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SWR Productions Forum _ Rise of the Reds _ How to survive against China and Russia if you are GLA, ECA or USA?

Posted by: OrikoMikuni 25 Jan 2020, 5:19

I played against my friend on some rare occasions due to our constant busy time and I found that Russian tank blob coped with Grumble or Chinese nuke and flame based weapon are my worst nightmare. I still failed to find an effective idea how to deal with them as the moment my friend got a critical number of it he just roll flat into my base. I can't get enough long range defense against Nuke Cannon or Gorgon if I played ECA. As for USA and GLA if I couldn't rush my friend to victory then I got no idea how to win against the Russian tanks. Any advice would be appreciated.

Posted by: XoGamer 26 Jan 2020, 12:30

QUOTE (OrikoMikuni @ 25 Jan 2020, 4:19) *
I played against my friend on some rare occasions due to our constant busy time and I found that Russian tank blob coped with Grumble or Chinese nuke and flame based weapon are my worst nightmare. I still failed to find an effective idea how to deal with them as the moment my friend got a critical number of it he just roll flat into my base. I can't get enough long range defense against Nuke Cannon or Gorgon if I played ECA. As for USA and GLA if I couldn't rush my friend to victory then I got no idea how to win against the Russian tanks. Any advice would be appreciated.


For ECA, try doing a sort of multilayered defence system, make sure you have lots of upgraded forts with Panzers inside, lots of gun turrets but most importantly Howitzers which can outrange most, if not all, artillery in the game. You can micro Howitzers by telling them to fire at a spot, pressing Stop and telling them to fire again, which can catch your opponent off guard (the Howitzer will keep the ammunition)
If you wanted to try really hard, get Mole Minelayers and cover the whole map, use the Pegasus Drop to cover even more and basically choke your opponent to death.
Upgraded Marksman in 1.87 can call in Missile Strikes on targets.
Get Pandora to invalidate Sentinels and you're in the clear.

While playing as USA or GLA, you need to gain a strategic advantage over your opponent (or sort of a snowball effect).
Try rushing with Hunter Killers as USA, and with Anarchist Bikes or Anarchist Technicals as GLA to take out Supply Centres, Dozers or whatever you can find.

PS. Anarchist Bikes are stealth after upgraded and can level important buildings (like Breed Reactor) if you can sneak them in.

The main focus as USA & GLA is don't wait for your opponent whatsoever. For ECA, take your sweet time building up your defences but make sure you are correctly microing every aspect of your defence.

Against China don't forget that their vehicles are very fragile and they are very susceptible to AOE attacks, stuff like Grand Mortars (1.87), Anthrax Bomb Trucks, Grads, NHawks/Tomahawks (sorta)
And their vehicles can usually be killed in one-on-one fights against Crusaders or Leopards.

Hope this helps smile.gif

Posted by: OrikoMikuni 28 Jan 2020, 12:11

Thanks for the advice. smile.gif

Posted by: X1Destroy 1 Feb 2020, 3:02

ECA vs China is a chore. It's been like that since older versions. ECA have longer range artillery but China have Inferno cannon. Nothing can kill buildings faster than groups of them.

It will just devolve into who can spam faster. Enough Howitzers and mortar pits would just stop any attempts to nuke your base. But enough nuke and inferno spam breaking a weakpoint can screw you over, too.

As for Russia, the only thing that you need to pay attention on is the Msta and Goliath choppers. Try to suicide your jets to kill Grumbles if you can afford it. Not being able to use airforce against Russia will make it 50% harder to beat.

Unless you're USA and can laugh it off with F35 spam, kill the BlackBear whenever it appear with anything from distance. Your army will not survive a toe to toe engagement with it as the center of a tank spam. ECA are screwed if they don't pick Pandora, though.


Posted by: OrikoMikuni 22 Mar 2020, 3:16

Yeah that Goliath system Russian Hind is annoying as well, somehow their helicopter are way too tanky when that thing is activated and not to mention they are already tanky by default. But then again Russia is all about heavy armor and heavy protection so it just fit them well enough.

Posted by: XoGamer 3 Apr 2020, 9:53

QUOTE (OrikoMikuni @ 22 Mar 2020, 2:16) *
Yeah that Goliath system Russian Hind is annoying as well, somehow their helicopter are way too tanky when that thing is activated and not to mention they are already tanky by default. But then again Russia is all about heavy armor and heavy protection so it just fit them well enough.


there's not much you can do about that except stacking T2 AA. Wotans/Grumbles/Patriots can sometimes invalidate Goliath via AOE damage.

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