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post 6 Jul 2009, 4:34
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QUOTE (Stug IV @ 6 Jul 2009, 2:08) *
That is a Sdfkz 251 with the 6 Wufranmen 40 300mm rockets. Used in real life and featured in Company OF Heroes. Always glad to see another WW2 vehicile!


Actually it isnt, its seems to be inspired a lot for it, but isnt a Sdfkz 251


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post 6 Jul 2009, 8:02
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I am surely loving the new updates in both of your mods. This time I'll surely play the Nuke overlord once again. And once again great job team. smile.gif


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post 6 Jul 2009, 8:55
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Blitz general, If overlords could shot down planes *which incudes infantry* Quickly , what could stop them??
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post 6 Jul 2009, 10:20
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sweet update but would the launch of those missiles burned the radar? aw2.gif

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post 6 Jul 2009, 14:47
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QUOTE (Zhao @ 6 Jul 2009, 6:55) *
Blitz general, If overlords could shot down planes *which incudes infantry* Quickly , what could stop them??


Better not cross the "looks imbalance line" now, as far as i know we didnt try this new overlord, we dont know how much damage and reload time it has


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post 6 Jul 2009, 14:50
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No reason to worry about balance guys, the balance team does a good job at that.
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post 6 Jul 2009, 19:15
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QUOTE (Zhao @ 6 Jul 2009, 6:55) *
Blitz general, If overlords could shot down planes *which incudes infantry* Quickly , what could stop them??

IIRC an overlord with a gatling cannon can do just that 8I.png UI8.gif

offtopic note, the two greens I posted are identical but are different entities in the smiley list


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post 6 Jul 2009, 20:10
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QUOTE (Stinger @ 5 Jul 2009, 21:44) *
It contains 72 virgins, all neatly packaged and ready to blow up.

That is probably the worst misunderstood stereotype btw...
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post 6 Jul 2009, 20:29
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QUOTE (Beef @ 6 Jul 2009, 17:10) *
That is probably the worst misunderstood stereotype btw...


If you are playing a game like Generals that is chock full of stereotypes then I really wonder why you bothered to mention that. serious.gif


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I dunno it's one of my pet peeves that 72 virgin thing.
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post 8 Jul 2009, 2:09
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If I remember correctly there was no upgrade slots left. Does this mean we're losing a current upgrade, since was mentioned that the gattling turrets are getting their stealth detection back, will we losing the radar upgrade?


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post 8 Jul 2009, 3:18
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I like the Camel and the idea behind Tao's upgrade, but the model looks somewhat ridiculous. I know it's nonsense to complain about practicality in Shockwave, but the thing looks like it would tilt onto its back. It's, like, really huge in the back, with missiles, towers, dishes, radar, turrets, etc, and skinny in the front.

Anyway, model detail is a minimal part of the game, but as someone else said, it looks more like a "crazy" mod model than a Shockwave model.
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post 8 Jul 2009, 5:04
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QUOTE (Darkfire Angel @ 8 Jul 2009, 8:09) *
If I remember correctly there was no upgrade slots left. Does this mean we're losing a current upgrade
As I understand it this will remain exactly the same in terms of upgrade count because it combines the radar and missiles into one, removing the previous radar-only add-on. IIRC (but I may very well not) Overlord upgrades may not count toward the total.
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since was mentioned that the gattling turrets are getting their stealth detection back, will we losing the radar upgrade?
That dish on the model is the radar; it comes along with the Tactical Nuclear Missiles upgrade.


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QUOTE (Darkfire Angel @ 7 Jul 2009, 23:09) *
will we losing the radar upgrade?


I like to think we are gaining as the Overlord Radar didn't add much to gameplay. But to answer your question: yes, the Overlord Radar has been removed. I think that will be quickly forgotten in the grand scheme of things, however. wink.gif


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post 8 Jul 2009, 11:57
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I can't agree more with you.
I had never the opportunity to utilize it a single time even against stealth general,the backup radar that provided in case of HQ destroyed was an intelligent addition but gamplay wise with very little application IMO (it still needed power IIRC), the big radar mounted on top was also quite strange and cartoonish.

For me is already forgotten.
Bye bye radar awful dish. 8llaniflip.gif ani8b.gif


The only question now if the Kwai overlord will remain with just a single add-on or will get a new exiting upgrade, i'm waiting a wait and see answer but a yes or no qould be very appreciated.

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post 8 Jul 2009, 12:01
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QUOTE (CommanderJB @ 8 Jul 2009, 3:04) *
IIRC (but I may very well not) Overlord upgrades may not count toward the total.

Sadly not, all kind of upgrades (globals, unit specific upgrades and the hidden ones^^) count towards the 128. With a semi-perfect workaround I increased the current 128 so-to-speak via decreasing the amount of unitspecific upgrades to 8.

QUOTE (Stinger @ 8 Jul 2009, 3:39) *
I like to think we are gaining as the Overlord Radar didn't add much to gameplay. But to answer your question: yes, the Overlord Radar has been removed. I think that will be quickly forgotten in the grand scheme of things, however. wink.gif

Well, the radar had the nice function of giving one radar even when the CC was destroyed or low-powered.
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I don't have my mod of SW on hand but yes there are a number of ways that upgrade slots can be reduced. I know that there is a redundant Scorpion Rocket upgrade for Thrax. I also combined the Drone weapons upgrades, the ravage and reactive armor upgrades, and the autoloader upgrades. The rest of my fixes involved changing units, ie the laser humvee starts with a laser and gets a laser guided tow upgrade. The only one that I've mention though that confused me was Thrax's scorpion rocket, since it cost the same, used the same cameo and didn't effect any ingame aspects. I assume the team knew about it though.
Also will the radars function as a spare radar now be moved to the Listening Outpost? Or do we lose it all together, having said that I never even knew about it till just now.


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post 8 Jul 2009, 15:31
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QUOTE (Darkfire Angel @ 8 Jul 2009, 11:56) *
The only one that I've mention though that confused me was Thrax's scorpion rocket, since it cost the same, used the same cameo and didn't effect any ingame aspects. I assume the team knew about it though.
They use different cameos. Thrax' Scorpion Rocket upgrade cameo depicts Thrax' replacement Scorpion model.

QUOTE (Darkfire Angel @ 8 Jul 2009, 11:56) *
Also will the radars function as a spare radar now be moved to the Listening Outpost? Or do we lose it all together, having said that I never even knew about it till just now.
AFAIK there were no plans for that, but you never know wink.gif .


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post 8 Jul 2009, 16:29
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If you want radar you're going to have to purchase it at the China Command Center. You won't be able to get it anywhere else, and that includes the Listening Outpost. The GLA are the radar vehicle faction.

This is going off topic so if you would like to continue it elsewhere then we may start a Q&A thread.


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QUOTE (Stinger @ 8 Jul 2009, 14:29) *
This is going off topic so if you would like to continue it elsewhere then we may start a Q&A thread.

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QUOTE (Stinger @ 8 Jul 2009, 14:29) *
This is going off topic so if you would like to continue it elsewhere then we may start a Q&A thread.

Yes please.


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QUOTE (Stug IV @ 6 Jul 2009, 1:08) *
That is a Sdfkz 251 with the 6 Wufranmen 40 300mm rockets. Used in real life and featured in Company OF Heroes. Always glad to see another WW2 vehicile!


I already said that tongue.gif

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Actually it isnt, its seems to be inspired a lot for it, but isnt a Sdfkz 251


This

Besides, the body of the Camel Launcher is barely similar to the actual Sdfkz 251. The only real similarities are the 6 launchers and that both vehicles are half-tracks. And if you haven't noticed yet, the Camel has 2 pairs of road wheels, whereas the Sdfkz only has one.

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are the new gens are getting AI's? i want to choose random opponents! tongue.gif


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QUOTE (DarKPaladiN @ 13 Jul 2009, 19:38) *
are the new gens are getting AI's? i want to choose random opponents! tongue.gif
Yes smile.gif . Note that this has been confirmed multiple times already though wink.gif .


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Hello, please excuse the "strange" English.
I can not so good and I have it translated O_o.

When can I download the new version of SH ?
I'm anxious already full, the images can be very promising.
I hope only that this balances out, in the current version 0.951
SH was quite often not working properly. I don't know why...

..but its the Best Mod for C&C ZH wink.gif ! - EVER - i like it !!!

P.S. Can i Play SH Online via Hamachi ?!
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