recyclers are OP because.. Options

[Kazan]

one salvage upgrade should be given only to the recycler that picks the salvage and not to all the recyclers that you can make.. that makes them OP as we saw in the first match of the last stream!

[katmoda12]

Also giving two cannons to one marauder for every 2-3 salvages is FRIKKING OP!!

We should remove the whole salvage mechanic all together. ASAP

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And we should add Australia as a new faction. (KANGAROOs with LASERs!!)

[ComradeCrimson]

I suggest to wait till you try it out first, because the things aren't impossible to beat. And yes, salvaged marauders are supposed to be tough. If you let the enemy upgrade them and don't deal with them immediately its your own fault, and this is coming from a guy who goes random 93% of the time and often fights said.

Edit: Also, stats are subject to change constantly.



This post has been edited by ComradeCrimson: 3 Mar 2015, 10:23

[Kazan]

Edit: Also, stats are subject to change constantly.

hmm that sounds promising..

[Tico1990]

hmm that sounds promising..

If you are talking about the match where ten or so microcyclers were talking down buildings with ease, than I think that you'd get the same effect with, for example, ten nuke cannons. Also, from what I've gathered so far, recyclers aren't exactly the most armoured vehicles.

[Emin96]

As far I heart from the moderator and some beta tester
Recycler aren't op because its hard to to recycle if enemy protect him salvage its hard
And take in mind that recycler have armour like piece of paper
Its easy to destroy.so don't worry
My advice in 1.85 try them and test them then we will see.

[XAttus]

Streams can be misleading when you try to judge a unit's performance or "OP-ness". In that particular match both of the players were playing factions they were not familiar with and that resulted in an uncoventional and chaotic game.

You don't seem to know much about pvp mechanics and I didn't see you playing on our hamachi network either, and most importantly you are judging something you have no experience with.

It'd make much more sense to analyze that game and discuss why it ended that way instead of calling the nerfhammer on something you didn't even try at all.

[{Lads}RikerZZZ]

And we should add Australia as a new faction. (KANGAROOs with LASERs!!)

As an Australian i would be very happy with that

[Nemanja]

one salvage upgrade should be given only to the recycler that picks the salvage and not to all the recyclers that you can make.. that makes them OP as we saw in the first match of the last stream!

I think if it is like that then whole Recycler mechanic should be scrapped.

But I am pretty sure it isn't like that,since took us like last fifty streams to actually see Recyclers putting some work in.
And on top of that we've seen them against player that was literally sleeping in his corner of the map as game was nearing an end.

[Evan]

IIRC The players were SWIMMING in money. Able to crank out Recycler's like a Chinese sweatshop does Nike's.

It takes the opposing team being careless with protecting the Salvage that lost the match. If it become an issue where you don't want to face that (or any) Recycler's I would suggest you don't let the GLA get a hold of them. A single howitzer to rain on that location and you wouldn't have a chance in getting it.

[Shiro]

To be fair, non-GLA players don't see the salvage and might forget about it.

[Comr4de]

[Mr.Kim]

Also giving two cannons to one marauder for every 2-3 salvages is FRIKKING OP!!

Even max 2 salvages, it's still not good enough kill against strong defense or units.

[teslashark]

As an Australian i would be very happy with that

Your chair is taken by the C&C3 Fallout mod.

[kezsonaj]

one salvage upgrade should be given only to the recycler that picks the salvage and not to all the recyclers that you can make.. that makes them OP as we saw in the first match of the last stream!

If you are basing that off the stream, then you must have missed the part when The Hunter mentioned that the Recycler Wotan Array Beams weren't good against armored vehicles. If GLA only got one upgrade per salvage box then the Recylcer Mechanic would be broken and pointless as a tactic. I think you should watch some previous streams on how the Recycler works. That's like me calling ECA Overpowered because... they can snipe anything with their artillery, OP is always used in the wrong context.

This post has been edited by kezsonaj: 3 Mar 2015, 18:48

[8igDaddy8lake]

Things to point out about recyclers:

- can't shoot aircraft, pretty much doomed against them unless covered by lots of AA
- very little armor, a few shots of artillery/aircraft/fast-moving strike vehicles can destroy them
- not super fast, so they can't really run away effectively from most attacks
- very role-specific, based on upgrade - most forms are just super effective against one thing, and that's about it
- expensive - can't field a large number of them unless you have a VERY healthy economy

[Mr.Kim]

- expensive - can't field a large number of them unless you have a VERY healthy economy

The number is really doesn't matter and mostly upgrades are pretty cheap .

[Shiro]

The number is really doesn't matter and mostly upgrades are pretty cheap .

That's true, it almost feels like you can upgrade your stuff for free

[8igDaddy8lake]

The number is really doesn't matter and mostly upgrades are pretty cheap .

Oh really? I thought they were more expensive...the Recycler is something like $1000 unupgraded, right?

[Pandut]

The Recycler is a support unit. If you try to spam it like an Assault platform... you're gonna have a bad time.

[Lizvne]

Recyclers are OP because we don't have 1.85!

[The_Hunter]

Recyclers are OP because we don't have 1.85!

Also this Thread is OP because i think so without properly thinking about it in the first place.......

[Emin96]

How you can judge an unit that you dont tryed them yet?

wait 1.85.after say your opinion.

recycler is op discussion is discussed long time ago

[Oliver]

I don't even care about balance issues lol if it is cool, then i'm happy with it

[LayZboy]

The only thing I would add (if even possible) is that buying more upgrades makes them cost more, so for example every 2 units you buy the upgrades on, it costs 50 more monies to do the 3rd, and 50 more on the 5th and so on. Getting new scrap would reset it back to it original cheap cost. It would place a more dependence on getting more scrap rather than the 1 and done affair it is now. I doubt even such a thing like this is possible though.