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Dr. Thrax VS. General "Demo" Juhziz
Is the demo general too hard?
Is it just hard?
Yes, even on easy [ 14 ] ** [48.28%]
Yes [ 4 ] ** [13.79%]
No [ 4 ] ** [13.79%]
I can beat him on HARD [ 7 ] ** [24.14%]
What don't you like about this map?
Many demo traps [ 5 ] ** [8.33%]
Bugged SCUD storm [ 17 ] ** [28.33%]
Topol-2 SCUD launchers [ 10 ] ** [16.67%]
Too much terrorists and bike terrorists [ 12 ] ** [20.00%]
2 bases [ 2 ] ** [3.33%]
Angry mob rush [ 1 ] ** [1.67%]
Tank rush [ 2 ] ** [3.33%]
Rocket buggys [ 5 ] ** [8.33%]
Too much defenses [ 2 ] ** [3.33%]
His cheap sayings [ 4 ] ** [6.67%]
Jarman Kell and his saboteurs [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
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post 23 Oct 2009, 18:05
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More useful then you think it is

edit: is there a way to upload a GC replay?

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post 23 Oct 2009, 18:08
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Use a recorder program and post it on youtube, else not to my knowledge.
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post 23 Oct 2009, 18:09
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Fraps any good?

people say it is but i always get poor quality

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post 23 Oct 2009, 22:52
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Quality doesn't matter as long as we see the gameplay.


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post 24 Oct 2009, 2:18
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I cant compress it enouf Im getting like 20 GB for the entire game
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post 24 Oct 2009, 2:27
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That is obviously too much. Sure you wrote the right letter? Anyway, ask Massey or Mike about that matter, they should know what to do.
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post 24 Oct 2009, 2:29
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QUOTE (Shock @ 23 Oct 2009, 7:46) *
USA is not really 'tricky' as they have very good aircraft.

Aircraft > anything Juhziz throws at you.


Yes, but till you can build an airfield he will overwhelm you. So you need something to stop him before that.


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post 24 Oct 2009, 2:34
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Not true at all, commanche spam Pwns all.

Because its OP XD.gif

Your also base everything on your prospective as i am mine /and all the other betatesters

Your probably not good with AFG are you?

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post 24 Oct 2009, 2:41
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Жao, I say it again, we are talking about the Generals Challenge here, not some AI skirmish. You have to defend, build up AND attack at the same time while your enemy has a full base (1 and a half actually). I have no idea where you get your money from anyway before Juhziz blows you up, really.

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post 24 Oct 2009, 2:44
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Yes but im not talking about some Skirmish AI eaither

Commanche spam does really own alot as the commanches have a Extremely decent amount of Armor , just put two afg defenses up on both flanks one ranger in the pillbox Chillax build up a eco and win , infact he has stealth fighters that down his defenses and Sneak attacks rather quickly

COUNTER MEASURES ARE WIN

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post 24 Oct 2009, 3:35
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QUOTE (Жao @ 23 Oct 2009, 23:18) *
I cant compress it enouf Im getting like 20 GB for the entire game

QUOTE (KamuiK @ 23 Oct 2009, 23:27) *
That is obviously too much. Sure you wrote the right letter? Anyway, ask Massey or Mike about that matter, they should know what to do.


You know me too well KamuiK tongue.gif

Did you set the recording size to "Full Screen" - it'd be better as "Half Screen"

Failing that, just chuck it into a movie editing program and save. Should cut the size down.


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post 24 Oct 2009, 4:22
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QUOTE (Жao @ 24 Oct 2009, 6:44) *
Yes but im not talking about some Skirmish AI eaither

Commanche spam does really own alot as the commanches have a Extremely decent amount of Armor , just put two afg defenses up on both flanks one ranger in the pillbox Chillax build up a eco and win , infact he has stealth fighters that down his defenses and Sneak attacks rather quickly

COUNTER MEASURES ARE WIN

Read the topic name...again. You are the Poison-everyone-you-meet General, not a retired pilot.



...on the other hand, it seems unlikely that a Thrax Stinger Site can blow up a demobike before it kamikazes into it...


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post 24 Oct 2009, 4:55
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It cannot, considering the fact those come in pairs or triplets, and since they have a decent AoD, terror bikes speak for themselves.
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post 24 Oct 2009, 5:00
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Toxin? lots and lots of Tunnels + Rocket buggies + Scoruges + AA (Stinger site clearing) pythons + jarmen kell and rader van and alot of expansion with lots and lots of micro.

besides Units can take care of demo bikes

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post 24 Oct 2009, 18:52
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I played against Demo with Thrax on "Hard" for the first time ever, and won by making 5 SCUD storms and using sneak attacks. My defenses were more than enough for his forces, IMO it is fair to say he's very much beatable on "Hard".

The scud storms were necessary because I figured his stinger sites would just shoot down scourge missiles.

Just kill his SCUD Storm with 2 of your own, then sneak attack and destroy him from the inside out. Don't bother trying to make your way through the front (though it's possible to win like that, it'll take x2 as long). Survive early on by garrisoning 2 RPGs at the top left bunker, put a toxrebel in the MG bunker, and get a 3chev fully scrapped technical to deal with enemies. At the bottom, just make 2 tunnels and forget about it. Then get a few scorps, at the same time tech and make black markets and a few more defenses. I didn't start building my first SCUDSTORM until he already hit me with his, which actually didn't do much because there were no toxins to delay me from rebuilding lol. He hit me twice or 3 times (forgot) before I killed his SW. Spam black markets for money, then win.

Take 1 level of rebel ambush and use it when necessary against his artillery units, often he'll try to go under the cliff with TOPOLs, which is a perfect place for the rebel ambush, since there are buildings to garrison too smile.gif

I spent my points on 3Cash Bounty, Anthrax Bomb, Sneak Attack, 1Rebel Ambush, Scrap Drop.

The demo traps helped me at some points lol, 1 tech was able to kill 2-3 tanks just by setting off a demo trap which set off 2 others smile.gif IDK about the lower difficulties, but "Hard" is perfect IMO, perhaps the lower difficulties could have their difficulties lowered.

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post 24 Oct 2009, 19:00
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use rebel ambush to capture his cc and scud storm, sell, wait for scuds. him to rebuild, do again. Gives nice cash. Hes very much beatable without building scuds. Fun fact you can even beat Alexander without making a SW (its a shitload of work and requires you to capture her particle cannon and a powerplant from her back base. took me 3 hours lmoa.


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post 24 Oct 2009, 21:08
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Sharp, what about those money crates and those two booby trapped derricks at the bottom?


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post 24 Oct 2009, 21:39
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QUOTE (Destiny @ 24 Oct 2009, 13:08) *
Sharp, what about those money crates and those two booby trapped derricks at the bottom?


ah, forgot to mention, i actually used 5 rebels trying to capture them lol. first two died to demo traps, second two died to the booby trap, lost a 5th to a unit he sent.

looking back, i could have taken them with 2 rebels if i brought stealth detection. i didnt bother with money crates, and i didnt bother defending the derricks either but i DID capture the derricks for the $1k i get, plus i got some more $$$ before they were destroyed.

actually, i made a lot of mistakes because it was my first time but yea, it's possible to beat it on the first try, though it is pretty hard on the first try. im pretty sure i could beat it a lot more easily if i went through it again.

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post 25 Oct 2009, 4:24
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QUOTE (Sharpnessism @ 24 Oct 2009, 15:52) *
[...] He hit me twice or 3 times (forgot) before I killed his SW. [...]


So that means your game took over 1hr 35mins? ohmy.gif


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post 25 Oct 2009, 4:59
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This thread is very big now. You guys have a lot of tips. Thank you. Hopefully this thread won't be left to rot. Thank you for the tips and keep the tips flowing. Perhaps I should make this a all around forum for all generals vs Juhziz. Please move this out of here and put it in the main battle bunker forum. mani8.gifmani8.gifmani8.gifmani8.gif

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post 25 Oct 2009, 5:51
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NO General camo *Uses a movie like dramatic voice* dont make another STUPID THREAD!

Naw JK your fine.
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post 25 Oct 2009, 8:33
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QUOTE (Pickysaurus @ 24 Oct 2009, 20:24) *
So that means your game took over 1hr 35mins? ohmy.gif


no? his SW came out fairly fast and hitting me 2-3 times is around 10-15 minutes

after i took out his SW, he lost pretty fast since i killed his base from the inside out, his other base i just SW'd to death
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They really have to fix that bug.
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post 25 Oct 2009, 10:16
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QUOTE (Generalcamo @ 25 Oct 2009, 0:48) *
They really have to fix that bug.

how is that a bug...
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post 25 Oct 2009, 13:47
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It is a bug since the first time the SCUDy is build, it starts with 5 minutes. Btw, I played vs Kassad yesterday and wil go on today, after I reached Juhziz and beat him, I will post a strategy of mine.
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