ROTR 1.87 Update 3 |
ROTR 1.87 Update 3 |
21 Apr 2016, 22:09
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Group: Administrator Posts: 5732 Joined: 31 May 2009 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 1 Projects: SWR Productions Bitch slapping SAGE since 2003 |
Hello again ROTR fans!
This week, we've got something a bit more elaborate to show you. First, I'd like to mention that we've completely revamped the GLA airforce which also includes some new additions to simplify the whole thing, to make it easier to use, and most important of all, more fun. For one, the current Interceptor and Gazelle now have a fixed loadout that can no longer be changed, making their intended function more clearly defined. Additionally, each level of the unlock now grants you access to an extra airstrip, allowing you to construct a maximum of three at the third stage of the unlock. To make up for the fact the changes in armament, the GLA will also receive two new aircraft, the first of which is the Mi-6 Hook helicopter: As of late, Mi-6 cargo helicopters have been sighted supporting GLA forces in several conflict zones across Africa. Codenamed the 'Hook' by NATO during the Cold War, this rugged piece of Soviet-Russian engineering was the world's largest and fastest helicopter for quite some time following its introduction back in the 1950s and despite its age, it is still a versatile heavy transport. The GLA use the Mi-6 to quickly airlift troops and materiel to the battlefield. Military intelligence agencies still speculate as to how the GLA got a hold of the the aging helicopters, with at least some of them having been traced back to corrupt elements within the armed forces of Kazakhstan, the Ukraine and a number of African countries. Reports have indicated that the GLA have modified a number of their Mi-6 Hook airframes to serve as transport gunships similar in function to the famous Mi-24 Hind. A variety of anti-tank missiles and rockets of former Soviet and Chinese origin have been mounted on pylons under the helicopter's wings and auto cannons are mounted on each side of the fuselage near the fore. The jury-rigged conversion has a significant negative effect on the helicopter's manoeuvrability and acceleration, but its firepower is very considerable and it retains a degree of transport capability. Extreme caution is advised when encountering any of these modified helicopters. And again, some screenshots showing our new content in-game: The first screenshot shows a small GLA expansion where a Scorpion is being dropped off by the new Mi-6 cargo helicopter. Note that this particular version of the Hook is used purely as an uncontrollabe delivery aircraft for drops. The second screenshot shows the new Fanatics and RPG Insurgents which will be spawned from a GLA Ambush from now on instead of generic Rebels and Tunnel Defenders. The change is purely visual. As always, we would like to remind you that there will be another stream on this Sunday: Countdown until the stream starts Also, in case you missed last week's stream, you can check it out here. -------------------- |
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23 Apr 2016, 2:58
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Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: 23 July 2012 From: China Member No.: 9241 |
I LOVE BIG GUNS!
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23 Apr 2016, 4:46
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That person Group: Project Leader Posts: 1425 Joined: 20 September 2009 From: Cyberspace Member No.: 417 C&C ShockWave Co-Leader |
Nice work! I cant wait to see the rest of the changes to the GLA airforce. I have a few questions though. Does the hook work in the same way as the mi 8 from general deathstrike? Like, you buy the transport version and you can upgrade it to the gunship? Also the gazelle and interceptor do they keep the default weapon loadout they have right now? Or is that still subject to change? No. You buy the gunship. The transport is only used to deliver vehicles, currently only applicable to the Reinforcement Bay. |
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23 Apr 2016, 21:44
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Stealth Mode Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 11 April 2015 From: EveryWhere Member No.: 11090 |
SO you tell me that the options like (Capture buildings, Detonate buildings) is no longer exist in the Ambush coz there's no more rebels and tunnel defenders in the Ambush ?!!
if that's right, i'll not install this update, it'll be a great mistake to take this options from the Ambush, coz i always use this options when make a quiet stealth Ambush ! This post has been edited by InGhmasy: 27 Apr 2016, 19:48 -------------------- "Cowards see vapid impotence as sense, Such is treacherous villainy’s defense.
Each of valour’s divers forms enriches, But valiant wisdom is of worth immense" |
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23 Apr 2016, 21:58
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Gamer Girl Group: Legend Posts: 3808 Joined: 19 June 2009 From: Disboard Member No.: 182 Friendly Freelancer |
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23 Apr 2016, 22:13
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Chat Nick Group: Members Posts: 845 Joined: 12 April 2015 From: Serbia Member No.: 11096 If you ever decide to invade Russia, for the love of God, bring some warm clothes. We don't want you to blame the "evil Russian winter" when you get crushed, like everyone else who tried. |
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23 Apr 2016, 23:44
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Certified Shitposter Group: Tester Posts: 2410 Joined: 30 December 2013 From: Straya' Member No.: 10248 pls join my games im lonely =c |
SO you tell me that the options like (Capture buildings, Detonate buildings) is no longer exist in the Ambush coz there's no more rebels and tunnel defenders?!! if that's right, i'll not install this update, it'll be a great mistake to take this options from the Ambush, coz i always use this options when make a quiet stealth Ambush ! -------------------- Many thanks to IvanMRM for my avatar and Star for drawing my epic signature. You guys rock! Join our Discord Server for a great community and plenty of games and memes! Also, check out our ROTR - Fan group on Facebook. |
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24 Apr 2016, 7:50
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Motherland's Finest Group: Members Posts: 1043 Joined: 10 May 2014 Member No.: 10454 "We have watched, we have waited, now... we act!" |
SO you tell me that the options like (Capture buildings, Detonate buildings) is no longer exist in the Ambush coz there's no more rebels and tunnel defenders?!! if that's right, i'll not install this update, it'll be a great mistake to take this options from the Ambush, coz i always use this options when make a quiet stealth Ambush ! hmm... that's actually cute. If it's the case. *Insert Rik's meme here* -------------------- |
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24 Apr 2016, 7:52
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Group: Dev. Team Posts: 1242 Joined: 26 July 2014 Member No.: 10559 |
I like big guns and I cannot lie
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24 Apr 2016, 9:21
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Group: Members Posts: 97 Joined: 14 December 2015 Member No.: 12425 |
hmm... that's actually cute. If it's the case. *Insert Rik's meme here* I dunno guys but after you turned down my engineer-rush idea in the first update topic, I threw myself into Hecthor Doomhammer's Youtube channel to see what is the meta about quick-countering drive-by attacks... I must say, some of this stuff was really disheartening, and this is just a random Lynx with some Panzerfaust - now imagine this with an Engineer instead of the Medic, capturing and selling Bruce's Arms Dealer... his only Arms Dealer at that point. While I do not intent to draw grand conclusions, it looks like some of these tactics you guys laugh at are actually quite viable even at tournament-player level. |
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24 Apr 2016, 9:39
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Motherland's Finest Group: Members Posts: 1043 Joined: 10 May 2014 Member No.: 10454 "We have watched, we have waited, now... we act!" |
I dunno guys but after you turned down my engineer-rush idea in the first update topic, I threw myself into Hecthor Doomhammer's Youtube channel to see what is the meta about quick-countering drive-by attacks... I must say, some of this stuff was really disheartening, and this is just a random Lynx with some Panzerfaust - now imagine this with an Engineer instead of the Medic, capturing and selling Bruce's Arms Dealer... his only Arms Dealer at that point. While I do not intent to draw grand conclusions, it looks like some of these tactics you guys laugh at are actually quite viable even at tournament-player level. Im really sorry if I made you feel down or offended you in any way,back then. On this case,I just dont see any balance related issue if you cant field quads by the time he built a lynx,an engineer,and drove it all across the map to your base.On tournament level games,players will and must scout. You need to set up 2-3 forward scouts across the map,and be vigilant (as a spehz murin) and watch for incoming rushes. That way,you could act and prepare accordingly. This post has been edited by TimeBurner: 24 Apr 2016, 9:42 -------------------- |
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24 Apr 2016, 9:49
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Group: Members Posts: 97 Joined: 14 December 2015 Member No.: 12425 |
Im really sorry if I made you feel down or offended you in any way,back then. You actually made me genuinely curious. I'm a simple casual, but that argument made me eye with the tourney scene . On this case,I just dont see any balance related issue if you cant field a quads by the time he built a lynx,an engineer,and drove it all across the map to your base.On tournament level games,players will and must scout. You need to set up 2-3 forward scouts across the map,and be vigilant (as a spehz murin) and watch for incoming rushes. That way,you could act and prepare accordingly. Yet, Bruce still sucked it up in the example video. If Mizo had a better unit composition in that drive-by, it would be pretty much game right there. |
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24 Apr 2016, 9:53
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Shockwave & ROTR Fan Group: Members Posts: 156 Joined: 10 May 2015 From: Philippines Member No.: 11315 DavidNeump |
Fantastic update guys, love the gunship and visual update for ambush soldiers. The simplified fighter option sounds good
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24 Apr 2016, 10:09
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AI Coding Expert Group: Dev. Team Posts: 1846 Joined: 9 May 2014 From: Poland Member No.: 10450 |
I dunno guys but after you turned down my engineer-rush idea in the first update topic, I threw myself into Hecthor Doomhammer's Youtube channel to see what is the meta about quick-countering drive-by attacks... I must say, some of this stuff was really disheartening, and this is just a random Lynx with some Panzerfaust - now imagine this with an Engineer instead of the Medic, capturing and selling Bruce's Arms Dealer... his only Arms Dealer at that point. While I do not intent to draw grand conclusions, it looks like some of these tactics you guys laugh at are actually quite viable even at tournament-player level. If I managed to pull off what you wrote over here, then Bruce absolutely deserves it ( especially with the upcoming changes to ECA's unit timings). Keeping in mind that I am investing around +2000$ to pull of that rush, which can be stopped by a scorpion and a quad cannon , 1300$. opposing player just needs to keep his eyes openned, to attack pathways, and once you stop it, you'd set ECA back a mile since they don't really have that great flexibility when it comes to constant offensive pressure. Engineers can die to 4 tank shells, 2 bullet clips from a rebel, or by a breathe of a Quad , so you do have alot of options to kill that guy. If they were as tanky as any other infantry, they'd be broken for sure -------------------- Not a Rusty Spoon........The_Hunter uses a goddamn wooden spoon on his AI Scripters.... |
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24 Apr 2016, 10:54
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Gamer Girl Group: Legend Posts: 3808 Joined: 19 June 2009 From: Disboard Member No.: 182 Friendly Freelancer |
If Engineers were like that, they'd essentially be a mass-production version of Black Lotus. Believe me, nobody sane wants that.
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24 Apr 2016, 10:56
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Certified Shitposter Group: Tester Posts: 2410 Joined: 30 December 2013 From: Straya' Member No.: 10248 pls join my games im lonely =c |
I dunno guys but after you turned down my engineer-rush idea in the first update topic, I threw myself into Hecthor Doomhammer's Youtube channel to see what is the meta about quick-countering drive-by attacks... I must say, some of this stuff was really disheartening, and this is just a random Lynx with some Panzerfaust - now imagine this with an Engineer instead of the Medic, capturing and selling Bruce's Arms Dealer... his only Arms Dealer at that point. While I do not intent to draw grand conclusions, it looks like some of these tactics you guys laugh at are actually quite viable even at tournament-player level. Hey man, we don't intentionally shit on peoples ideas because we have anything against you. We shit on peoples ideas because we don't see them as viable. the rush you proposed is just not going to happen to a good player, and even in the example you gave, it still wouldn't work for the reasons mizo gave. Engies arent tanks, they will get died, and any good player is just going to charge on in and kill them before they deal with the rest of the enemy forces. -------------------- Many thanks to IvanMRM for my avatar and Star for drawing my epic signature. You guys rock! Join our Discord Server for a great community and plenty of games and memes! Also, check out our ROTR - Fan group on Facebook. |
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24 Apr 2016, 12:17
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The Forums American Hotshot Flyboy Group: Tester Posts: 2859 Joined: 22 November 2012 From: The foundation of modern freedom and Liberty;United States of America. Member No.: 9500 |
Im sorry what game is this In question? Dont think I've beeen on the stream for a coupel of weeks, either way the lynx engineer rush can be countered by putting a few dushkas or having a handfull of rebels inside your base in or your tunnels or not doesnt really matter.
Thou for the life of me I cant remember the last time I played gla vs an eca player This post has been edited by (USA)Bruce: 24 Apr 2016, 12:18 -------------------- |
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24 Apr 2016, 14:47
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Group: Members Posts: 97 Joined: 14 December 2015 Member No.: 12425 |
Im sorry what game is this In question? Dont think I've beeen on the stream for a coupel of weeks, either way the lynx engineer rush can be countered by putting a few dushkas or having a handfull of rebels inside your base in or your tunnels or not doesnt really matter. Obviously, if you can somehow predict the Engineer coming your way then it can be easily dealt with. Problems start when you can't, and the first thing warning you that something fishy is going on is the "your building is being captured" massage - at which point you have <10 seconds to do something about it. This can be even worse considering InGhmasy's case because it is just raining TNT and one of your buildings go *poof*. |
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24 Apr 2016, 17:14
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Group: Donator Posts: 1011 Joined: 3 February 2014 Member No.: 10281 |
Im sorry what game is this In question? Dont think I've beeen on the stream for a coupel of weeks, either way the lynx engineer rush can be countered by putting a few dushkas or having a handfull of rebels inside your base in or your tunnels or not doesnt really matter. Thou for the life of me I cant remember the last time I played gla vs an eca player That was 1 of the 8 Bruce vs Mizo game replays in that 1 pack |
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24 Apr 2016, 17:57
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Group: Tester Posts: 336 Joined: 30 June 2015 From: Game anyone? Member No.: 11665 |
If you box select a transport, then there are two outcomes:
If it is loaded: The transport won't be able to be selected, meaning there are occupants. If it is empty: The transport will be selected like any unit normally. Useful for scouting out the aforementioned lynx rush. Also remember that engineer give a lot of xp and have a long build time, hence if it fails, you are at a disadvantage in terms of money but you do buy some time. Its not that its a bad strategy necessarily but that its really hard to pull off against the common PvP player. Maybe mix it in every once in a while but don't repeat it every game otherwise it will simply be anticipated. Most factions have counters to this sort of thing anyways such as Russia/China using their trucks, GLA having fast vehicles, Dozers and much more, hence why its not exactly the strongest of strategies. This post has been edited by Marakar: 24 Apr 2016, 18:00 -------------------- Drop Commander |
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24 Apr 2016, 18:42
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Motherland's Finest Group: Members Posts: 1043 Joined: 10 May 2014 Member No.: 10454 "We have watched, we have waited, now... we act!" |
Obviously, if you can somehow predict the Engineer coming your way then it can be easily dealt with. Problems start when you can't, and the first thing warning you that something fishy is going on is the "your building is being captured" massage - at which point you have <10 seconds to do something about it. This can be even worse considering InGhmasy's case because it is just raining TNT and one of your buildings go *poof*. As I have already stated,players will and must scout always,especially early game. And as Rik stated,It is not going to happen to a good player. If you saw Spruce lost to that,that's either he isnt playing/doesnt mind or the player he is against is really good. UBER good XD -------------------- |
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25 Apr 2016, 3:13
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Stealth Mode Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 11 April 2015 From: EveryWhere Member No.: 11090 |
thanks for being ironic guys! that's make me ask what's the useful of the forum if i didn't get a profissional reply!!
This post has been edited by InGhmasy: 25 Apr 2016, 3:14 -------------------- "Cowards see vapid impotence as sense, Such is treacherous villainy’s defense.
Each of valour’s divers forms enriches, But valiant wisdom is of worth immense" |
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25 Apr 2016, 5:42
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"Filthy" Casual Group: Members Posts: 214 Joined: 30 September 2014 From: Australia Member No.: 10666 One does not simply suggest ideas to SWR. |
You expected a professional response when said "You made a grave mistake!" I won't install this!" because you failed to read the post properly? Do you realise how silly that is?
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25 Apr 2016, 12:02
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The owner of the 1st legit (and signed) CD of ShockWave Group: Moderator Posts: 637 Joined: 19 May 2013 Member No.: 9941 |
thanks for being ironic guys! that's make me ask what's the useful of the forum if i didn't get a profissional reply!! The use of this forum is to showcase new content, with COMPLETE and EXHAUSTIVE descriptions. Not to babysit people who don't read descriptions. -------------------- My Soundcloud profile: right here |
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25 Apr 2016, 12:21
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Gamer Girl Group: Legend Posts: 3808 Joined: 19 June 2009 From: Disboard Member No.: 182 Friendly Freelancer |
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25 Apr 2016, 12:33
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Group: Dev. Team Posts: 964 Joined: 15 August 2013 From: Portugal, Lisbon Member No.: 10072 |
What is wrong with all of you?... He simple just made a statement without reading the post, no point going all savage and offensive... Wth happened to this forum
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