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post 3 Feb 2010, 16:07
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This is a thread for ANY and ALL military news or just general...s tongue.gif military talk. So start talking about... The new, the old, the weird and the cool.

Here are some starting points.

Australia

- Unifroms: 01, 02
- Collins Class Submarines: 01, 02

China

- New UAV: 01

EU

- A400m: 01

Russia

- Russian new doctine: 01, 02
- PAK-FA
#1: First flight: 01, 02 #2: RAINOVOSTI spec pic's 01, 02

USA

- F-35
#1: Set backs: 01

This post has been edited by Massey: 4 Oct 2010, 8:24


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Not really except those that want it to remain a lawless place.

In other news:

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After days of anticipation and unheeded warnings from the Obama administration, the huge and controversial data dump from whistle-blower website WikiLeaks is being published and broadcast.
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Wikileaks release: in Russia, fear of damage to future US relations
Will WikiLeaks nudge US toward tougher laws to guard secrets?

As reported by the New York Times (which, along with the British newspaper the Guardian and the German news magazine Der Spiegel, began revealing the data Sunday afternoon), the cache of a quarter-million confidential American diplomatic cables “provides an unprecedented look at backroom bargaining by embassies around the world, brutally candid views of foreign leaders and frank assessments of nuclear and terrorist threats.”

The Guardian reports the leaked information as including: Arab leaders privately urging an air strike on Iran, US officials being instructed to spy on the United Nation's leadership, alleged links between the Russian government and organized crime, “devastating criticism” of British military operations in Afghanistan, and claims of “inappropriate behavior” by a member of the British royal family.

“The cables name countries involved in financing terror groups, and describe a near ‘environmental disaster’ last year over a rogue shipment of enriched uranium,” reports the Guardian. “They disclose technical details of secret US-Russian nuclear missile negotiations in Geneva, and include a profile of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, who they say is accompanied everywhere by a ‘voluptuous blonde’ Ukrainian nurse.”

According to the New York Times, the cables include: “A dangerous standoff with Pakistan over nuclear fuel … gaming out an eventual collapse of North Korea … bargaining to empty the Guantánamo Bay prison … suspicions of corruption in the Afghan government … and a global computer hacking effort” directed by the Chinese Politburo.
The “intriguing alliance” between Putin and Berlusconi

The New York Times reports leaked diplomatic message traffic indicating that “Saudi donors remain the chief financiers of Sunni militant groups like Al Qaeda,” “clashes with Europe over human rights,” and an “intriguing alliance” between Russian prime minister Vladimir Putin and Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi involving “lavish gifts,” lucrative energy contracts and a “shadowy” Russian-speaking Italian go-between.

As the information was being released, the White House called the publication of confidential diplomatic cables "reckless and dangerous,” warning that it could "deeply impact" US interests as well as those of allies and friends.

"To be clear, such disclosures put at risk our diplomats, intelligence professionals, and people around the world who come to the United States for assistance in promoting democracy and open government," presidential press secretary Robert Gibbs said Sunday. "These documents also may include named individuals who in many cases live and work under oppressive regimes and who are trying to create more open and free societies."

"By releasing stolen and classified documents, WikiLeaks has put at risk not only the cause of human rights but also the lives and work of these individuals," Gibbs said. "We condemn in the strongest terms the unauthorized disclosure of classified documents and sensitive national security information."
Secretary Clinton tried to soften the blow

Late last week, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton tried to soften the potentially-embarrassing impact of the leaks by contacting government officials in China, Germany, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Britain, France, and Afghanistan. Canada, Denmark, Norway, and Poland were also warned.

In a letter to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange Saturday, State Department legal adviser Harold Koh said the publication of secret diplomatic cables would "place at risk the lives of countless innocent individuals," ''place at risk on-going military operations," and "place at risk on-going cooperation between countries."

US officials have known for some time that WikiLeaks held the diplomatic cables. No one has been charged with passing them to the website, but suspicion focuses on US Army Pfc. Bradley Manning, an intelligence analyst arrested in June and charged regarding an earlier leak of some 400,000 documents related to the war in Iraq.

Most of the current batch of leaked diplomatic cables go back to 2007, including message traffic from both the Obama and Bush administrations.


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Controversial website WikiLeaks just tweeted that it”s under a “mass distributed denial of service attack” also known as DDoS attacks. This could have been because of the early leak of secret embassy cables through twitter.

The attackers are yet unknown. Signs of a website being attacked are the website not loading at all or loading very slowly. Several sources suggest the website is indeed being attacked but no confirmed report has yet surfaced. The website was attacked a few hours before the release of new secret U.S. documents (Which are now live). These documents contain have secret cables sent by the US State Department.


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- Massey   Military talks   3 Feb 2010, 16:07
- - partyzanPaulZy   well, maybe Gripen wasn't such bad choice in t...   3 Feb 2010, 16:50
- - Wi-Ta   QUOTE (Massey @ 3 Feb 2010, 13:07) i noti...   3 Feb 2010, 17:13
- - D' WRTHBRNGR   Sounds good! And the Gripen, IIRC can land ...   3 Feb 2010, 17:33
- - partyzanPaulZy   well, every small plane and every modern supersoni...   3 Feb 2010, 18:28
- - Massey   On the aussie uniforms. i dont see its as a threat...   10 Feb 2010, 16:30
- - Venom(BR)   RE: Military talks   24 Feb 2010, 2:25
- - D' WRTHBRNGR   PAK-FA's cost makes it more accessible to fore...   24 Feb 2010, 10:52
- - Massey   well going off the flanker for quality i would thi...   24 Feb 2010, 15:23
- - ultimentra   Why the hell would anyone attack ausfailia anyway?...   7 Mar 2010, 21:23
|- - Massey   QUOTE (ultimentra @ 8 Mar 2010, 3:23) Why...   7 Mar 2010, 22:49
- - partyzanPaulZy   Some Pak-Fa photos I found some new interesting p...   7 Mar 2010, 23:15
- - Massey   nice find. but apart from the PC pic's i think...   7 Mar 2010, 23:44
- - partyzanPaulZy   Well, there's also second image from that airp...   8 Mar 2010, 2:26
- - Overdose   Sorry but its likely a shoop. Especially the secon...   8 Mar 2010, 2:36
- - partyzanPaulZy   ... I read it's from Sukhoi's factory airp...   8 Mar 2010, 9:56
- - IPS   cool thing there^^ Hm those pics aren't pho...   7 Apr 2010, 14:40
- - Raven   The pic with the blue plane is rendered. I think i...   8 Apr 2010, 5:02
- - Waris   Also be prepared to shit brix at 5:47   19 Apr 2010, 1:01
- - Overdose   I want one too.   19 Apr 2010, 5:26
- - Ultimate Weapon X   Nice picture in your signature overdose, where is ...   8 May 2010, 23:05
- - MARS   Way to go off-topic, dude. How about you ask him v...   9 May 2010, 11:02
- - Waris   The next iteration of the Type 99, Type 99A2. ...   15 May 2010, 14:56
- - Overdose   Funny China makes a Humvee copy and now an Abraham...   15 May 2010, 16:44
- - Waris   Copying good stuff is okay in my book. That doesn...   15 May 2010, 17:16
- - ΓΛPΤΘΓ   Doesn't looks like a Abrams to me. 125mm gun ...   15 May 2010, 18:59
- - Raven   does not look like an abrams to me tooo   15 May 2010, 22:05
- - partyzanPaulZy   Abrams rip-off? meh... it looks more like T-72 rip...   16 May 2010, 18:50
- - Waris   Bonus:   18 May 2010, 9:57
- - Destiny   What's with the F-35 Lightning II-lookalike?   18 May 2010, 10:37
|- - Waris   QUOTE (Destiny @ 18 May 2010, 15:37) What...   18 May 2010, 11:07
|- - Destiny   QUOTE (Waris @ 18 May 2010, 15:07) ...are...   18 May 2010, 12:54
- - MARS   The reddish hue of the cockpit glass and the dark ...   18 May 2010, 21:19
|- - ΓΛPΤΘΓ   QUOTE (MARS @ 18 May 2010, 18:19) The red...   19 May 2010, 0:05
|- - Destiny   QUOTE (ΓΛPΤΘΓ @ 19 M...   19 May 2010, 2:21
- - Raven   F-35 color scheme somehow reminds me about the B-1...   19 May 2010, 5:29
- - GrizzAFWX   RE: Military talks   19 May 2010, 11:51
|- - D' WRTHBRNGR   Awesome PAK-FA shots. QUOTE (GrizzAFWX @ ...   19 May 2010, 13:33
- - Overdose   I'm pretty sure someone will come up with anti...   19 May 2010, 19:00
- - partyzanPaulZy   Radar Jammer anyone? Anyways, PakFa can deal wi...   19 May 2010, 20:40
- - GrizzAFWX   That pictures was just a joke. Generally I'm ...   19 May 2010, 21:40
- - GrizzAFWX   And they called it... A flying snow shovel... or ...   19 May 2010, 21:44
|- - Destiny   QUOTE (GrizzAFWX @ 20 May 2010, 1:44) And...   20 May 2010, 3:23
|- - GrizzAFWX   QUOTE (Destiny @ 19 May 2010, 18:23) Taci...   20 May 2010, 6:05
|- - Destiny   QUOTE (GrizzAFWX @ 20 May 2010, 10:05) Th...   20 May 2010, 9:25
|- - GrizzAFWX   QUOTE (Destiny @ 20 May 2010, 1:25) You c...   21 May 2010, 7:19
- - Overdose   Looks like an airplane model for a SEGA Saturn gam...   20 May 2010, 4:03
- - Raven   A new PAK-FA video on youtube   20 May 2010, 5:45
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- - Overdose   That's not the whole thing either. Former CI...   26 May 2010, 5:42
|- - Waris   QUOTE (Overdose @ 26 May 2010, 10:42) Why...   26 May 2010, 14:08
- - Overdose   I wasn't even aware that happened. Well, it ha...   26 May 2010, 14:24
- - Raven   QUOTE (Overdose @ 26 May 2010, 8:42) Anyw...   26 May 2010, 22:01
- - partyzanPaulZy   This ^ + The US Army is in Afghanistan and Iraq, s...   27 May 2010, 16:28
- - Waris   in b4 >Panzer Fast   29 May 2010, 17:27
- - ΓΛPΤΘΓ   Interesting "read", thanks.   29 May 2010, 19:34
- - MARS   in b4 >Panzer Fast That's almost as b...   29 May 2010, 19:38
|- - ΓΛPΤΘΓ   QUOTE (MARS @ 29 May 2010, 16:38) in b4 ...   29 May 2010, 19:49
- - Destiny   We call them tanks, not panzers   30 May 2010, 1:18
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- - Overdose   Type 64 pistol looks sexy.   31 May 2010, 14:39
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- - Massey   First off sry for the doulbe post but given the ti...   4 Nov 2010, 4:40
- - MARS   In b4 Entente Cordiale.   4 Nov 2010, 10:16
- - Overdose   In other news Cruzex was hosted for the 5th time. ...   7 Nov 2010, 8:33
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- - Waris   ok wut http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsi...   10 Nov 2010, 6:55
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- - Massey   A few notes here today. Afgan! Just heard th...   22 Nov 2010, 0:37
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- - MARS   Eventually, North Korea, in its constant endeavour...   23 Nov 2010, 21:02
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- - Overdose   I think its permanent. The Militia is very sneaky ...   28 Nov 2010, 6:32
- - Raven   Unless you go out in full force it won't be ea...   28 Nov 2010, 14:01
- - Overdose   Not really except those that want it to remain a l...   28 Nov 2010, 19:21
- - Raven   I managed to access the site this morning. Its ver...   29 Nov 2010, 5:03
- - Серг   Yeah, heard it on the news. I am absolutely intere...   29 Nov 2010, 18:06
- - Massey   In spirect of the US-SK games in the yellow sea. ...   30 Nov 2010, 0:25
|- - MARS   QUOTE (Massey @ 29 Nov 2010, 21:25) If th...   30 Nov 2010, 9:31
- - Raven   If ever there in attack on NK I hardly believe it ...   30 Nov 2010, 3:57
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- - dangerman1337   IIRC isn't there plans for a NK invasion for S...   30 Nov 2010, 23:21
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- - MARS   Like I said earlier, they did a lot of things in t...   1 Dec 2010, 7:37
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- - MARS   Some of both actually. On the one hand, I can sort...   2 Dec 2010, 8:56
|- - Raven   QUOTE (MARS @ 2 Dec 2010, 10:56) Some of ...   3 Dec 2010, 3:40
- - Overdose   Spread of misinformation is common tactic by intel...   3 Dec 2010, 4:56
- - Raven   I found this very interesting article on Fox.   3 Dec 2010, 9:45
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