Tourney on Shockwave mod? |
Tourney on Shockwave mod? |
20 Nov 2015, 18:30
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Group: Members Posts: 65 Joined: 18 November 2015 Member No.: 12368 |
Well,
what do you guys think about a simple single-elimination tournament. That would be run over GameReplays.org if there are at least 8 players. - 10k$ No Rules - A small map pool so that "standard ZH players" don't need to adapt too much to the maps and more to the faction - Possibly we could ask for a small money input if that is doable - Free Armies - GenTool or GameRanger one should be mandatory Tell me what do you think and how many players we got from this community. ReLaX -------------------- |
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20 Nov 2015, 19:07
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The Forums American Hotshot Flyboy Group: Tester Posts: 2859 Joined: 22 November 2012 From: The foundation of modern freedom and Liberty;United States of America. Member No.: 9500 |
There was a tournament with some toxic members that got banned that ended awhile back.
Plus there was another one of Angels birthday that I was in but I was inactive so I got disqualified Im not sure you can find an active playerbase from just this forum.You should try ROTR, Its much more alive...Not to mention more balenced. Due to some lets say "drama" by someone I quit shw till furthure notice. Should mention I appritiate that you want to bring people from the ZH GR community here, but Imo you should best wait for the 1.2 version thats coming soon... -------------------- |
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20 Nov 2015, 19:29
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Arena maker Group: Tester Posts: 803 Joined: 24 November 2013 From: In front of da screen Member No.: 10203 |
ZH players come to this forum...
They play ROTR.. then they try to organize a Shockwave tournament... You are not the first and probably not the last. The cycle continues. xD This post has been edited by XAttus: 20 Nov 2015, 19:29 -------------------- XAttus
-game anyone? The Hunter - Nobody wants to play bombtruck simulator with you |
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20 Nov 2015, 21:05
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Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: 27 January 2010 From: Russia Member No.: 713 |
In my last tournament there was 1 player, I closed tournament, maybe I will try again soon. The fact is shockwave is allmost dead, and it's sadly for me.
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20 Nov 2015, 21:31
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Group: Members Posts: 67 Joined: 7 May 2015 Member No.: 11275 |
With the bugs and imbalaces known to almost everyone, why would people join in the first place?
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21 Nov 2015, 8:51
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Group: Members Posts: 65 Joined: 18 November 2015 Member No.: 12368 |
Which Major Bugs or imbalances?
Any links to topic you can provide? I played 0.951 which had some Unit which needed tweaks. Not playIng and then releasing next Version is quite the wrong way. Shockwave is the mod which is close to ZH. Much more than ROTR. ReLaX -------------------- |
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21 Nov 2015, 22:08
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Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 3 January 2014 Member No.: 10254 |
for example
GLA salvage general is op - quads, triple barrel heroic marauders etc. US Armor - collects money much faster than others, his planes are resistant to emp, usa decoy drone cant be targeted by rockets + others Just wait for new patch, i think that many players will try shockwave again, and maybe some new guys. This post has been edited by zourv: 21 Nov 2015, 22:08 |
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21 Nov 2015, 22:15
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Arena maker Group: Tester Posts: 803 Joined: 24 November 2013 From: In front of da screen Member No.: 10203 |
Laser general is a bit overkill as it is... many are complaining about Salvage as well. With ROTR being the biggest thing on this forum a lot of people are not too hyped about ZH or ZH style gameplay.
You'll have to adapt or move on, like the rest of those who tried to set up Shockwave tournaments here. -------------------- XAttus
-game anyone? The Hunter - Nobody wants to play bombtruck simulator with you |
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22 Nov 2015, 2:50
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Group: Members Posts: 62 Joined: 28 March 2015 From: Russia, Wiipury Member No.: 10944 old bastard |
Should mention I appritiate that you want to bring people from the ZH GR community here, but Imo you should best wait for the 1.2 version thats coming soon... sure?) -------------------- when you say a little - it is easier to stick to what has been said © Sauli Niinistö
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22 Nov 2015, 9:15
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Group: Members Posts: 65 Joined: 18 November 2015 Member No.: 12368 |
I dont quite understand why there's a mod and everyone is telling to play not this Version. Are there some replays backing up the problems mentioned?
If there will be a tourney with Shockwave it should also point to possible problems. Gamereplays.org is and will be the most activity ZH Page that's why it is important to have a mod which is close to ZH. -------------------- |
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22 Nov 2015, 16:17
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-Mr.$TriKeR^ Group: Members Posts: 179 Joined: 28 January 2015 Member No.: 10843 Here is a good place for the meeting of generals and sharing tips and experiences about the game and to help newcomers to resolve any issues regarding the mods! |
Well, what do you guys think about a simple single-elimination tournament. That would be run over GameReplays.org if there are at least 8 players. - 10k$ No Rules - A small map pool so that "standard ZH players" don't need to adapt too much to the maps and more to the faction - Possibly we could ask for a small money input if that is doable - Free Armies - GenTool or GameRanger one should be mandatory Tell me what do you think and how many players we got from this community. ReLaX Well Relax... This Year we had 5 Shockwave Tournaments with Success!!! Just see: 1st(by Squak): Group Stage: http://challonge.com/ShockWave200/groups Single Elimiation: http://challonge.com/shockwave1 2nd( Shockwave League by Striker and DustyRhodes ): http://cyberbattle.org/en/1vs1shockwaveleague 3rd(Shockwave: in the waiting of new version by Angel): http://cyberbattle.org/en/cup576 4th ( 1vs1 Shockwave Tournament by Striker and DustyRhodes) : http://cyberbattle.org/en/1vs1shockwavetournament 5h ( Angel's birthday Shockwave Tournament ): http://cyberbattle.org/en/cup594 So.... i think a Shockwave Tournament with a good marketing effort work, publicity, and a good divulgation in several forums ( GameReplays.org, SWR Forums, Generals ZH.ru, Tunngle, Skype Group, E-mail invitation, a video announcing the tournament...) and other ways can bring several players to participate in the tournament ... This post has been edited by strikershockwave: 22 Nov 2015, 16:19 |
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22 Nov 2015, 17:53
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Group: Members Posts: 65 Joined: 18 November 2015 Member No.: 12368 |
Means forcing GenTool is not a good idea?
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22 Nov 2015, 19:03
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-Mr.$TriKeR^ Group: Members Posts: 179 Joined: 28 January 2015 Member No.: 10843 Here is a good place for the meeting of generals and sharing tips and experiences about the game and to help newcomers to resolve any issues regarding the mods! |
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22 Nov 2015, 19:26
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Group: Members Posts: 65 Joined: 18 November 2015 Member No.: 12368 |
I played SHW all the time with genTool over gameranger.
Don't know if protection is still there. -------------------- |
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22 Nov 2015, 23:46
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-Mr.$TriKeR^ Group: Members Posts: 179 Joined: 28 January 2015 Member No.: 10843 Here is a good place for the meeting of generals and sharing tips and experiences about the game and to help newcomers to resolve any issues regarding the mods! |
I played SHW all the time with genTool over gameranger. Don't know if protection is still there. Sorry, I meant that with Gentool version 7.0 was possible to play shockwave in cnc online servers, but after 7.0 in the latest versions(7.1 and 7.2) is already no longer possible to play through revora servers... I also always play with gentool! This post has been edited by strikershockwave: 22 Nov 2015, 23:47 |
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25 Nov 2015, 14:12
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Group: Members Posts: 65 Joined: 18 November 2015 Member No.: 12368 |
http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...howtopic=972622
A poll has been started on GameReplays.org to define the Shockwave Tournament a little bit more. Would be nice if you could add your thoughts! This post has been edited by -ReLaX: 25 Nov 2015, 14:12 -------------------- |
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25 Nov 2015, 17:46
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That person Group: Project Leader Posts: 1425 Joined: 20 September 2009 From: Cyberspace Member No.: 417 C&C ShockWave Co-Leader |
I honestly would wait for the patch that is being worked on. The released version has many issues that would make a tournament difficult to hold fairly.
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25 Nov 2015, 19:57
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Group: Members Posts: 65 Joined: 18 November 2015 Member No.: 12368 |
I am sure not ever imbalance is Shown or proven by replays some how. That's why it is important to play. What if you See things in the next Version which should have been Seen just now? That would be just Bad. Did you have a look at the Details of the tourney?
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26 Nov 2015, 22:44
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Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 3 January 2014 Member No.: 10254 |
Btw, camera in shockwave is placed higher compared do vanilla zh, newest gentool versions remove that feature and so gentool shouldnt be mandatory.
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26 Nov 2015, 22:48
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Group: Members Posts: 65 Joined: 18 November 2015 Member No.: 12368 |
Didn't notice yet and I played with and without GenTool.
Majority up to the poll is now saying they want to play protected. Also Random Balance is always nice to have if you ask me even if China can scout now earlier. ReLaX -------------------- |
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27 Nov 2015, 13:39
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That person Group: Project Leader Posts: 1425 Joined: 20 September 2009 From: Cyberspace Member No.: 417 C&C ShockWave Co-Leader |
I am sure not ever imbalance is Shown or proven by replays some how. That's why it is important to play. What if you See things in the next Version which should have been Seen just now? That would be just Bad. Did you have a look at the Details of the tourney? Thing is, we have a ton of data on the overpowered factions due to having 4+ years of replays and also recorded data. Because of this, the overpowered units are very well known. For example (but not even close to limited to): Salvaged Quads (Including Quad Tanks, since they start with level 1 salvage), Laser PDL BattleDrones, Bullfrogs, etc. This post has been edited by Generalcamo: 27 Nov 2015, 13:40 |
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27 Nov 2015, 15:18
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Group: Members Posts: 65 Joined: 18 November 2015 Member No.: 12368 |
Can you pick some of them and post them?
Laser PDL BattleDrone ist that over-powered? -------------------- |
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27 Nov 2015, 16:03
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League is Life Group: Tester Posts: 748 Joined: 14 June 2009 From: America Member No.: 153 |
Ah i remember you from quite some time ago RelaX you were always a high quality player who didnt jump the "its not fair boat" as quickly as a some of the players on this forum.
Shockwave is probably dying out because the lack of updates If your concerned about what people consider OP in shockwave its the following Mdvee- Quad tank- White napalm Migs- vChina late game scaling- Laser generals burst damage across the board- These are just some small examples i disagree very strongly because sometimes you just get a bad match up like in any real time strategy or well ANY GAME EVER Alot of players aren't creative with there builds and that leads to people jumping to the conclusion something is imbalanced or OP. While this may be true to an extent and shockwave has its fair share of problems I fell like tactical diversity is way more possible. |
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27 Nov 2015, 16:36
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Group: Members Posts: 65 Joined: 18 November 2015 Member No.: 12368 |
Ah i remember you from quite some time ago RelaX you were always a high quality player who didnt jump the "its not fair boat" as quickly as a some of the players on this forum. Shockwave is probably dying out because the lack of updates If your concerned about what people consider OP in shockwave its the following Mdvee- Quad tank- White napalm Migs- vChina late game scaling- Laser generals burst damage across the board- These are just some small examples i disagree very strongly because sometimes you just get a bad match up like in any real time strategy or well ANY GAME EVER Alot of players aren't creative with there builds and that leads to people jumping to the conclusion something is imbalanced or OP. While this may be true to an extent and shockwave has its fair share of problems I fell like tactical diversity is way more possible. Missile Defender Vees are nerfed in SHA compared to ZH just because the ambulance don't heal, which is good. The Quad Tank is actual not okay if you ask me. White napalm I didn't test yet. What you mean by vChina late game scaling, which combination do you think of? Laser generals burst damage across the board- --> You mean sll Lasertanks? -------------------- |
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27 Nov 2015, 17:24
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Group: Members Posts: 67 Joined: 7 May 2015 Member No.: 11275 |
I've read people find Leang's flame tanks too strong. Idk why, cause normal flame tanks seems more useful cause of the flame wall ability....
And, no idea how Mdvees can be OP in any way; if anything, the new SW stuff compared to ZH just has even more options to counter them o.0 About vChina, perhaps the awesome AT Infernos, cheap and good Battlemasters and nice air force make it seem OP.? This post has been edited by FabulousPug: 27 Nov 2015, 17:29 |
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