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post 20 Jun 2009, 9:33
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QUOTE (Zhao @ 20 Jun 2009, 15:03) *
How do you balance AA units arty and Tesla , oh yeah , you cant =/
Sorry? Whyever not? AA units and artillery have been balanced since vanilla Generals, and Tesla is simply a particular type of tank or static defence which trades effectiveness against light targets and infantry for armour or power consumption and cost respectively - hence, balanced).
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these models need a make over ^^
Are you saying that every AA, artillery, and Tesla unit in the game needs a remodel? Really?


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post 20 Jun 2009, 10:05
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^ I think he's referring to the old ECA models back in the first post, JB. wink.gif
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post 20 Jun 2009, 11:14
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Oh, I see. The hats confused me into thinking it referred to the line above and not the OP. Apologies.


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post 20 Jun 2009, 12:11
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QUOTE (DerKrieger @ 19 Jun 2009, 21:51) *
Yeah (those space-capable EF-2000s would have been the coolest thing ever), there was going to be a French "Space General" as well as a British "Special Forces General," a German "Siege General," and a "Neutron General."

The info is from [url=http://www.cnc-inside.de/inhalt-page,Mod-Interviews--Rise-of-Europe-Interview,2,2033.html]here{/url]. It's in German so if you don't speak it you may be able to translate it via online translator. Also included is a discussion of the original General Powers for the ECA.

Rank 1: Manticore Unlock, Pandur Veteran training, Spy Sattelite

Rank 3: Rocket Strike (6 rockets fired from command center- leave mines behind after detonation), Drop Gun (3 levels- probably very similar to Super Weapon General's air-dropped turrets. Level 1 got you one MG turret, level 2 gives you two MG turrets and level 3 gives you four MG turrets.), Smart Bomb (3 levels of power- increasingly more powerful- level 3 apparently has a small nuclear warhead), Emergency Repair (same as for all factions)

Rank 5: Neutron Bomb (kills infantry and vehicle pilots), APS (Anti-Projectile Shield; an energy shield is deployed around friendly units in the designated area), Ariane 5 (launches an Ariane rocket that reveals the entire map for a brief period of time).

Of course, all of this is subject to change I8.gif



Thanks for the answer, very interesting.
I wonder if those space eurofighters would work like the GDI firehawks with stratofighter(?) upgrade.
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post 20 Jun 2009, 14:22
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I think probably just acted like the Nuke Missile for China, went up and came down at a different location... but were planes, not a weapon


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post 20 Jun 2009, 18:15
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For your interest, the idea that they behaved like stratofighters is right. I asked some people (like Crusader) some years ago. Sir-Maddoc was also really enthusiastic about Space Eurofighters, but as we all know, we will likely not see them (because of the known facts etc...). Let us just see how the ROTR ECA comes out.
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post 20 Jun 2009, 18:55
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I'm still looking forward to the Manticore tongue.gif


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post 20 Jun 2009, 19:31
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I don't realy get why you love that thing so much it's a basicly a butchered mammoth tank and the old model they used back then is quite low quality aswell, hell even the barrels are lacking a texture all togeteher.


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post 20 Jun 2009, 19:41
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I don't know, there is just something about it that makes it more awesome that other mammoths...


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post 20 Jun 2009, 19:43
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well the one model you see in those renders is certainly not even Maddoc thinks it's outdated by now tongue.gif


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post 20 Jun 2009, 21:10
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Just wait until you see the new Manticore.
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post 20 Jun 2009, 21:12
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yeah even the last beta of RoE had a better model than the one in the render ... but yeah wait till you see the new one :-D
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post 20 Jun 2009, 21:19
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QUOTE (Sir-Maddoc @ 20 Jun 2009, 18:12) *
yeah even the last beta of RoE had a better model than the one in the render ... but yeah wait till you see the new one :-D

After you said that this is what is happening to me now 8ani5.gif
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post 21 Jun 2009, 1:29
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I can't wait biggrin.gif


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post 21 Jun 2009, 1:47
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ECA sure has a lot of big vehicles with the Manticore, Claymore and Jagdmammut ohmy.gif


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post 21 Jun 2009, 16:17
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Who cares?!?!? ECA is going to be (probably) the most powerful faction. If nothing else they may be the solution to the overpowered russians. And I can't wait to see the new manticore UI8.gif

EDIT: A lot of the original RoE models really aren't very good/original. As stated above the manticore is a really bad mammoth tank that isn't even fully textured. And the european B-52? Come on.

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QUOTE (Suvorov @ 21 Jun 2009, 14:17) *
Who cares?!?!? ECA is going to be (probably) the most powerful faction. If nothing else they may be the solution to the overpowered russians. And I can't wait to see the new manticore UI8.gif

Near the end none of the factions should be the most powerful. Not ECA, nor Russia.


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post 22 Jun 2009, 0:45
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Yeah or you can say bye-bye to a decent and fair game.


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post 22 Jun 2009, 5:06
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The space eurofighter is an interesting idea with a "space general" lol

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post 23 Jun 2009, 3:36
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QUOTE (KamuiK @ 20 Jun 2009, 10:15) *
For your interest, the idea that they behaved like stratofighters is right. I asked some people (like Crusader) some years ago. Sir-Maddoc was also really enthusiastic about Space Eurofighters, but as we all know, we will likely not see them (because of the known facts etc...). Let us just see how the ROTR ECA comes out.


I wonder...is there any more info about Rise of Europe that isn't available on Cnc-inside.de? I remember there used to be a forum on ThunderMods but when it went down so too did the mod project. Come to think of it, I wouldn't be surprised to find something similar to the Space Eurofighter in ROTR...remember how they said that the Aurora bomber was going to be back, but with major changes?


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post 23 Jun 2009, 3:44
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So you think the Aurora might jump into space but have to fly back like a normal plane?


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post 23 Jun 2009, 3:55
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scrap the aurora and make the A-10 a buildable plane mindfuck.gif
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post 23 Jun 2009, 11:04
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Id like to see the A400 airbus come back yes i known european airfield where bombed but the GLA have a plane and where the hell would they hide that if they are a sort of terrorist organization. so i dont see why the airbus cant come back apart from the team not wanting it.

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post 23 Jun 2009, 11:35
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I'd have to say that it's worthwhile mulling over the fact that fighter bases would, purely hypothetically, be the primary targets of any potential Russian air raid.
...but as for RotR, who knows?


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post 23 Jun 2009, 15:44
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That hypothesis doesn't really match the Russian gameplay.

Russia don't seem at all geared toward air dominance and their planes fail in comparison to the USA/China
(Fighter is weak and bomber is so slow it gets taken out)


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