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 3 May 2012, 14:08
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  Group: Members Posts: 846 Joined: 7 June 2009 From: England UK Member No.: 80 Forum Mechanic  |
Just a quick question I'm currently unsure about....What helicopters are the Russian faction going to receive? I know the havoc and hind are being included but in the commentary Hunter and Comr4de did a while ago there was discussion about the blackshark hokum and crocodile and I'm unsure as to what is happening ATM so if someone could shed some light it would be appreciated
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3 May 2012, 14:17
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 Group: Members Posts: 408 Joined: 22 December 2011 From: Philippines Member No.: 8902 |
QUOTE (Jester @ 3 May 2012, 22:08)  Just a quick question I'm currently unsure about....What helicopters are the Russian faction going to receive? I know the havoc and hind are being included but in the commentary Hunter and Comr4de did a while ago there was discussion about the blackshark hokum and crocodile and I'm unsure as to what is happening ATM so if someone could shed some light it would be appreciated i cant remember the name Comr4de make one already and its awesome i love it the first time i saw it there's a 3 upgrade for that chopper but hunter like to stay on transport chopper one of the general will have that one im sure you gonna love it too. thanks SWR_team^^ --------------------  |
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3 May 2012, 15:08
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 Group: Members Posts: 1080 Joined: 24 December 2011 Member No.: 8905 Loves guessing games |
If I remember correctly the Crocodile is another name (or rather the real Russian nickname) for the Hind. The Blackshark is probably gonna be exclusive to Orlov while the Havoc is gonna be the general Russian Heli, or vice versa.
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3 May 2012, 15:53
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Group: Members Posts: 846 Joined: 7 June 2009 From: England UK Member No.: 80 Forum Mechanic |
Sorry what I ment to say was the ka 52 alligator aswell as ka 50 hokum and blackshark.
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3 May 2012, 16:12
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  Group: Dev. Team Posts: 1220 Joined: 8 June 2009 From: East Coast of either China or the US Member No.: 96 Projects: SWR Productions |
Current plans are the Hind and Blackshark go to Orlov and the other two gets the Havoc. The Werewolf, a variant of the KA-50 Blackshark, is canned. It was the same model anyways. I don't know about the KA-52 Aliigator, but there isn't a model for it, and it isn't in our plans.
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3 May 2012, 18:47
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 Losing Karma to Vault Boy  Group: Tester Posts: 1302 Joined: 7 June 2009 From: Canada/S.Korea Member No.: 34 Some future plan mod for AoE3:Asian Dynasty or FO4 |
Currently they have only 5 Russian helicopters in beta progress.
Mi-28 Havoc(Possible V2.0 for General Aleksandr) Mi-24 Hind(For General Orlov, IIRC) Mi-26 Halo(General Power only) KA 50 WereWolf and Black Shark --------------------  Let's kick this Russian Tank's ass back to the Bronze Age! Twitch Chart ID: Mr_kim82 Moddb ID: Mr_Kim |
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3 May 2012, 18:57
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  Group: Administrator Posts: 5732 Joined: 31 May 2009 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 1 Projects: SWR Productions Bitch slapping SAGE since 2003 |
don't worry there will be plenty of more to go around with in 2.0
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3 May 2012, 18:58
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Group: Members Posts: 1080 Joined: 24 December 2011 Member No.: 8905 Loves guessing games |
QUOTE (MR.Kim @ 3 May 2012, 23:47) Currently they have only 5 Russian helicopters in beta progress. Mi-28 Havoc(Possible V2.0 for General Aleksandr) Mi-24 Hind(For General Orlov, IIRC) Mi-26 Halo(General Power only) KA 50 WereWolf and Black Shark Um... read the post above yours. And it's probably safe to say Aleksander won't get an unique heli, he already has a lot of goodies. |
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3 May 2012, 19:03
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Group: Members Posts: 846 Joined: 7 June 2009 From: England UK Member No.: 80 Forum Mechanic |
QUOTE (The_Hunter @ 3 May 2012, 18:57) don't worry there will be plenty of more to go around with in 2.0 Cool sounds awesome just so you know I'm not demanding you add these units I was just curious to know what the current plans are for said helicopters.
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3 May 2012, 19:15
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Losing Karma to Vault Boy Group: Tester Posts: 1302 Joined: 7 June 2009 From: Canada/S.Korea Member No.: 34 Some future plan mod for AoE3:Asian Dynasty or FO4 |
QUOTE (SpiralSpectre @ 3 May 2012, 13:58) Um... read the post above yours. And it's probably safe to say Aleksander won't get an unique heli, he already has a lot of goodies. I just got read this from Moddb and update Archive. http://www.moddb.com/mods/rise-of-the-reds...-havoc#imagebox http://forums.swr-productions.com/index.php?showtopic=184 This post has been edited by MR.Kim: 3 May 2012, 19:21 -------------------- Let's kick this Russian Tank's ass back to the Bronze Age! Twitch Chart ID: Mr_kim82 Moddb ID: Mr_Kim |
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3 May 2012, 19:24
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Group: Members Posts: 1080 Joined: 24 December 2011 Member No.: 8905 Loves guessing games |
QUOTE (MR.Kim @ 4 May 2012, 0:15) I just got read this from Moddb. http://www.moddb.com/mods/rise-of-the-reds...-havoc#imagebox Oh that, a lot of plans have obviously changed from then. That info on Havoc is probably from the time they were planning to make the ECA defenses capable of gaining experience and stuff. I wouldn't know, wasn't around back then. Anyway like it's said in Nergized's post, right now Blackshark goes to Orlov and the other two gets the Havoc. edit - You added a link to the update archive? But the archives still also has the Werewolf listed, which has been canned according to the same post. :/ This post has been edited by SpiralSpectre: 3 May 2012, 19:27 |
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3 May 2012, 21:14
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  Group: Project Leader Posts: 5870 Joined: 2 June 2009 Member No.: 10 |
Hind = Mi-24 = Crocodile = already in the mod, will later be exclusive to Orlov
Hokum = Ka-50 = already in the mod, will later be exclusive to Orlov Havoc = Mi-28 = not yet in the mod for redundancy reasons, will later become the standard Russian attack chopper for Aleksandr and Zhukov. The render that has been posted a good while ago is also outdated and has been re-made by now. And then there's going to be something entirely different. EDIT: Fixed the error with the Havoc |
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5 May 2012, 5:00
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Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: 21 October 2009 From: Between Europe and Asia. Member No.: 500 |
I usually prefer Mi-24 over KA-50/52. Although they're not agile as Kamovs, they have better firepower and speed and AA capability. KA-50/52 is just too slow and too specialized on tanks.
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5 May 2012, 8:56
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 Gamer Girl  Group: Legend Posts: 3808 Joined: 19 June 2009 From: Disboard Member No.: 182 Friendly Freelancer |
Is it already known what Zhukov will get as standard chopper?
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5 May 2012, 9:07
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Group: Dev. Team Posts: 1220 Joined: 8 June 2009 From: East Coast of either China or the US Member No.: 96 Projects: SWR Productions |
QUOTE (SorataZ @ 5 May 2012, 3:56) Is it already known what Zhukov will get as standard chopper? Everyone besides Orlov gets the Havoc. -------------------- |
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5 May 2012, 18:34
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Gamer Girl Group: Legend Posts: 3808 Joined: 19 June 2009 From: Disboard Member No.: 182 Friendly Freelancer |
Mistake's been fixed then.
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5 May 2012, 19:13
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Group: Project Leader Posts: 5870 Joined: 2 June 2009 Member No.: 10 |
Shite! That's indeed an error. It was supposed to say Aleksandr and Zhukov. My bad. Kudos to you for pointing it out.
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5 May 2012, 20:32
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Why everyone thinks that ROTRs Hind is Mi-24,
what if it is Mi-25 or Mi-35 ? Or some newer imaginary version ? Think about it 
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6 May 2012, 4:51
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Group: Project Leader Posts: 5870 Joined: 2 June 2009 Member No.: 10 |
Well, for one, the Mi-24 variants are still the most common and the Mi-25/35 seem to be export versions which Russia itself wouldn't use. And the in-game helicopter quite obviously isn't one of those westernised Mi-24 SuperHinds either.
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6 May 2012, 16:08
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Group: Members Posts: 1863 Joined: 17 April 2012 Member No.: 9081 |
In case of such big conflict like in ROTR I believe that they would use
everything on their disposal,like in case of one General power where cargo plane drops you few old empty Soviet era vehicles. |
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6 May 2012, 17:20
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Group: Project Leader Posts: 5870 Joined: 2 June 2009 Member No.: 10 |
That's not the point. In some cases of export versions, the different designation is actually just that: A different designation even though the tech is entirely
identical and why would they use an export designation for a chopper that isn't even meant to be exported to anyone because, I don't know, World War III? |
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6 May 2012, 18:00
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 Group: Project Leader Posts: 892 Joined: 8 June 2009 From: Cynopolies Member No.: 97 |
I know suggestions are not accepted, but i cannot help doing this. I always had something for the hind, but the super hind versions are really awsome. And since this game has a future timeline any chance the hind gets a improved design ... closer to this:
http://takeonthegame.com/full/wp-content/u..._SuperHind1.jpg This post has been edited by The_Hunter: 6 May 2012, 18:27 |
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6 May 2012, 18:04
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Group: Members Posts: 1863 Joined: 17 April 2012 Member No.: 9081 |
And why would Russia not do some modernisation to existing Hinds ?
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6 May 2012, 19:07
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Group: Members Posts: 1080 Joined: 24 December 2011 Member No.: 8905 Loves guessing games |
QUOTE (simeon5541 @ 6 May 2012, 23:04) And why would Russia not do some modernisation to existing Hinds ? There is always a chance that lorewise they indeed modernised the Hinds but the improvements just ain't so graphic. Like lorewise over 95% of the parts of the Gatling Tank have been modernised to some degree. But not many would say that after looking at it. http://www.moddb.com/mods/rise-of-the-reds...g-tank#imagebox |
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6 May 2012, 22:17
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Group: Members Posts: 1863 Joined: 17 April 2012 Member No.: 9081 |
Anyway it is just called Hind in game,
so that lefts much space for imagination, so it is not really important which version it is. |
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