Back when I joined in 2009, there was a large amount of community feeling around here, which persisted up to 2010. However, in 2012, I noticed that a lot of that started to die off, and now in 2013 it just seems like a regular forum, with no sense of community anymore.
Do the veterans feel the same way?
As someone whom has been around since Shockwave .8something...I feel as though folks have become more...entitled feeling. Like Hunter and Comrade (among others) owe them content. As someone who has also lucky enough to befriend most of the SWR Team, THEY are entitled to take as much time as they as damn well please.
I partially agree, SWR, for me, never felt as 'home-y' as E-Studios before it became Fallout. Though even here I have noticed a great decrease in post quality...
SWR has always been more of a purely functional forum for the mods. There's never been a real forum culture around here, no insider gags, no memes, just the projects and the usual bunch of sections for other discussions. I never perceived that as a bad thing though. Some forums are solely meant to serve as a means of interaction between producers and fans while others are more about the shared experience of a community.
In a sense I'd say yes. There aren't too many people around unlike when this place was first created 4 years back. FS/E-Studios definitely had a lot more things to go with when the projects were hosted there.
I always got curious of the outcome if SWR never left the old place
As someone who has only been here a year, this is the only forum that has ever held any sort of interest in me. I reallly like how the devs interact with the community and assist us with our questions and projects. I have also never seen the amount of fan-fics in the quantity and quality, and never seen the devs include some of the fan-fics into canon.
However, I can definitely see how there is very little community going on here. It's very information based, and members generally do not acknowledge eachother.
This forum is slower than it used to be before but with sites such as FalloutStudios and CNCMaps down, the generals community is pretty much dead anyway. Not to mention Sleipnirstuff which is a ghost town right now, but at least it's still up with all it's assets and nostalgia.
http://www.sleipnirstuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=14555&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=120
This made me really sad.
Just to see how there are all these people and community that have just fallen off.
Is it the Generals and CnC community, or is it forums in general? Social media could have taken a bite out of it.
What is it that really makes a forum a community?
Imo, one of the main reasons the community feels dead is because there's too little of us and yet a lot of forums out there. In the past there was some talk about merging what was left of the generals community under one forum, but due to bad management it just ended up in a fight and the idea was scrapped. I hope we can restart this idea in the future.
Another reason is lack of true member involvement and forum etiquette. Most of the posts made in this forum is made in the SWR mods section. Every other forum outside that either gets no replies or stupid replies. Granted, the SWR mod section also gets a lot of stupid replies, and I for one am getting sick of every ROTR thread devolving into an ask the developer session. Generally, People just post whatever they want anywhere they want. They do not read previous posts and repeat the same questions over and over again. They are rude, demanding, and hard headed. What I hate the most are people in the modding section, who have obviously never modded before, acting like they know shit, as if trying to impress the SWR team so that they'll get asked to join the team (and no I do not mean those people who are just honestly trying to help, I can tell the difference...). The forum, to me, right now just feels like passing through a tiberium field. I always feel like checking what I have to check, posting what I have to post, then getting the fuck out before I hurt my brain too much.
Really, bring akk the communities together? that would be neat.
What are the other generals forums?
I could be wrong, but imho a big reason for the lack of action in the Generals community is ModDB. In the past people showed off and discussed their modding progress in the Forums (here, FS, SS, FF, etc.). Nowadays every mod is on moddb. There are still a lot of people doing personal mods, but mostly nobody cares about those any more. It's reasonable though, since most of the bigger mods have improved their quality a lot, and it's hard for smaller mods to catch up.
Since I have posted this, this community has grown into a "hub" of C&C mods, with Hecthor's streaming stuff, and NLS coming to SWR.
But somehow, the posting quality just keeps going down, like at this thread: http://forums.swr-productions.com/index.php?showtopic=6311
*late post/necro*
Honestly I think it is because the C&C community is a mere shadow of itself compared to it's height of activity in 2005-2007/2008 when Generals modding took off and C&C3 was just announced resulting in a lot for activity for E-Studios (had the best banner, evar) at the time. Also this community suffered a split back in 2009 which resulted in the creation of SWR productions from the re-named forum Fallout Studios which definitely damaged the activity a bit at least.
Though overall I do attribute this to the decline in interest in C&C due to C&C4 being a shit-show and RA3 being very divisive.
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