCarBombCrateCollide ModuleTag_06
RequiredKindOf = VEHICLE ; we only give our bonus to VEHICLEs we collide with
;ForbiddenKindOf = TRANSPORT DOZER ; but not to TRANSPORTs or DOZERs!
FXList = FX_MakeCarBombSuccess
End

I'm not completely sure where else to look.

How about the cars themselves?

[GodofDeath]

How about the cars themselves?

I looked, the code for all the civilian cars in shockwave is exactly the same as zero hour except for the buttonimage and selectportrait.

I did find Command_GLAInfantryTerroristMakeCarBomb in CommandButton.ini that was disabled with a bunch of semicolons, but when I re-enable it and go into the game , the cursor is the invalid symbol no matter what car i scroll over.
Here it is:

;CommandButton Command_GLAInfantryTerroristMakeCarBomb
;Command = CONVERT_TO_CARBOMB
;Options = OK_FOR_MULTI_SELECT CONTEXTMODE_COMMAND NEED_TARGET_ALLY_OBJECT NEED_TARGET_NEUTRAL_OBJECT ;Kris: Contextmode command options require code support!
;Upgrade = None
;TextLabel = CONTROLBAR:CarBomb
;ButtonImage = SSTerroristCarBomb
;CursorName = EnterAggressive
;InvalidCursorName = GenericInvalid
;ButtonBorderType = ACTION ; Identifier for the User as to what kind of button this is
;DescriptLabel = CONTROLBAR:ToolTipGLATerroristMakeCarBomb
;UnitSpecificSound = TerroristVoiceModeCarBomb
;End

I'm looking everywhere for this CONVERT_TO_CARBOMB command, and anything else related, but no luck so far.

[GodofDeath]

maybe maps

This post has been edited by GodofDeath: 29 Jun 2011, 4:42

[GodofDeath]

ok well i figured it out. But for future reference, in case someone else has the same questions i had:

I was playing a map that was not optimized for shockwave and i could create car bombs again.

It looks like the inability for terrorists to use cars is coded into each map that was "optimized" to work with shockwave.
im going to investigate further.

unfortunately, I can't just delete !shw_maps.gib because that will get rid of all the useful AI information. I think Im going to have to modify each one by hand.

BTW I found another bug, Its pretty important, GLA workers cannot collect supplies from small piles. they just stand around it and keep replaying their pickup animation.

This post has been edited by GodofDeath: 29 Jun 2011, 4:46

[Shockwavelover84]

It's not in the changelog because it was changed before the last version. So yeah, it is a feature - it was deemed unsporting because on certain maps terror cars could dozer hunt too effectively.

That's interesting - as an alternative, would it be possible to reduce the damage that terrorist cars do to dozers?