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post 3 Dec 2010, 10:25
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post 3 Dec 2010, 11:13
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I love that bit where he compares the worm to having an F-35 jet on a World War I battlefield. Like, what is that one F-35 gonna do? Drop a few precision bombs over the Verdun-sector which has been turned into a complete wasteland by months of ceaseless artillery bombardement to
begin with, shoot down the Red Baron and then resort to being the most spectacular, yet impractical recon plane of the entire war because the time travellers forgot to bring in more than one loadout of bombs, additional jet fuel and all that modern network-centric warfare mumbo-jumbo?
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post 8 Dec 2010, 13:17
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Just a while ago I've read Japanese and Americans interrupted their common Naval drill in the Japanese Sea, saying Russian planes (consisting of Il-38 and anti-submarine airforce) invaded their air space.

There are two things I wonder:
1. does it mean Japanese are preparing the Korean War breaks anew? Didn't they mean S. Koreans instead?
2. so what? It's not like Japan or the USA can do anything about it except verbal protests. It's the right of Russia (and China) to see when their neighbours start the war.

It's obvious Russia doesn't like American military exercises near their border, because one of such drills preceded Georgian invasion to South Osetia and Abkhazia...


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post 9 Dec 2010, 3:35
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I applaud Russia's response. I'd be very pissed off if I saw foreign fleets near my waters.



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post 25 Dec 2010, 18:41
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Rumored Chengdu J-20, China's 5G fighter project sneak peek during a runway test:



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post 27 Dec 2010, 14:09
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Some J-14/20 fanarts:



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post 27 Dec 2010, 14:20
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The authenticity of these pics is still questionable to me. However, if true, I can't wait to see some official pics, photos and specs.


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post 27 Dec 2010, 14:43
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QUOTE (Raven @ 27 Dec 2010, 22:20) *
The authenticity of these pics is still questionable to me. However, if true, I can't wait to see some official pics, photos and specs.

...Do your own research. The photos were taken by Chinese onlookers with small/mobile phone camera, obviously the security does not tolerate the presence of big cameras near the airstrip where they are testing China's nascent 5th-gen fighter aircraft.

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defen...mentId=blogDest

Also a clearer picture:


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post 27 Dec 2010, 17:28
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I did a quick check on the mp .net forums and did not bother to look any further. Looks awfully lot like a stretched F-22. If the leak is authentic, then we might see an announcement from the Chinese. What makes me doubtful is why would they test this in an airfield close to civilians?


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post 27 Dec 2010, 17:36
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The existence of the project has been predicted for a while so it's not like it was something top-secret. From the rumours I read, the authorities are cool on letting the onlookers watch on but they do ban cameras.


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post 28 Dec 2010, 8:26
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It does bear more than a passing resemblance to the F-22. Whatever happened to the days when jet planes from different countries used to look distinct? It'd be interesting to see
if China and Russia end up exporting their pseudo-Raptors, considering how the US government effectively outlawed selling the original to ANY organisation except for the USAF.
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post 28 Dec 2010, 10:31
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The reason IMO is that, once the soviet union fell. there weren't any development in this sector from the Russians and the Chinese were always behind the Russians. When Russia wanted to create a new 5th Gen Fighter, it would have taken them a long time and possibly made it obsolete by the time they put it into service if they built something new from scratch. So they got somethings from the Raptor. But the PAK-FA is pretty different from the F-22 IMO. As for this one..it looks a very much like the Raptor.

China and Russia would export these models, but with lesser capabilities to other countries. Up until now, the Raptors were the only fighters with stealth capability and any of the US allies did not need a stealth fighter since they did not have any potentially hostile countries that required a raptor to handle. At best they had the Su-27s and Mig-29s. If these new fighters are sold overseas, I think the US would also start selling them to other AFs. They are already selling the JSF. UK would be one of the first buyers for the F-22 if they ever sell it IMO. Australia, SK and perhaps Japan might also be interested, and of course Israel.


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post 28 Dec 2010, 10:37
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Don't be surprised if American allies and partners are pressured to buy the JSF.

I don't think diversification in aesthetics matter when designing a critical piece of military technology. The similarity isn't even as close as you suggested; the J-XX has a canard, it uses a V-shaped pelikan tail similar to those on an F-117, the chassis is longer than that of the F-22, and the shape of the wings are different as well.

They tried to design (by hook or by crook) the fighter to their specs, at the end IMO it matters more to them, how it performs than how it looks. They are 20 years behind the US in designing and fielding a 5th-gen fighter so whatever they can do to reduce that time gap is only good for them, don't you think?


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post 29 Dec 2010, 11:56
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post 29 Dec 2010, 13:03
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Cheers for the clear images. So it's not that much of an obvious Raptor copy after all.
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post 29 Dec 2010, 14:26
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QUOTE (Waris @ 28 Dec 2010, 9:37) *
Don't be surprised if American allies and partners are pressured to buy the JSF.

I don't think diversification in aesthetics matter when designing a critical piece of military technology. The similarity isn't even as close as you suggested; the J-XX has a canard, it uses a V-shaped pelikan tail similar to those on an F-117, the chassis is longer than that of the F-22, and the shape of the wings are different as well.

They tried to design (by hook or by crook) the fighter to their specs, at the end IMO it matters more to them, how it performs than how it looks. They are 20 years behind the US in designing and fielding a 5th-gen fighter so whatever they can do to reduce that time gap is only good for them, don't you think?


It will probably come out before the F-35 ever comes into service tongue.gif.
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post 29 Dec 2010, 16:09
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QUOTE (MARS @ 29 Dec 2010, 13:03) *
Cheers for the clear images. So it's not that much of an obvious Raptor copy after all.


From the looks of it it seems that its got most in common with the MiG I.44, looks like EA got it right this time tongue.gif ,
anyways congratulations to the China on developing 5th gen. fighter.
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post 29 Dec 2010, 16:54
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Can't wait to see it making appearances in mods tongue.gif


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post 29 Dec 2010, 17:53
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lol...we gotta say this looks the best compared to f-22 and T-50 smile.gif.


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post 30 Dec 2010, 10:22
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Diversity is always nice.

Its like the Raptor and the Berkut combined their awesome powers and became Captain Planet.


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Still I think PakFa (if finished) might be better in manouverability, ROF and number of targets fired on simultaneusly, maybe even stealth (shape isn't everything) tongue.gif

It also depends on materials used in this jet and it's "intestines"...

...and is it just me or J22 looks rather fragile, compared to other 5th gen. Stealth-jets ?

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post 31 Dec 2010, 3:50
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Apparently the focus of J-20 is to have longer endurance times with a larger payload. It seems to have a better focus on ground attacks as well. I think it's not built for dog fights, but more for long range interception and stealthy first strikes.

Well we'll have to wait some more to learn all the details. Anyone know of the PAK-FA's progress?


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It flies! http://video.sina.com.cn/v/b/44929492-1622...1.html#44667541


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