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After much work I can finally present you all this fanfiction (semi-canon/alternate reality) that introduces the SAP within the ROTR; consists of a detailed timeline of the fictional faction, so it is only an introduction to new fanfiction.

I must also informed that I and The General are working together (The General is involved with the Balkan Confederation), then we intend to expand the fictitious ROTR's horizons, introducing two new factions that are in sync with each other and with others in the universe the ROTR.

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South American Pact



Leader: Prime Minister Miguel Garcia
Capital: Nova Brasilia
Population: 421,749,566
Active Troops: 4.322.500 (joint troops of Bolivarian Guard and South American Army)



===== PRE-SAP PERIOD =====



2010-2025. Brazil and the Bolivarian countries of ALBA after a true 'social revolution' change their right-wing secular policies for a new socialist left-wing approach.

Mechanisms such as UNASUR have been improved allowing greater integralism among the 'politically social/socialist' countries of South America, Central America, Europe and Asia; the exchange of experiences and ideas promoted an evolution that became known as 'socialism of the 21st century', actively practiced in different degrees throughout South America.

Argentina bitterly a crisis with the economy in recession; in Uruguay the situation is not different - albeit on a smaller scale. The two southernmost countries see in Brazil - a progressive country - the opportunity to return to being competitive markets in the scene of South America and in the world as a whole.

Mercosur proved to be fragile economic partie and failed in the mission to unite the South America's economies. Brazil is going to work on a new project of integration, much more comprehensive than the previous, which includes the Caribbean Zone - especially Cuba - and the blood brothers of the African Union - especially South Africa.

2027. Argentina and Uruguay show signs of economic recovery after paying their debts to the IMF and other creditors of North America, Europe and Asia.
Cuba, which had much of its infrastructure rebuilt and modernized by Brazil registers an historic increase of 3.5% of its GDP and a record flow of imports and exports with South America - its main economic allies.

2028. Brazil builds its first modern trimaran-type aircraft carrier, Admiral Barroso, with 100% national technology, ensuring its strategic interests in the South Atlantic; Argentina declares interest in building an aircraft carrier as well, taking advantage of the experience and shipyards in Brazil.

2029. The Brazilian capital, Brasilia, becomes a megalopolis with 5 million inhabitants; the city continues to grow in a way fully planned, with great public services, in tribute to the progress of Brasilia the capital of Brazil is renamed 'Nova Brasilia' - in reflection of the 'new Brazil' of the future.



2030. In Fortaleza, Brazil, is signed the 'Pan-American Trade Pact' which creates a free trade zone between Brazil, ALBA and the Caribbean countries.

The Brazil reaches historic record of oil and natural gas producing 9 million barrels per month - enough to make Brazil self-sufficient of oil and gas.

The 'Triumvirate of South America' - which constitutes the major economies of the continent - consists of Brazil, Argentina and Chile; the term became popular worldwide as reference of economically active nations.

2031. The North American military contingents leave Paraguay and Colombia as part of the new international 'post-GWOT' politics.

Bolivarian Guard Creation

The member countries of ALBA constitute the first joint army of South America, 'Bolivarian Guard' - 1,200,000 men and 3,000,000 reservists - to act in the defense of Bolivarian nations against 'imperialist enemies'; the Guard is led by Venezuelan General Pablo Mendoza Castro, and is characterized by being a nationalist army, often composed of peasant volunteers and young students aligned with libertarian ideologies. Among the vehicles is common used tanks of the Cold War, especially the Soviets, and these vehicles have been adapted over the years to continue being operational; is basically an army that merges light and heavy vehicles, and weapons considered obsolete. However through technological partnerships with Brazil, Argentina, Chile and Uruguay these vehicles are modernized, so allow them to continue being competitive against newer vehicles.

The popular Hero of GB is known by the nickname 'El Renegade'; according to legend was a former guerrilla who fought the 'oppressor state' and 'the foreign imperialists' in Latin soil before the 'Bolivarian Revolution' in 2025 after the revolution joined the 'popular army' and later the Bolivarian Guard.
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2032. With the success of the new agreement flourishes on South America a prosperous new horizon. Following this trend coupled with a good social administration in Brazil surge the high speed rail 'Rio-Sampa' linking the metropolises of Sao Paulo to Rio de Janeiro and the new international bridge between Brazil and Paraguay; the new bridge significantly expanded regional trade, and along with this improvement came a more rigid system of customs control in order to combat the smuggling of goods.
The useful life period of the Itaipu hydroelectric power plant ending and with the growth of energy consumption, Brazil, Paraguay, Bolivia and Venezuela have signed agreements with Russia Federation to build modern nuclear reactors in South American soil.

The Brazil, Argentina and Paraguay make first joint military exercises in history totaling approximately 7,000 military; these were the largest military exercises in Latin America and marks a new stage in the relationship between the three countries.

Cuba announces political reforms and greater economic/cultural openness with Latin America; Among the proposed changes is the increased access to freedom of expression and the end of the communist dictatorship regime.

2033.

Task Force Yemanja

The virtual NATO end made impossible international anti-piracy/terrorist operations in the Horn of Africa and retraction of USA Navy back to home different groups of pirates/terrorists - including the GLA - returned to act in the Indian Ocean threatening the intercontinental trade in goods; concerned about the situation the newly formed East African Confederation requested Brazilian military support for patrol and escort on the waters of the Arabian Sea and Gulf of Aden - previously protected by the Americans and the Chinese on 'GWOT'; The Brazil agreed to help the EAC to combat piracy/terrorism and formed the 'Task Force Yemanja' with the navies of Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, Venezuela, Guyana, Suriname, Peru and Ecuador, plus the South Africa's navy - totaling 105 ships.

For five years - 2033-2038 - 'Yemanja' has achieved important victories against pirates/terrorists ensuring relative normality in the maritime traffic on the region. In this period the aircraft carrier Admiral Barroso engaged in fighting increasing prestige of the Brazilian Navy.

After the end of the Latin African operations to Brazil and Argentina remained in Madagascar a small military contingent which acted as consultants for the new EAC Navy; although the Latins have collaborated militarily with the Africans aimed not establish a protectorate in the region, as later did the Americans, Chinese, Russians and Europeans.

In Dodoma, Tanzania, was made a monument to 'Task Force Yemanja'; the monument has cultural elements of Latin America and Africa and symbolizes the sincere friendship between the brotherly peoples of both continents.


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With the creation of the 'North American Union' between the United States, Canada and Mexico a partnership with FTAA countries of South America and Central America became something improbable. Traditional political/economic alliances between the USA to Guatemala, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay and Colombia deteriorated rapidly opening the doors to a south-central integration in America.

For nearly a decade Brazil surpasses the USA's capacity of the grain production investing in new cultivable areas and applying new techniques related to precision agriculture. In 2033 Brazil reaches record crop of 120 million tons. With the creation of the NAU the United States is once again the world's largest producer of grains, however the situation is again favorable to Brazil and the SAP from 2043 when Brazil establishes new partnerships with Serbia and the BC for a household agricultural production based on organic, in distinction to the model of large farms and transgenetics of the past century.

2034. The countries of South America begin to feel the first side effects of a narrower market between the countries of North America; the stock exchange in Brazil has a strong fall and large multinationals in Latin America decide for return to the United States where a number of favorable factors enable greater profits.

Forward the NAU creation and the expansion of economic giants around the globalized world the other countries of South America and the nations of Central America signalize with Brazil - the main actor of Latin America policies - the intention to join to the 'Pan-American Trade Pact'. The Brazil promises to study the plan and carry out consultations between the parties to extend the pact for something bigger and more competitive.

2035.

SAP Rise

On May 1 the Brazilian government finally announced the project of creating the 'South American Pact' - a political, economic, scientific and military alliance among all the nations of South America. The pact includes cooperation with the Caribbean and Central America. The countries of South America were favorable to the creation of the SAP; Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay and Chile referendums were scheduled for the population to decide on the future of their nation; as part of the agreement signed Nova Brasilia is defined as the capital of the SAP. The stock market responded positively to the South American initiative.

On August 07 - historic date that marks the Bolivarian independence of America - after completion of all referendums being favorable to the creation of SAP: Brazil 94.6%, Argentina 97.1%, Uruguay 74.3%, Chile 69.9%, the 'South American Pact' is officially established encompassing all countries of South America - the other countries of South America, with the exception of Guyana, not held referendums to join the SAP; decrees were sufficient for membership.

SAP works in a similar way to European ECA, however the 'High Council' responsible for main political decisions consists of 100 democratically elected presidents, representatives of major social/cultural movements in South America; while the sovereignty of each member nation is preserved and that there continues to be democratic elections in each country - the national presidents continue to rule his nation - in sync with the presidents of SAP that constitute the 'High Council'; which is generically a progressivist/socialist/communist confederation.
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The trimaran-type aircraft carrier General Belgrano is built in Brazil for the Argentine Navy; with the new Argentine aircraft carrier British make harsh criticisms against the Brazilian government for having built the powerful vessel that threatens the interests of the United Kingdom in the Falklands. Like the British, in 'solidarity', the government of USA prohibits any kind of military cooperation with Brazil and Argentina.

Contrasts with the good political/social moment the high crime rate in countries like Brazil, Paraguay, Argentina, Colombia and Venezuela - but not far from the rest of Latin America; even with stricter laws being adopted against crime - especially international drug trafficking - the crime remains a plague for the development of certain Latin regions. Expelled gangs in Brazil's South and Southeast migrated to the Northeast, acting under the orders of 'Fernandinho' Almeida Vargas, founder of Red Cartel - a criminal league that became a powerful narco-guerrilla.


===== SAP PERIOD =====



2036. The military embargo of the British and Americans through the NAU and the ECA extends to economic sanctions against SAP; sanctions aimed at harming the strategic sectors of the Latin block as agriculture, aerospace, oil exploration among others.

Bioful Polices

The SAP's Ministry of Energy Resources approves a revolutionary project for implementation of new technologies on a large scale in South America; the project drastically reduce the consumption of fossil fuels, for both was stipulated that 25% of the car fleet should be biofuel-powered and 15% of the energy sector of the SAP's member countries should also be based on biofuels until 2050 - Brazil holds since the last century advanced technologies in this area. With this new measure the dependence of the SAP towards fossil fuels will be much lower, preserving the environment and enhancing the regional economy; The project defines that the surplus of oil and gas of the SAP's countries members must be exported and annual revenue of approximately one trillion of dollars should be allocated to education and health. Scientists argue the idea claiming that biofuel-powered cars are better than electric cars of North America and Europe since the wireless energy that moves the car is carcinogenic for human life.


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2037. Amid the chaos of the sharp unemployment in South America thousands of workers are protesting in the streets of major cities on the continent to demand urgent action by the SAP's High Council in order to control the looming crisis - due to the severe sanctions imposed by NAU and ECA. In response SAP stipulates a period of one month to the North Americans and Europeans reconsider their sanctions; after the end of term sanctions persisted then foreign industries in South American soil were nationalized; to strengthen the economy of the block new state mining industries were created in Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, Colombia, Peru and Venezuela.
The NAU and the ECA feeling threatened by Latin Americans so began to freeze financial assets abroad; this new phase of 'economic war' put an definitive end to the 'good relations' between SAP, NAU and ECA.

Ten years after Brazil invest heavy in Cuban infrastructure, and five years after the 'political openness' with Latin America, the capital Havana boosted by 'economic boom' has become a new city more attractive and modern. The sugar cane, maize, sunflower and soybeans have become the main crops of the island; this new market works exclusively to meet the needs of South America related to biofuels.

The criminal organization Red Cartel articulates attacks in major Brazilian cities; among the targets of the attacks are the police forces, public buildings and transport system; thousands of people are harmed directly and indirectly by terrorist acts. The most serious attack is against the Secretary of Public Safety of the State of Maranhao - main stronghold of the cartel - who was murdered victim of a shot fired by a sniper.
Brazil's government finally recognizes the Red Cartel as a terrorist organization and maps the connections of the group with other narco-militias in Latin America; the work of intelligence results in a billionaire investment in the area of security against the 'Red Cartel'.

2038.

East Partner

With relations with the West cut the SAP's High Council turns to the East in search of new political/economic partnerships.

On 13 April is performed the 'Forum of Belgrade' in Serbia - a regional power on the rise - where many South Americans and Latino leaders, authorities of Serbia, Greece and Russia meet to discuss a relationship more ample involving their respective countries. After 'Forum of Belgrade' is agreed that both countries will cooperate to achieve common points such as education, social development, scientific development, sustainable environment, defense and science, among other points.

The Forum of Belgrade is considered a success by politicians and intellectuals and is the first step to a new age of success among the 'New West' and the 'New East'.
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It is decreed that the Latin American TV stations are nationalized by the states members of the SAP, some broadcasters are discontinued - mainly foreign or 'neoliberal journalistic slant' - and the others are merged into a single gigantic station, 'Latin News', which every day brings the latest information about SAP, besides exposing the maselas so critical of the consumerist/materialistic society of 21st century the 'Latin News' covers 75% of South America and 88% of Central America. The television station Bond News of Brazil was one of the only stations that continued to exist independently; with a programming designed for foreign public maintains a format of traditional journalism; some Brazilian oligarchies keeps the station that has some programs censored in South America.

As with other world powers the SAP signed the 'Budapest Accords' to ban on all types of neutron weapons.

Cuba and Venezuela purchase of Russia powerful anti-aircraft complexes S-300 Grumble. The Cuban government also buys a small batch of Su-47 Berkut fighters wich are divided into two squads to defend the country and the Caribbean Zone; Cuban pilots trained in Russia are known by NAU and Europe for their daring maneuvers across the Caribbean Sea, such maneuvers are considered military provocations.

The SAP's Ministry of Energy Resources funds advanced studies related photobioenergy aiming to develop new sources of renewable energy.

2039. The Argentine Ministry of Defence reveals what is at advanced stage secret 'Project Condor' to create in conjunction with an intercontinental ballistic Brazil missile capable of carrying multiple nuclear warheads; technically the missile has the potential to reach the southern portion of the United States. The Pentagon speculates that Russia helped design the 'Condor'; after these disclosures Europe condemns Brazil and Argentina for being 'stimulating a dangerous escalation in America'.

In French Guyana the ESA reveals that secretly built a reactor solaris - on the same base which operates the 'central nervous' of control the Solaris System - to produce cheap energy not only for Guyana, but also for 'all possible Latin partner'; such action is considered by the High Council of SAP as a lobby against biofuel - competitor of 'solaris'.
The Brazil accuses ECA of having reinforced its military presence in the French protectorate.

The SAP Ministry of Food Security determines that the transgenic crops in South America are reduced by up to 35% in order to reduce rates of genetic disorders among the Latin population; although such action would cause billionaire prejudice to the public coffers encourages 'social welfare' and is an opportunity to create a new economic model of agriculture in countries like Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay, Chile and especially to Peru, Colombia , Venezuela, Bolivia, Cuba and Haiti; Serbs - major producers of organic food - were the 'model' for Latinos.
Livestock also suffer changes and poultry meat and pork becomes more healthy, free of harmful chemicals, standardizing the Hispanic market with the European.

2040.

Operation Guarani Arrow

Immigrants after allegedly being persecuted in Europe, after the atrocities of GLA in the past decade against the Europeans found refuge and asylum in Brazil, Argentina and Paraguay; however the weak security of the SAP nations allowed terrorist cells operating in Europe came to South America, where for years 'slept', waiting for the right moment to once again give their 'fatal blow' against the globalized world.

A terrorist cell of 500 men under the command of a unknown GLA general planned catastrophic attacks on Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay and the USA; first sabotaged the disabled dam of Itaipu in Brazil; after the breaking of the dam flooded hundreds of kilometers of urban and cultivable areas in Brazil, Argentina and Paraguay; hundreds of thousands of people died in the flood causing incalculable losses for both countries.

The second attack began after five hours later and proved to be the most dangerous - the attack on the Itaipu was just a 'gimmick'; a group of heavily armed terrorists stormed the military base Brigadeiro Velloso, Para, Brazil, without facing considerable resistance by the Brazilian military, took control of the launch platform and the experimental ICBM 'Condor'. The goal of the GLA was not necessarily cause major damage to Brazil or South America, but repeat the 'feat of Baikonur' and appropriate to a nuclear vector to attack your greatest enemy, the United States of America; and the capital Washington was the target of terrorists. Once the General Marcos Alberto Campos became aware of the terrorist attacks against your nation mobilized the '3rd Parachute Infantry Brigade', based in Goias, to respond to aggression; paratroopers and other BEPEs suffered nearly a hundred casualties in three days of battle, but were victorious in the 'Operation Guarani Arrow' regaining the base occupied by GLA. Despite the victory the military facilities were completely destroyed, including the ICBM and the launch base of 'Project Condor'. This event marked the premature end of the Argentine/Brazilian project.

After the episode the General Alberto proposed greater integration between the military forces of South America in order to constitute an elite army for rapid responses and anti-terror throughout the South American continent; this was the first concept of what would later be the 'South American Pact Joint Army'.


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Venezuela replaces the outdated T-80 tanks by the new Kodiaks of Russia via a billionaire agreement.

The SAP's Ministry of Telecommunications adopted measures to the Latin News coverage in South American territory increasing from 75% to 93%. The mesh of optical fiber also increased as the number of people with internet access, in the last decade 28 million Latinos have gained access to the network.

2041. The Brazil finishes building its second trimaran-type aircraft carrier, Duke of Caxias, completing its strategic plan for naval defense.

The Belgrade Forum has continuity with the 'Pact of Buenos Aires' where the SAP's leaders meet with the leaders of Serbia, Grecia and the Russian Federation to determine new guidelines on mutual strategic alliance; is defined the creation of the Russian military base Bacabal - Maranhao, Brazil - and Puerto Bolivar, Ecuador.

With the Serbia and Grecia an agreement is signed in the mining area, where geologists shared relavantes knowledge with the Latins for the extraction of new rare minerals.

2042.

Hunting Vargas

On the occasion of the coming of Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov in the Brazilian coast with a group of Marines and Expeditionary VDVs the Brazilian General Alberto articulates with General Orlov a anti-terrorist lightning attack near Sao Luiz, Maranhao, to eradicate the parallel power of 'Red Cartel' by 'Fernandinho' Almeida Vargas; the attack is successful and 'Fernandinho' is killed by russian troops in his luxurious mansion. As gratitude for the successful operation the Russians gain authorization from the Brazilian government to remain indefinitely in Bacabal Base - that was being built.
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With an optimal fluidity of capital for investments the Brazilian state sector presented the first 1000 hps biofuel engine - 'BCE-X400' - for civilian purposes; this engine revolutionary for the industry and transports works with a powerful new biofuel - 'BioF Max' - that has the formula kept secret.
The other Brazilian invention is the 'Petrofibers' consisting of a new generation of fiber coatings; such fiber is extremely resistant to almost any kind of damage, and has an internal and external market promising ahead.

2043. Trade between Latinos and Russians grows considerably as a result of the initiatives of Belgrad Forum and later the Pact of Buenos Aires; between products marketed stands out minerals, aerospace components and heavy machinery for the Latin industry; the Prime Minister of Russia, Valentina Baranova, visiting Argentina and organizes an expedition with military and scientists to the far South Pole, revitalizing the Argentine dreams of a larger domain in internationally disputed region.

Venezuela is authorized by Russian Ministry of Defence to further modernize the tank Kodiak transforming the medium tank in a heavy tank, adapted to the terrain in South America.

The Brazilian Northeast - including the region of Maranhao - is finally awarded by the transposition of the Sao Francisco River. The Brazilians Northeasterners leave the poverty line that struck the region for centuries; finally the arid region is irrigated by artificial river arms. The 'Red Cartel' that had settled under the poverty of the people is cornered by a more present state, so the narco-terrorists lose strength and the number of members decreases radically until to falls into a quasi-oblivion.

2044.

South American Army Creation

Is officially created the 'South American Army' as a elite military force for rapid response and defense in case of crisis throughout South America. Each member country of the block collaborates with financial and personnel for the maintenance of the army that was fixed in 558,000 men, can be expanded through a reservation for more 1,500,000 men, totaling in wartime a effective of 2,058,000 men, most the effective of the regular armies of South America.

The SAA uses what is most modern in the armies of South America, have highly trained soldiers, is characterized by having quick and light vehicles, with moderate firepower and moderate armor, however are easy to maintain and extremely economic, being an excellent choice for a scenario of prolonged war where the SAP is in disadvantage against another military power.

The Bolivarian Guard continues to exist in South America; soldiers of both armies did not have a good relationship with each other, and the Bolivarian envy their 'wealthy brothers' of the South American Army.
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In December the SAA has its baptism of fire fighting narco-guerrillas in Central Colombia; the 'Operation Cobra' is successful and the enemy leaders are neutralized weakening the guerrillas.



The governments of Honduras, Panama and Costa Rica abandoned by the USA - traditional ally - intend to join the common market of the Pan-American Trade Pact; NAU leaders have demonstrated economic concerns regarding this membership - especially with Panama and the canal.

Cuba and Venezuela using reverse engineering modify S-300 Grumble purchased from Russia and create the 'Anaconda' anti-aerial system; Anaconda uses basically the Latin technology and is smaller and more agile than the Russian giant.

The first photobioreactor is built in Chile; other smaller operating in public buildings in the main capitals of South America.

According to the latest SAP's surveys 70 millions of people left poverty in recent years in the South American continent due to a process of 'Brazilification' that includes social measures and investments of self-sustainability; this new middle class has become a new consumer market that helps in the economic development of the block.


===== WORLD WAR III PERIOD =====



2045.

Natural Disaster in Cuba

Events of drought and wildfire destroy important crops of Cuba making good portion of the annual crop lost; Cubans revolt against Europeans, accusing the ECA of being behind the climate attacks; in Europe the charges are countered by the authorities who blame global warming for what happened. To contain outbreaks of fire aircrafts departing of the South America toward Cuba carrying chemical solutions to make artificial rain and fight the fire.

The SAP is indirectly harmed by the lost crop of Cuba; the price of biofuel rises by 30% and selling of cars powered with biofuel falls; SAP is obliged to intervene in the market and the manufacturers of gasoline powered cars have frozen the production until the situation normalizes. The Development Bank of SAP promises financial aid to help with the agricultural recovery of the nation.
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The leaders of SAP, as well as the presidents of Latin American nations condemn the attacks allegedly committed by Europeans against nuclear facilities in Kaliningrad, against the Russia Federation, expressed solidarity to the President Suvorov and affirm the commitment to provide all kind of 'non-military assistance' to Russia.
In the wake of events starts World War III between the Russian Federation and the member countries of the ECA.

2046. The SAP increases the amount of food exported to Russia during the war; items like medicines and clothing are also exported.

The price of biofuel remains high and staple foods has increased 15-20% as a consequence of the increase of areas intended for food production being replaced by areas of crops intended for biofuel. In consequence of this measure adopted by the High Council several people held protests in various cities in South America criticizing the high prices in the market.

In Havana, Cuba, representatives of the countries of Central America and South America meet to discuss the inclusion of countries in the Pan-American Trade Pact, after the meeting is decided that from 1 January these countries will be part of the economic bloc, partner of SAP.

The South American Army conducts military exercises across the continent on a large scale; are tested integration capabilities of various military forces in a hypothetical scenario of attack and invasion by a regular enemy army.

Is recorded in a week 4 hurricanes at sea, off the coast of Santa Catarina, Brazil. The rare phenomena are considered a tropical climate anomaly.



2047.

Pan-American Pact New Members

The countries of Guatemala, Nicaragua, Honduras, Panama and Costa Rica are officially incorporated into the Pan-American Trade Pact, and aiming a promising biofuel market in South America begin to cultivate large plantations.
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American Isthmus War (Central American War)

In February revolutionary peasants, indoctrinated by the Cuban Army, gave a coup against the government of Panama, the act was justified by the need to protect the state against 'the eminent imperialist aggression'; without facing considerable resistance gained the victory and the president was ousted. After the coup a military junta was formed by Panamanian military and peasants; the first measure taken was the recession of the Panama Canal by the Americans and Europeans violating previous agreements.

The NAU's countries condemned the coup in Panama and promised to use the 'necessary measures' to regain territory and restore democracy. A week later a Cuban military ship was destroyed in the Caribbean Sea by the USA's Air Force accused of supplying weapons to the revolutionaries; two days after the American General Thorn was designed to regain control of the Panama Canal; 'Operation Bad Choice' was carried out by SEAL, Delta Force and Green Berets units, confronting and defeating the 'Latino terrorists' - as the USA's media called the revolutionaries. Without suffering many casualties at first the canal was captured and defended by a group of approximately 1,000 troops; in the following days fierce fighting involving 'junta' and the elite troops of the USA caused the death of more than 1,000 revolutionaries. With the worsening situation in Panama the General Bradley was requested to conduct a massive ground operation against the revolutionaries; Bradley coordinated three American/Canadian/Mexican battalions of over 300 tanks each; when the tanks entered in the territory of Guatemala were ambushed by revolutionaries and began fighting, the troops of General Bradley continued their advance towards Panama facing an increasingly strong resistance.

On the outskirts of San Jose, Costa Rica, the Central American revolutionaries called for help to the Bolivarian brothers from South America to fight against 'imperialism'; in support to the revolutionaries fight the Bolivarian Guard led by General Mendoza left to fight the Americans in Costa Rica - Colombia authorized the military presence on its territory; the help of the ALBA countries has not been officially confirmed by any government of South America - the High Council of the SAP authorized the deployment of the military to support Latinos in Central America - however it was evident due to the semi-professional/professional level of they were fighters belonging to the Bolivarian Guard.

The militaries of General Thorn in Panama Canal surrendered before the Bolivarian's reinforcements; occurred in the region of Veraguas major fighting involving the two armies and hundreds of Americans/Mexicans tanks were destroyed.

In May come reinforcements on both sides; the USA sent the new Paladin tanks, the ALBA new Jaguar tanks - a result of modifying the Russian Kodiak by Venezuelans; Jaguar received the new Brazilian tank engine 1,730 hps 'BCE-X400S', making the tank much faster than the original; the fighting involving the two heavy tanks devastated the region.

Adopting a tactic of 'scorched earth' the forces of the USA, Canada and Mexico regrouped on the border of Costa Rica where concentrated 3,500 tanks and 55,000 marines for a final offensive against the revolutionaries and the Bolivarian Guard. A powerful offensive pushed the revolutionary forces to the region of Darien and the coup government was overthrown by the Americans, Canadians and Mexicans who returning the control to the Panama Canal.

The dangerous situation on the borders of SAP has made the SAA were mobilized in Colombia for a possible defense of the sovereignty of South America. Brazil was authorized to send to the Caribbean Sea the aircraft carrier Admiral Barroso to deter the foreign troops not to attempt any aggression against South America.

With the virtual defeat of the Latins in the war for control of the Panama Canal Cuba sent to the canal experienced Avispas Negras sappers to destroy the structure controlled by the enemy, cutting the main trade and military route between the Pacific and the Atlantic; Cubans sappers get success in the mission and destroyed the locks on the canal.

Without yet knowing exactly who had sabotaged the Panama Canal the American government authorized a controversial attack against the Brazilian aircraft carrier Admiral Barroso, on the Caribbean Sea, to intimidate the nations of South America - supporters of the revolution in Panama; USAF General Griffon was ordered to sink the ship, then made use of the latest generation hypersonico bomber Aurora; the attack was a success and in an hour the Admiral Barroso had completely sunk in the waters of the Caribbean Sea; the SAP condemned the attack which was considered by Brazil an 'act of war' - although it has not retaliated.

Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica and Panama were occupied by a force of 70,000 Mexicans, 100,000 Americans and 30,000 Canadians who constantly perform 'anti-terrorist operations' in order to neutralize revolutionaries groups. The Darién region has become a militarized zone dividing the two blocks, is fortified and has reinforced security. With the end of the war most of the infrastructure of the countries of Central America was collapsing and important crops intended for bio-fuel of SAP were destroyed; NAU puppet governments were constituted signing of defense and construction contracts for the reconstruction of the territory; was decreed to ban the planting of certain crops in Central America, as an anti-biofuel measure, then old cultures like the banana again be encouraged.

In total died in the 'American Isthmus War' 9,420 Mexicans, 13,766 Americans, 5,323 Canadians and 242,594 revolutionaries and soldiers of the Bolivarian Guard, besides 313,618 civilians. The war officially lasted six months - February-June.




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Falkland War II

In March, taking advantage of the situation in the UK - under siege by Russian forces as was planned secretly in the 'Pact of Buenos Aires' - Argentinian marines led by General Diego Castillo Nunes began 'Operation Silver Sea' and to assail and annex the British Falkland Island. After thirty days of combat and a balance of 412 Argentine casualties and 877 British casualties; the war for control of the islands ended with the victory of Argentina over the UK. The ECA formally declared war to the Argentina a week after the conquest and the USA condemn military actions. Despite the declaration of war against Argentina no military action was recorded by both parties.
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Operation Sunscreem

In October secretly Russia in partnership with the SAA's intelligence organizes 'Operation Sunscreen' against the ESA's Solaris Reactor and the nerve center of the system, in Korou, French Guiana. The mission is successful and ECA's defenses are neutralized, despite Russian casualties; solaris system is infected by a powerful computer virus and stops functioning, leading to the collapse of the European energy system, after Latinos - as part of a predetermined agreement - take control of the facilities of ESA to study the revolutionary European technology; 12 hours after the invasion a group of commands has sent to Guyana to sabotages facilities destroying the entire complex solaris and killing all scientists and engineers in the area.
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2048.

El Renegade Hunting

The folk hero of the Bolivarian Guard, 'El Renegade', after his feats in American Isthmus War has idolized as a true deity in South America, especially in the Bolivarian countries; as a punitive response the Pentagon articulates the 'Operation Deathblow' to eliminate veteran soldier in the region of Barinas, Venezuela. To perform the Operation Deathblow dozens of advanced terrestrial drones were used, however the Bolivarian expert survived the assassination attempt, alone eliminating most enemy drones, after the victory the reputation of 'El Renegade' further increased in South Amercia and the Pentagon is humiliated after the failure of the mission.
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Argentina creates a naval base in the former Falklands - now Malvinas - and proceeds to perform constant naval exercises with allied navies in the waters around the islands; General Castillo receives the maximum military decorations and joins the SAA forming an outpost in the Malvinas with 3.000 soldiers and an advanced radar system.

The first 'bio-energetic farm' is built in Paraguay occupying a vast area in the region of Amambay, employing thousands of people and producing renewable energy for the entire population of the province.



The Brazil producing new ballistic vests with petrofibers, lighter and more resistant than conventional vests.

2049.

Cuba Intervention

In January, when entering the waters of Cuba the American destroyer John Kerry was preemptively attacked by Berkut fighters of Cuba; President Willie Bradford immediately authorized an aerial retaliation against military targets of Cuba; General Griffon using the King Raptor fighters and Night Hawk bombers to surgically bombed, with the support of tomahawk missiles and UAVs, hundreds of targets on the island destroying several military bases, defense industries, and stores of weapons and ammunition.

Cuban air force has not left the ground and was completely destroyed by the attacks that lasted 20 days; new Anaconda systems made 'Cuba Intervention' not fully inglorious for Cubans who were able to shoot down 5 King Raptors - one historical prowess - ignited a wave of protests throughout Cuban society, and South America repudiated the attacks providing humanitarian aid to Cuba.


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The locks of the Panama Canal are repaired by Mexicans and Americans, but only small boats can cross the channel; General Willen of the the ECA is contacted and decides to help by sending to Panama a team of engineers to proceed with advanced repairs.



EDIT: Added two new pictures to illustrate the story and corrected some minor details about Canada in the 'Central American War'.

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Holy guaquamole! This is... this is the most awesome fan-fic I have ever read on this forum. Even better than Aviation Monthly! I applaud you, Crusher, for your amazing piece of fiction that IMO should be declared canon because this is just... amazing. MARS and Crusher question: Can we make a South American Pact page on the wiki, and use all the text and images here for the wiki with proper credits to Crusher? I think it would fit perfectly. Again; very well done, senor.


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QUOTE (Svea Rike @ 24 Sep 2014, 9:27) *
Holy guaquamole! This is... this is the most awesome fan-fic I have ever read on this forum. Even better than Aviation Monthly! I applaud you, Crusher, for your amazing piece of fiction that IMO should be declared canon because this is just... amazing. MARS and Crusher question: Can we make a South American Pact page on the wiki, and use all the text and images here for the wiki with proper credits to Crusher? I think it would fit perfectly. Again; very well done, senor.

Many thanks for the words; I really devoted a few months working on this daily up to eight hours, but the result seems to be satisfactory. wink.gif

For my part you have authorization - please give proper credit.

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Why wouldn't the Canadians back up their NAU allies in this border conflict?

It seems from the way you worded it, they only showed up AFTER the main fighting was over.

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Why wouldn't the Canadians back up their NAU allies in this border conflict?

It seems from the way you worded it, they only showed up AFTER the main fighting was over.

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Is NAU even a military alliance? I recall MARS stating it to be an economic union, like the EU, without any military connection.

In fact are not , for that not even have an joint army - though acting in sync - but the USA puts pressure on the economic block that was directed to fight against the rebels in Central America in order to counteract the interests mainly of SAP with respect to biofuels; that not only competed with the ECA Solaris but also with electric cars of the USA and with the program of fossil fuels of the NAU - probably the world's largest extractor - these factors associated with a possible greater autonomy of Central American nations culminated in the occupation of the region; an interesting fact is that the old Crusaders of the USA sold a few years before to Mexico won the light again in battle for control of Central America, new weapons were later sold to Mexico in order to modernize its army - which has increased internal military demand of the block - and the policy change and the 're-establishment' of the old policy in Central America were again favorable for the USA and the NAU - especially the economy.

EDIT: It is also important to say that in this period the economy of the USA was in full force with the new economic measures of the NAU, would be an irreparable loss to the USA in case that the Central America changed its geopolitical/economic direction; another country that would suffer much from it would be Mexico that depended on the USA's gigantic industries - for this reason plunged into war - already Canada (taking into account the fanfiction Serialkillerwhale) had economic and military interests in the conflict - test your new fighter of last generation and some of their new war toys - because Canada needed a 'test' to show muscles against Russia and prepare for a possible large-scale conflict - their main enemy in the Arctic region. So innumerable converging factors have come to launch the NAU's countries in a joint offensive.

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Nice work mostly, but something is bugging me. Why the Americans made their way to Panama through all Central America, invading (and literally declaring war on) so many countries in the process, when would be much easier to secure a beach on Panama and deploy such armored divisions by sea, with his unrivaled navy? And what about the Nicaragua Channel? By that time will be finished and China certainly will be involved in the defense of such important asset. I know this is a fanFICTION but found very hard to believe this whole part of the USA entering in a full scale war and occupation of so many countries just for the sake of it. I think this whole part of the Isthmus War should be revised in order to be considered canon...

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QUOTE (Karpet @ 28 Sep 2014, 20:49) *
This is one awesome fanfic.

Keep up the excellent work Crusher. I agree with Svea, this is pretty much the best fanfic on this entire forum.

Thank you for your positive review, I will continue trying to maintain this level in the coming fanfiction.

QUOTE (CheoRock @ 29 Sep 2014, 2:50) *
Nice work mostly, but something is bugging me. Why the Americans made their way to Panama through all Central America, invading (and literally declaring war on) so many countries in the process, when would be much easier to secure a beach on Panama and deploy such armored divisions by sea, with his unrivaled navy? And what about the Nicaragua Channel? By that time will be finished and China certainly will be involved in the defense of such important asset. I know this is a fanFICTION but found very hard to believe this whole part of the USA entering in a full scale war and occupation of so many countries just for the sake of it. I think this whole part of the Isthmus War should be revised in order to be considered canon...

Thank you. The countries of Central America were invaded because their governments had sided with SAP and the cultivation of crops such as bananas - currently encouraged by the USA - was replaced by soybean, sunflower, corn and other crops to produce biofuels, then the USA and NAU saw their commercial and military interests - Panama Canal - quickly deteriorate; Another factor was the fact that the Latin influence revolutionary movements in Mexico, which would be very dangerous for the NAU, so a quick response was needed.

Another point is that there were the General Thorn's men in situation of siege in Canal, if the security mission failed and General Bradley did not come to the rescue by land would be a great military humiliation for the USA, and in any case after the daring attacks in Panama the USA and NAU were forced to hunt down all the rebels wherever they are.

Occupying Central America by land several biofuel crops were destroyed and the ground troops have banned such crops as fiscal.

I did not mention amphibious assaults or naval support but it is to be presumed that occur in some regions and note that I mentioned marines and not rangers - the traditional infantry - since bradley fighting was 'at home' with its divisions of marines - and not using their expeditionary forces of Europe.


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Hi, im from Uruguay... so... if you don't mind i will give my ideas.

-First of all I want a special unit (like seals or green beret) called "Gaucho" xD.
-Aircraft of the "Pact" should be the famous Argentina "Mirage". They were amazig pilots in the Malvinas War.

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Very interesting read and quite alot of nice stuff but i have to say i have a huge addendum to this. Imo you and TheGeneral should've kept this independent from eachother. While a unified S America may sound plausible, a unified balkans, especially around Serbia is nothing more than TheGenerals wet dream. Serbia stronk - remove kebab is pretty much all that will ever be. Almost no country in the region likes Serbia's ultra nationalistic views and they had fucktons of diplomatic conflict with every neighbour. With traditional pro-western countries like Croatia, Macedonia, Greece, Slovenia, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Romania and Bulgaria as well as their already known conflict with Albania - the only balkan league that will ever happen is anything but around Serbia. Not only that but Serbia is not even one of the major military powers in the region. Turkey and Poland would never ever allow such a thing to happen next to them even if all of a sudden everyone started loving Serbia as our holy protector and lighthouse of culture. And tbh many countries including my own would much rather join an alliance built around Poland/Czech Republic than Serbia.
So tl'dr - the SAP lore is quite nice, but the whole Serbia stronk link section is extremely unbelievable.

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Hi, im from Uruguay... so... if you don't mind i will give my ideas.

-First of all I want a special unit (like seals or green beret) called "Gaucho" xD.
-Aircraft of the "Pact" should be the famous Argentina "Mirage". They were amazig pilots in the Malvinas War.

and... thats all xD no more ideas. :3

Hello, it's always nice to meet a new friend from Uruguay. smile.gif

I'm glad you have enjoyed this fanfiction; about their suggestions you can see that the Gaucho is a land recon unit and the Mirage in fact exists under the name of 'Nasher Fighter', is accessible through a general power, check it all here: Fanfiction|Alternative Reality|South American Pact Army

QUOTE (Anubis @ 26 Oct 2014, 7:13) *
Very interesting read and quite alot of nice stuff but i have to say i have a huge addendum to this. Imo you and TheGeneral should've kept this independent from eachother. While a unified S America may sound plausible, a unified balkans, especially around Serbia is nothing more than TheGenerals wet dream. Serbia stronk - remove kebab is pretty much all that will ever be. Almost no country in the region likes Serbia's ultra nationalistic views and they had fucktons of diplomatic conflict with every neighbour. With traditional pro-western countries like Croatia, Macedonia, Greece, Slovenia, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Romania and Bulgaria as well as their already known conflict with Albania - the only balkan league that will ever happen is anything but around Serbia. Not only that but Serbia is not even one of the major military powers in the region. Turkey and Poland would never ever allow such a thing to happen next to them even if all of a sudden everyone started loving Serbia as our holy protector and lighthouse of culture. And tbh many countries including my own would much rather join an alliance built around Poland/Czech Republic than Serbia.
So tl'dr - the SAP lore is quite nice, but the whole Serbia stronk link section is extremely unbelievable.

Thanks for reading and enjoy. wink.gif

I particularly like the idea of @The General and the Balkan Confederation, but I understand your point and I confess that I also think something 'bold', but for a fiction in a relatively distant future may be something plausible and even cool for ROTR already I see the BC a kind of imperial confederation ultra-nationalist - something unique factions within the ROTR - so a good opportunity for greater diversity in terms of lore.

About the link between the South American Pact and the Balkan Confederation I can tell you that has little in common in politically sphere - and probably never will - only the fact that they are two 'semi-progressive socialists blocks' in a certain scale; the more links extend into exchanges of experiences in areas such as agriculture and mining and Serbia becomes a kind of 'gateway' to the market of South America to the Balkans and to Russia.


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AFAIK the Balkan Confederation is just an alliance not a real nation. According to the lore the nations around Serbia/former Yugoslavia were pushed away from the ECA when they really needed, which resulted in economic downfall, a surge of nationalism (even fascism in Greece) and Serbia allowed them to create their own economic and political sphere with assistance from Russia. You've got to remember: This is the future of a video game, not modern reality.

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Lemme put it like this cause you guys seem to fail to understand - Serbia is not seen by ANYONE as even remotely similar to a power you can rally around in this region. Not only that but they are not military relevant enough to rally larger countries - in the area and their economy is one of the lowest in the balkans. Again, even in the rotr storyline and events the chances of Serbia ever be anything more than a pawn of Russia and at war with half of the balkans is anything but a sweat dream. This is about as plausible as count Dracula taking over Romania and making a vampire state.
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Granted that's true but in General's story Serbia becomes increasingly nationalistic and actually does wage war against neighboring nations to conquer them and possibly restore Yugoslavia, but instead - with assistance from Russia - they form an alliance with equally nationalistic countries in the Balkans. General could probably tell it better. But anyway, the lore stands and the BC is an actual thing that even is involved in WW3 on a small scale.


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I'll try to answer everything in this one post, and avoid writing about it again because there's an actual topic about BC. If anyone wants to talk with me about it further, i can continue either on the BC topic or in private messages. This topic is about SAP.

Crusher's fanfic doesn't refer to mine much, neither does my to his, there's only a few sentences which connect our two fanfictions. BC and SAP are still diferent, as BC still has 'old scores to settle' and is conveniently an extended arm of Russia. So, BC and SAP are trade partners ( especialy after the sanctions ), they support eachother politicaly, and slowly exchange certain technologies/improvements ( there BC is far more cautious, so the result is that not much is exchanged before the end of Russo-ECA war).

We agreed that Crusher will develop the SAP story and i the BC story independently, while consulting eachother for ideas and opinions. We also have a plan to make something like an "expansion", which will be our joint project. That's the main reason why we synced our fanfictions.


QUOTE (Anubis @ 26 Oct 2014, 11:13) *
Very interesting read and quite alot of nice stuff but i have to say i have a huge addendum to this. Imo you and TheGeneral should've kept this independent from eachother. While a unified S America may sound plausible, a unified balkans, especially around Serbia is nothing more than TheGenerals wet dream. Serbia stronk - remove kebab is pretty much all that will ever be. Almost no country in the region likes Serbia's ultra nationalistic views and they had fucktons of diplomatic conflict with every neighbour. With traditional pro-western countries like Croatia, Macedonia, Greece, Slovenia, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Romania and Bulgaria as well as their already known conflict with Albania - the only balkan league that will ever happen is anything but around Serbia. Not only that but Serbia is not even one of the major military powers in the region. Turkey and Poland would never ever allow such a thing to happen next to them even if all of a sudden everyone started loving Serbia as our holy protector and lighthouse of culture. And tbh many countries including my own would much rather join an alliance built around Poland/Czech Republic than Serbia.
So tl'dr - the SAP lore is quite nice, but the whole Serbia stronk link section is extremely unbelievable.



Greece also has an ultra-nationalist government in the cannon, which is even more nationalistic than Serbia. Cannon mentions Greece as lead by ultra-nationalists, while it mentions Serbia was 'the most developed in the region' ( or something like that ) and that there was a coup. From there i built up to everything else. Also, all those 'traditional pro-western countries' as you call them, were left out by ECA. They got the boot, and no one asked their opinion, while Russia 'built up the left out region a little' ( again i'm not sure about the words, but it's something like that ). So i doubt many would be ECAenthusiasts.

If you read my fanfic ( somwhere after year 2043/4. ), you'll see everything how it is. Serbia and Greece are both lead by nationalists with almost identical ideology, altough Greece's is less tolerant ( cannon says some westerners call their ideology 'fascist' ). They easily connect with eachother, thanks to the historical good relations between Serbia and Greece ( like with Russia, Serbia never went to war with Greece ). That is the key factor that built BC, Romania and Bulgaria don't have ties that strong with anyone, and BC was their chance to 'get out of the mud and build up', as much as possible. We can assume Russia 'helped' them choose, still having a significant influence on the entire region. Bulgaria and Romania also probably had nationalist governments, altough they were much less influental from the ones in Serbia and Greece.
I haven't wrote much about the involvement of BC in the Russo-ECA war yet ( and what i did can be changed in the future versions ), but even now you can see who are the most active members there ( altough i'm trying not to neglect the others who are less active ).

I wrote the pre-unification period ( before 2045. ) from the Serbian perspective precisely to avoid making huge/medium/crucial mistakes. My knowledge about all four members of BC is not equal, which is why i picked the one i know the best to tell the 'pre unification tale'. The only thing i tok from reality is the relations between those four nations.
Also, Serbia has it's own military production even now, and it kept it in ROTR. All i did is enhance and upgrade it.


QUOTE (Svea Rike @ 26 Oct 2014, 14:15) *
Granted that's true but in General's story Serbia becomes increasingly nationalistic and actually does wage war against neighboring nations to conquer them and possibly restore Yugoslavia, but instead - with assistance from Russia - they form an alliance with equally nationalistic countries in the Balkans. General could probably tell it better. But anyway, the lore stands and the BC is an actual thing that even is involved in WW3 on a small scale.


The nationalist party in Serbia does get in power having a huge support from the poppulation, which starts slowly descending later.
In cannon map Serbia is shown with today's territories of B&H, FYROM and Montenegro. In my fanfiction, FYROM and Montenegro voluntarily join Serbia ( more on their status within Serbia is planned for later ). Half of B&H ( the Serbian entity of Republika Srpska ) joins Serbia, the other entity ( Federation of B&H ) tries to stop it and a war brakes out. That's the only war between ex-Yougoslav countries, or to be precise: against Serbia and a half of B&H.

The goal isn't to restore Yougoslavia, and there's no official goal to do anything similar. The aggressive policy of Serbia against a ex-Yougoslav country ( Croatia ) isn't shown untill later, but then Serbia acts with the rest of BC ( mainly Greece ) and without much open confrontation.




P.S. Sorry Crusher, i won't write about this here anymore. 8Isov.gif

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QUOTE (__CrUsHeR @ 27 Oct 2014, 14:54) *
While I think it is better to separate discussions to facilitate understanding and discussion of the fans feel free to comment here, after all this space is also yours. wink.gif


I'm glad you understand comrade. mani8.gif

I agree that it's best to keep the topics in their own threads, because this is not a political theme which needs many related situations and depends on many external factors which should discussed. The only factor this fanfic depends on is your will to write something.

While i'm all for explaining the relations between SAP and BC ( where we both can participate somehow ), as that part is also a part of SAP, but i don't think we should discuss BC here. Unless, as i wrote, it's about BC's relations with SAP. And for a matter of fact, BC-SAP relations can be discussed on one of or both our fanfics, as it's related with both.
Anyway, i don't think there's much to discuss right now because the relations are relativly simple at this point.


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Operation "Removal" fanfiction - last edited 01.07.2015.( episode #4 part 2 added-fanfiction complete )


Russia: The Evil Empire.
Russian occupators video.
Do not watch RT !
Noam Chomsky on the Genocide in Kosovo.
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