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Posted by: Lazy-Bones 7 Nov 2016, 21:11

Hey guys,

I ran into some video showing ROTR missions (or campaign).
Where can find those and how do I use it?

Thanks.

Posted by: Skitt 7 Nov 2016, 21:44

more than likely u seen falcon rising
an unofficial sub mod for rotr
http://rotr-falcon-rising.yolasite.com/ABOUT.php

Posted by: (USA)Bruce 7 Nov 2016, 22:33

Unoffical means

USE CAUTION WHEN INSTALLING IT
USE CAUTION WHEN READING THE LORE

I could write a metal GearxDotaxYuri story that takes place in the ROTR settings and it would be more interesting.Not to mention less edgy, so dont mistake their work for ours....

Posted by: Storm 7 Nov 2016, 23:33

QUOTE (Lazy-Bones @ 8 Nov 2016, 1:41) *
ran into some video showing ROTR missions (or campaign).
Where can find those and how do I use it?


Falcon Rising and there is also a group on facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/452178301576679/

QUOTE
USE CAUTION WHEN INSTALLING IT
USE CAUTION WHEN READING THE LORE


Don't worry with all the threats or warnings you receive from others over here or anywhere. Just go for Falcon Rising patch. It is not exceptional but some good work by a mod developer. By all means even if anything goes wrong, you can always revert back by uninstalling and reinstalling the original ZH and install the mods from scratch.

Posted by: General Scrapstrike 8 Nov 2016, 4:51

QUOTE ((USA)Bruce @ 7 Nov 2016, 14:33) *
USE CAUTION WHEN READING THE LORE

>Reads the http://rotr-falcon-rising.yolasite.com/Falcon-Rising-Storyline.php
>My reaction:

Posted by: Storm 8 Nov 2016, 7:48

QUOTE (General Scrapstrike @ 8 Nov 2016, 9:21) *
>My reaction:

hahaha laugh.gif

Posted by: TimeBurner 8 Nov 2016, 8:26

QUOTE ((USA)Bruce @ 8 Nov 2016, 6:33) *
metal GearxDotaxYuri

Yuri? oh! Oh! OHH! I thought you meant something else between metal gear and Dota...

Posted by: Lazy-Bones 8 Nov 2016, 18:39

Thanks guys.

will I still be able to play swr.net online matches?

Posted by: (USA)Bruce 8 Nov 2016, 20:28

QUOTE (Lazy-Bones @ 8 Nov 2016, 20:39) *
Thanks guys.

will I still be able to play swr.net online matches?

No you will not be able to do so unless you remove the files that change the directory, unless they overwrite it..Then you should just have two directorys entirely seperted that have each install.

Yeah the lore is....I guess "off the headlines" like the original generals was when it was released with the fear of china rising and the war on terror.

Still wouldnt install it even if I had a gun to my head, I'd take the bullet instead....



Thats just my taste thou, I hope you enjoy it!

Posted by: Zion 11 Nov 2016, 15:12

QUOTE (Skitt @ 7 Nov 2016, 16:44) *
more than likely u seen falcon rising
an unofficial sub mod for rotr
http://rotr-falcon-rising.yolasite.com/ABOUT.php

Whats the difference between falcon rising and vanilla rotr?

Posted by: Skitt 11 Nov 2016, 21:08

QUOTE (Zion @ 11 Nov 2016, 14:12) *
Whats the difference between falcon rising and vanilla rotr?


rotr is well made


the full explanation would be thus..

falcon riseing....
weird ass lore and quite questionable
has campaign missions for all factions
problem with the missions is this: maps are poorly made most of the Russian campaign maps arnt even textured its that horrible world builder default texture
the scripting is...questionable

o and the creator of the sub mod wont take any criticism, and has paddy fits if you complain about anything in his mod...good times


its worth giving ti a go just once to try it out, but dont get your hopes up for high quality work.

Posted by: Storm 12 Nov 2016, 6:21

QUOTE (Skitt @ 12 Nov 2016, 1:38) *
o and the creator of the sub mod wont take any criticism, and has paddy fits if you complain about anything in his mod...good times

its worth giving ti a go just once to try it out, but dont get your hopes up for high quality work.


+this wink.gif (wow, finally got the chance to use the jargon). However, the creator of the sub is a one man show whereas the original ROTR is a team based production.

Besides, "this" also is a keyword to be used in a method (or a procedure as defined in an RDBMS) and is a pointer to the current object while programming in Java (as in a language).

Posted by: M.P 12 Nov 2016, 14:24

Why would you play Falcon rising When there's Zallbard? tongue.gif

Those good times we had with Zallbard...

Posted by: Damfoos 12 Nov 2016, 14:37

Zallbard doesn't have missions I think.

Posted by: five star general 12 Nov 2016, 23:42

QUOTE (Skitt @ 11 Nov 2016, 22:08) *
rotr is well made


the full explanation would be thus..

falcon riseing....
weird ass lore and quite questionable
has campaign missions for all factions
problem with the missions is this: maps are poorly made most of the Russian campaign maps arnt even textured its that horrible world builder default texture
the scripting is...questionable

o and the creator of the sub mod wont take any criticism, and has paddy fits if you complain about anything in his mod...good times


its worth giving ti a go just once to try it out, but dont get your hopes up for high quality work.


Just to clarify some facts USA & Russian Campaignes are not for FR they are for ROTR.
If you will play them with FR they will be broken especially the USA.
They look bad because they were just prototypes missions to learn the scrippting.
And even badly textured they were and still are liked.
And this is just one quote that i could find from fan:
Драгољуб Варангијан Боснић said
The Russian missions pack is great. It really feels ZHy. And about Russian mission 8,
it was a good one to put Rashka as a Kazakhstani town.

FR Campaignes are ECA, GLA, China, and one mission for Russia where you can see St. Basil church.
And FR Campaignes look a lot better even in some way better than
ROTR skirmish maps because FR has new tree and shrub models even some birds and wildlife.
Thanks to FR being a patch that gived opportunity to put custom made voices in missions and other stuff.
Here you can see all the FR campaignes preview pictures in lower section of the page.
http://rotr-falcon-rising.yolasite.com/Falcon-Rising-Campaignes.php

And yes FR lore is bad but it serves more like a compass to campaign making.
FR is one man show you cant have great lore, great models, great gameplay, and 12 campaign missions
done in six months. There has to be compromise.
ROTR is like Ferrari FR is like Dacia.
Most people hate or dislike Dacia but Dacia is still on the market and has its customers.
Same with FR most hate it few love it.
And you cant put more than two people in Ferrari, hehe.

This is just to clarify the facts.

Peace...

Posted by: Storm 13 Nov 2016, 7:47

QUOTE (five star general @ 13 Nov 2016, 4:12) *
Just to clarify some facts USA & Russian Campaignes are not for FR they are for ROTR.
If you will play them with FR they will be broken especially the USA.
They look bad because they were just prototypes missions to learn the scrippting.
And even badly textured they were and still are liked.
And this is just one quote that i could find from fan:
Драгољуб Варангијан Боснић said
The Russian missions pack is great. It really feels ZHy. And about Russian mission 8,
it was a good one to put Rashka as a Kazakhstani town.

FR Campaignes are ECA, GLA, China, and one mission for Russia where you can see St. Basil church.
And FR Campaignes look a lot better even in some way better than
ROTR skirmish maps because FR has new tree and shrub models even some birds and wildlife.
Thanks to FR being a patch that gived opportunity to put custom made voices in missions and other stuff.
Here you can see all the FR campaignes preview pictures in lower section of the page.
http://rotr-falcon-rising.yolasite.com/Falcon-Rising-Campaignes.php

And yes FR lore is bad but it serves more like a compass to campaign making.
FR is one man show you cant have great lore, great models, great gameplay, and 12 campaign missions
done in six months. There has to be compromise.
ROTR is like Ferrari FR is like Dacia.
Most people hate or dislike Dacia but Dacia is still on the market and has its customers.
Same with FR most hate it few love it.
And you cant put more than two people in Ferrari, hehe.

This is just to clarify the facts.

Peace...

Nicely put man ... Don't know if you are Sasa with this 'five star general' handle but an advice to you as a well wisher - never be discouraged or depressed if someone points out the flaws in your work, be it gaming or something else. At least you are the one who has tried and it does not matter how the work comes out to be ... you are miles ahead in your own accord! All the best!

Posted by: Mizo 13 Nov 2016, 17:26

Well let me add my 2 cents into this:

As a novice map scripter and cinematic cutscene maker, I do have to say making missions with map layouts , interesting objectives and mission events is HARD AS HELL. Intos alone is a hell to produce ( on a consistent excellent quality).

It needs a different mindset from a normal coding prespective.
As for the AI, to me AI is easy but that's highly subjective since I do have experience in AI scripting and optimization.

I'd say for a first real project FR does fine, its a first step. However I do see alot of duds and limit, and would recommend having an actual team making this sort of stuff rather than it being a one-map thing ( like for example, the AI is just not that good). You need to have a specialized people doing specific job in order to produce a quality that has all of its element consistent, meaning for campaign making you need atleast a terrain maker, an event scripter and an AI coder.

Posted by: Skitt 14 Nov 2016, 0:59

QUOTE (Mizo @ 13 Nov 2016, 16:26) *
you need atleast a terrain maker, an event scripter and an AI coder.

yeah he had me till he threw a paddy fit, started work on the russian campaign had 5 of them done till his temper tantrum

Posted by: Mizo 14 Nov 2016, 14:18

QUOTE (Skitt @ 14 Nov 2016, 0:59) *
yeah he had me till he threw a paddy fit, started work on the russian campaign had 5 of them done till his temper tantrum


Once I get the hang on good cinematic intro making, lets do a colab campagin tongue.gif
I need your map making skills.

Posted by: Skitt 14 Nov 2016, 16:09

QUOTE (Mizo @ 14 Nov 2016, 13:18) *
Once I get the hang on good cinematic intro making, lets do a colab campagin tongue.gif
I need your map making skills.



certainly biggrin.gif

Posted by: Jarmen Kell 7 Nov 2021, 6:26

Since I've received many so called "complaints" against my work, I will state it again. My rotr revelations campaign is a similar to the lores of rotr (there're 2 lores) have been produced, the only channel will preview this will be this channel only. Any mapper wants to contribute to this project contact us in moddb
https://youtu.be/EZtqIbwnYsw
Any questions?

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