Just saw this trailer and it looks pretty good.

Act of Aggression

Do you have any more information on this game?

P.S. the music is lame!

There's a gameplay trailer for one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vefhZp-d_uw

Having played the Wargame series, I am quite interested in this one as well, although I am curious as to how infantry combat is going to work out with retro RTS mechanics in what appears to be very large scale.

I hope it'll work somewhat like Act of War.

I've got Act of War on an original disk, found many fun hours in it... now this looks somewhat similar with familiar looks and features. I'm looking forward to this game.

And yes, Tank shells actually ripped apart infantry in Act of war however it was also good idea to stay away from AT guys as they were really effective against vehicles as well.

It looks a little bit boxy... but at least not as cartoony as RA3 or, imo SC2. I guess I'll wait for more stuff to come out before judging anything.

AWESOME!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vefhZp-d_uw...yer_profilepage

Already linked that in my first post in this thread

Looking forward to it, gameplay trailer looks promising. IIRC they want to release this spring and we are still in pre-alpha ? There was really a lack of information since the announcement in summer 2014, although I found a preview not long ago from an austrian game magazine and they revealed some pretty interesting features.

-Buildings in a Base are growing together by roads and paths, so that your base looks like a proper base and not just like some random placed buildings.
-No centralized economy: if you have an outpost with some warfactories, you have to send ressources there by yourself to keep it running, beware of ambushes and sneak attacks
-all units need gas and ammo to function

More info to come, I guess.

I love the Wargame series and I think Eugen will deliver a pretty interesting RTS for us. If someone wants to play some Red Dragon, let me know.

I'm keeping my eyes on this one. and I have done so for quite a while

New trailer explaining the US faction

Ahoy! de pirates ar wayting! Arr!

I saw that trailer earlier today, I'm really excited to see the other 2 factions.

stumbled upon this interview today:



Some interesting information and also surprise surprise the devs were apparently big Generals fans

Im really excited since I was one of 10 people that actually loved AoW Direct Action. However, I also really hated RUSE/Wargame (very different cups of tea) and im worried some of those game will bleed into this one.

I was also a little disappointed about the factions. Heres to hoping they add more of them. The Cartel and U.N. are... well, they're so-so.

This all feels a bit too much like a re-treading of old ground. AoW:DA had the same structure; US Army, [Faction built around high tech high efficiency high cost units], [factioon built around low cost low efficiency units] only now the high tech guys are the antagonists.

Also kind of hate the name 'Cartel' for these people. Its both a little too similar to AoW's Consortium and a little hackneyed; I keep thinking of some drug dealing syndicate instead of PMCs.

We'll see. I really want this to be great and succeed honestly. The market for this kind of RTS is near dead, despite so many cnc players just being around.

Random reasources is interesting but also troubling. Its RNG gameplay, and hard to balance. It also begets the question, will there be a secondary economy, and to what extent is this primary economy going to be automatizable? If you need to micromanage multiple scanner teams to find resources every 3-4 minutes it will kill this game I fear.

Lets all also hope they focus on a macro heavy model here. Micro is all well and good but if they focus on micromanagement SC2 will have them beat. There have been a whole lot of real time tactical and micro heavy games lately. Bloody hell, what ever happened to base building.

As a final point, they had better not put in any sort of unit limit. None. Not even Act of War made that sin. If theres a unit limit outside of maybe a limit on commandoes and super-units, I'm bailing.

Based on this interview and how long it takes to explain things I predict this game will never actually get released.

I hope it does though, looks interesting.

The idea of being based on controlling logistics instead of telling tank#3 to hit the enemy on the LEFT then to drive 2 feet backwards is a BIG step forward in my books.

Agreed, definitely do not want a RTT game. I was just worried about having to babysit all of my resourcing operations instead of fighting battles

Yeah, that's true, but APM and micro aren't really what you expect when you think of the genre, and honestly, the CNC style of strategy game is much better than the tired old "microfest". The cnc series went belly up because of retarded EA management and not being the national sport of Korea, not because of any deficencies in the style nor the games themselves (Beyond nod tending to be OP as fuck)

I agree with all of your points. I own both SC2 and SC2 HOTS but havent played either in a year or so precisely because I found the multiplayer distasteful.

Surely you can give a little and perhaps nod that focusing TOO much on resource collection COULD (not necessarily will, i havent played Act of Aggression) hurt the game?

True. Wasn't disagreeing that I found it a bit intimidating to have vulnerable convoys (Great, as if the stealth faction needed another edge).

Personally I'm really liking the overall design.
From what I can dig up through trawling through a lot of stuff
This is how the factions are designed
U.S (Heavy armour- ROTR's Russia, Red Alert Soviets, House Harkonnen etc.)
Cartel (No not Mexicans- The Cartel are the military-industrial complexes' private army basically. They combine prototypes from the U.S, China, Russia (there's a Koalition MSTA in their forces ), South Africa and Sweden- and this is just from what we've seen.)
The Chimera (These guys are essentially a U.N. military task force minus the U.S, they have European, (a) South African and Russian units and there most likely will be other nations in there)

Despite some of the overlap, these factions seem pretty exciting and of course channel the Act of War factions:
U.S: U.S
Cartel: Consortium (Albeit the Cartel will be more high-tech)
Chimera: Task Force Talon (Albeit Chimera is more regular and doesn't use many- if any U.S weapons)


The Wiki has a lot more detail:
http://actofaggression.wikia.com/wiki/Act_of_Aggression_Wiki

New webpage is up, I thought I let you guys know, if you have still interest in the game
Act of Aggression Homepage

Also POW-system confirmed, similar to the side missions in Cold war crysis you can get extra cash by capturing enemy soldiers or vehicle crews after you blew up their vehicle.

Woohoo! I'm in for the beta test of this, downloading now...

"We are happy to inform you that you have been selected to participate in the Act of Aggression VIP Beta, which will take place from Friday 15th to Sunday 17th."

I feel so...special¹. Like VIP special.

I'm not sure if the date range from Friday to Sunday means that's the period for online multiplayer or if the game can be played solo/skirmish.

¹Now's about the time everyone else chimes in and says they're an AoA beta tester too but they're not such a lame noob to announce the fact.

Update: "This beta enables you to play multiplayer games only, and with only one faction: the US Army.
Three maps are available, one in 1vs1, one in 2vs2, and one in 2vs2 and 4 players FFA."

Oh great, I sense repeated legendary ass-kickings in my near future.

Just got into the beta as well and my first impression so far is this:

-I'd take CoH and even Gen's in-your-face camera than what AoA has.
-Early game is slow and i mean really slow to the point even CoH and Starcraft 2 laughs at it.
-Resource management has too much micro for no solid reason other than "look cool" and "innovative".
-Aircrafts are godawful slow that even the B52's in C&C Generals were way faster than the F35 lightnings in this game.
...and lastly, Eugen really needs to STOP calling this as a "C&C Generals successor" or even linking it to the (now hibernating) C&C franchise. Infact, it's predecessor, Act of war felt more C&C-ish than this game.

WOW... thats pretty hard words you write and it seems the recourse system and some other parts are pointless, but this is an Beta, and they could still change these easily.
But yes Act of War was the last command and conquer that was well made (oh and you notice something? )

Act of Aggression tries a bit too much, but also is too similar to AOW, even the factions are almost carbon copies with different skin, but this can be a good thing actually. The factions are still much better visually than any other faction, as they atleast use real designs and not fictional crap.

Just the camo they use for the cartel is a bit too overdone looks to much like TRON. But the Cartel is interesting because its reminicient of that Peace Walker CIA group.

Yeah, it's true that it's beta and they could still change alot of things. But regarding the resource mechanics, reading their forums seems i'm not the only one who thinks its way too overcomplicated and practically bogs down the game. Infact, even CoH's overcomplicated resource mechanics was more fluid and easier to pick up and learn compared to this..




Honestly, this is what i truly feel about Act of Agression; It tries way too hard to be C&C and Act of War at the same time. As for usage of 'real designs', well, they practically grabbed all the Wargames assets and shoved it into Act of agression. ~ 10/10 quality recycling.

I am honestly confused, the mechanics are the same (some units just cost money, other also need aluminium and hight tech ones need rare metals, similar to units in CoH needing either manpower or a combination), the only slighly confusing thing is the placement of the refinery (it needs to cover the resources with its area, not the actual footprint) or the US building for rare metals i forgot the name off and rare metals and aluminium needing silos
so i dont get where the hell this overcomplicated think came from

i do agree planes are slow though specially with the map size

The overcomplication came from the fact that while the resource networking was a good idea, on paper, it was badly executed in the actual game. They might as well call the game "Act of Resource Baby Sitting" or what a forumer said: "FedEx Logistic /Amazon Storage simulator".

Infact, even CoH's multiple resources were easier to pick up (from a casual perspective) and manage because once you chained them up those territories, everything goes full automatic and you don't need to manually set up different resource chains where trucks can actually get stuck or lost or even both.

Gameplay + Honest criticism video of Act of Agression by Generals Gentlemen:



Just a gameplay video by VulcanHDGaming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXCRk84A1WQ

They released the introduction trailer to the Chimera faction.

Ooh ... the long-range cannons and power-providing HQ make me think of ECA, not to mention the exosuit infantry. They seem like a pretty sweet faction. c:

Chimera seems to be very close to the TFT in Act of War, without outright being the TFT, which is nice

I'm really looking forward to the Cartel.

Chimera and Cartel were the ones that really interested me while the US was more of a distraction.

i really like the idea behind the Cartel and their sort of Private Military/Corporatist. Personally I prefer this backstory to that of the Consortium. Noticeable also is that unlike the Consrtium, the Cartel are high-tech all the way. They don't have AK-47 soldiers and RPG teams (From what I understand at least).

I must say, having observed this game for some time, I am growing just a little skeptical. It may still be a beta but something about the gameplay, just the way units move and behave rubs me the wrong way. I don't know, perhaps it's just me being too used to smaller scale, more tactical games like CoH these days but seeing this more arcady style of gameplay (where you never really micro a single unit but always throw around whole clusters of tanks and helicopters) rendered in modern realistic graphics just seems really jarring to me. There also seems to be something about the lighting and the overall visual language that looks off to me personally. The resource system seems to be trying too hard to be unique and becomes clunky in the process (how is that a throwback to '90s C&C style RTS'?), not to mention that seeing all these oil and crystal pits scattered around the landscape, often alligned in grid formations, just looks ugly to me. I reckon these are all pretty petty as far as complaints go and chances are I'll still give this game a try, but I'm not feeling very optimistic about it anymore but again, that's probably down to the fact that I really prefer games like CoH, whereas C&C style gameplay just feels kinda dated to me nowadays. The thing that I would like to see brought back/rebooted in C&C is -not- so much the gameplay as it is the scenarios actually.

Always the sceptical, MARS, or?
But yes they try a bit so much.

Obviously going to buy this one for my steam.

also
1. US Army
2. Cartel
3. Chimera

My personal ranks for the factions. Cartel was gonna be my #1 but it's high learning curve drove me away.

So the Open Beta's finally out and the Chimera and the US, as well as the game are looking good.
While I'm gonna hold off until the Cartel is added and then dive in, I'm really liking how it's looking and TotalBiscuit and others have really enjoyed it so far.
I was wondering if anyone else gave it a try and what their thoughts were?

I've tried it. It's very resource-management-heavy. I expected something like Act of War or C&C Generals, but it doesn't play like either. It plays similar to Company of Heroes, but... worse.

Chimera infantry are significantly overpowered for their cost - they're a basic infantry unit that are *the best* anti-infantry infantry, to the point where other infantry can't even fire a shot before being killed. Bases can be captured immediately after game start by basic infantry (and, really, most infantry), meaning that if you're playing anything other than Chimera, you need static anti-infantry defenses throughout your base VERY early - and if you're Chimera, putting down a dude or two is good enough.

As soon as mechanized units are available, there's no reason to build more infantry. Infantry can no longer be stationed on top of buildings, and there's no crew-served weapons, which means that anti-tank in a building is limited to your standard rocket infantry. The lack of snipers means that buildings can't be "safely" taken, they have to be either captured or bombarded - again, Chimera wins here, because SEALs are required to go toe-to-toe with them, and SEALs require red blocks.

Right. Some things require red blocks. Some things require blue blocks. But you're not allowed to get the red blocks until you're fully tech'd up. You have to fully defend the red blocks, but you can't actually take them until you're tech level 3. It makes it a severe tech and resource management race, since the first person to the red blocks gets the best units.

Say you *do* have the red blocks, and everyone has red blocks. It turns into undifferentiated unit spam, since every faction has one spammable unit (their second-best one) that is linked to their infinite-resource-generation building. It's an awful design choice that turns everything into massed tank destruction, since there's no resource limitations. If games manage to get into late-game, you'll frequently see columns of sixty tanks hit each other and promptly explode.

Artillery has a much more limited role, and limited range.

In short, if you think Act of Aggression looks like something you want to play, but you really liked C&C Generals, you should be playing Act of War: Direct Action.

The only thing to critique is that all three factions have merican equipment, and two of them russian equipment. Too much merica there.

Though from what I understand, the Cartel is made up of cancelled/stolen designs from other parts of the world. At least it isn't as extreme as it was with Act of War where one faction was the US and another was...the US but more high-tech.

Thats correct, but for chimera i wished they replaced the Valor helicopter, Crusher drone, and stinger/ATGM upgrades for some of their units with european or asian equivalents, of which there are many,
like the AW609 with is also a tiltrotor helicopter, and the Da Gou, a chinese copy of the LSSS drone. For the stingers i would replace them with Mistral, and HOT as ATGMs, and for the SAS sniper they could do it with the RT-20 as heavy AM rifle.

Hmmm I like the look of the Cartel, I want to get my hands on them and have a play.

Cartel Faction Gameplay Video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-_VFnLAaak

Some of their tech actually looks pretty cool. I don't like how unoriginal the concept is though.

So I just tried my first skirmish game as USA vs Cartel and as hard as I'm trying to like the game - I can't, sorry.
First, even the smallest available map feels way too large with so much empty, unused terrain that travelling cross country is tedious. The scale, coupled with the intended zoom level already being too high, makes it difficult to identify units at a glance and takes away much of the spectacle. Tech progression seems like a total mess too, with you having to build countless buildings that seem to serve little purpose besides unlocking more and granting an upgrade or two. Games like CoH and ROTR are way better at this, having only a handful of buildings that you need which all retain an important function even after you have purchased their upgrades. The visual language of the base structures is also rather terrible. Everything has this generic realistic look to it which makes it difficult to tell structures apart. Sure, you can identify something like a refinery or a helipad but then you have all these bland looking tech and support buildings, multiple factories and others cluttering up your base that have no defining visual cues whatsoever. I also strongly dislike the resource system as it is time consuming and pointlessly micro-heavy. Having to constantly survey the map with some unit to find deposits of aluminium and rare earth (not a single bit of the latter actually appeared in my game even though I was searching high and low) is just downright bad design in my opinion because it places too much gameplay focus and player attention on something that should be much more straightforward. The battles meanwhile do feel sufficiently like old 90s RTS games in that, at least to me, it all feels really really dated. It all comes down to giant blobs colliding and wiping each other out rapidly based on what feels to be a very Starcrafty hard-counter system, which I personally don't like as it makes the game more about memorising counters of overspecialised units instead of managing them to their maximum effect. I will probably play some more later but for now, my skepticism about the game feels sadly justified.

Not to sound like a smarty, but i knew that even long before the game came out, that it would be that what, just by looking at the prelease screenshots.
Shame that all RTS are the same, tabletop games and plastic soldiers armies (always combine them with fire crackers to blow them up) always beat RTS/RTT anyway.

I was recently playing Act of Aggression; well, I expected a gameplay to flow more smoothly considering that the gameplay of Act of War was already a bit truncated; to my disappointment the Act of Agression missed at the dosage and difficult things in this regard even more. As the MARS said: the maps are huge and manage the resources and expand its base and map control is a mission worthy of the AoE, something that definitely does not suit with modern war RTS games in my opinion.

Occasionally you can find good battles in a skirmish at the cost of a sub-human micro-management (which I particularly dislike - at the least not in this extent), then I say that the game's ideas are good (as in the case of the Act of War), but the dose is exaggerated.

As it seems, there is an update on the way for AoA that alters the gameplay massively. It seems to be much more in line with a potential spiritual successor to Generals.
I let you see for yourself:
AoA Rebooted

This game barely lasted 1 hour in my computer after installing.