RotR 1.85, In your opinion... Options

[TimeBurner]

Post what you think of the new version of RotR here. You can also point out things you like and you dont like in the latest version!

The conscript and RPG conscripts voice is rather goofy and annoying than serious and cool.But,over all the new version is great and desirable,especially the new toys!

[X1Destroy]

The new Jagdmammut and Harrier voices.........I say they're terrible. Really. The old Harrier voice is much better.

RPG conscript too.

But the Pioneer, I just love it.

This post has been edited by X1Destroy: 5 Apr 2015, 6:37

[Skitt]

i like it.

the biggest thing im getting used to now is the AI
takeing on 3 brutals used to be easy.

now i just get Generals powerd to death every time.

In perticular trying to get used to takeing out a brutal gla
past 3 times iv fought them iv had to put up with them ignoring all the other AI's comeing straight for me with spammed rocket buggys and the MLRS they have (forgot its name bdrm or summit)
both with quad cannon and ural escorts

[Rushing Rasputin]

AI ATM in general is really laggy to play. (Well not really laggy, but when you are used to play with 60 speed it becomes a tad bit slower)

Oh I also dont like some of the new voices like the Conscripts. Gotta say that I prefer the Harrier's old voice. Other than that, great release.

[TimeBurner]

Yeah, I checked the other factions. I am not also satisfied with the new voices.

[Skitt]

for the AI and lag.
Dont play on skirmish.
play on network either on swr or not.
the AI does not lag in network games only in skirmish games

[TimeBurner]

great tips!

[M.P]

All voices are perfect, except for RPG conscript. I like the Kodiak voice, it's really nice, and it's my fav tank ofc

[Graion Dilach]

I can feel the love.

[Rushing Rasputin]

for the AI and lag.
Dont play on skirmish.
play on network either on swr or not.
the AI does not lag in network games only in skirmish games

Really? I will test this out ATM. Thanks for the tip btw.

[TimeBurner]

Also mismatches are really becoming constant during matches on swr.net.

[The_Hunter]

play on network either on swr or not.

Don't play single player on swr.net by yourself because if we see someone making continued use of SWR.Net for that we can and will ban you from the network.
You're just wasting networking power from the server by doing that.

[nikitazero678]

Version 1.85 is really the best and never gets me bored. I also see that the tooltips have improved better (following the format I used in my ShW fan patch), but still not good enough, so I'm planning to make an aesthetic fan patch for RoTR 1.85 that improves the tooltips, adding selection voices to tech buildings and some minor sound changes.

[ComradeCrimson]

Only thing I don't understand is what people dislike about the normal conscript voice- the old one wasn't serious either

Is it because its somewhat higher pitched? Twas due to the character that, was supposed to be a younger guy.

Give me feedback folks, I could try a polished version out.

[markp]

Pre-release I didn't think the Venom protocol would be much fun. I stand corrected ... especially after I figured out I could build both Venom units at the same time.

I play mostly against (brutal) AI. Have had a blast going in and wiping out AI bases with my Venom units w/ occasional AA support (level-3 bulldogs, wotans).

NOTE: Haven't had a chance/desire to try out the other factions, yet.

This post has been edited by markp: 5 Apr 2015, 22:38

[Alexhandr]

Why in the hell are people bothered by silly voices? It's Command and Conquer. Do you guys forget what series this is? None of this is supposed to serious. Everyone is stereotyped. Everyone is poked at. It's all silly, it's all not serious. It's a video game. I love all the funny quips and remarks and new voices. It's great. My favorite is "magical scaffold, appear!" from the Russian dozer. Keep up the excellent work, SWR team! I love it! Have a Happy Easter!

[Battle Bee]

If I had a few complaints about the voice acting in the mod, one would be that the lines can go on for... quite a while.
Like the Recycler's "Fireball wizard" line. Or the Panzerfeust's "Literally heavy" line.

There's also the Mortar Track, who sounds... not very good at all, I'm afraid. I think he's trying to sound like a badass, but comes off as an awkward, cringe-y old man.
And IIRC he's the only unit in the game to use swear words. I'm not offended or anything, but it is quite annoying.

Otherwise, though, I really like the humor and the references - I also do approve of the use of dank memes.


The actual mod itself; it's perfect. Like, literally perfect. I'm trying really hard to complain about something, but I can't.
The only problems I have with it are related to the limitations of the vanilla game, and the voice acting.

This post has been edited by Battle Bee: 5 Apr 2015, 23:55

[Kommandant Karis...]

The voice acting is a mixed bag for me. Some are awesome, like the Shenlong and the Recycler. Some are good, like the Han Gunship and the Marksman FAC. Some are meh, like the Golem Tank and the RPG Conscript (sorry Graion ><). And then some are ... the Sentinel tank. Sorry to whoever voiced that, I just ... really don't like the way it sounds. ._.

And then some like the Hunter Killer and the Venom aren't necessarily bad, but it's kind of hard to hear what they're saying in the middle of combat, especially when alternating between two or more of them ... that's when they just start talking over each other. ><


Aside from voice acting stuff, the only real complaint I have right now is that the Medium AI builds superweapons a bit too fast, but hey, at least they're helping me rank up faster since I keep having to nuke theirs with my own. xD

This post has been edited by Kommandant Karisse: 6 Apr 2015, 0:04

[{Lads}RikerZZZ]

Only thing I don't understand is what people dislike about the normal conscript voice- the old one wasn't serious either

Is it because its somewhat higher pitched? Twas due to the character that, was supposed to be a younger guy.

Give me feedback folks, I could try a polished version out.

The script and tone are fine, its just the raspyness of the voice. Tbh, it makes it sound like all the conscripts are crazy physcopaths, when the idea behind them was that they were the every-man. The idea is that they are your average bloke who was fighting because he was told to, and ironically the funny RA3 conscript voice worked really well in that regard.
I feel the RPG conscript also haves this problem.

My suggestion would be just re-record it and make it less raspy, then it would be perfect
As i said, the script and tone is fine, so that's the only thing holding it back

[Alexhandr]

Russia is overpowered as all get out. Seriously. They need a serious damn nerf. I 1v1, that's what I do, and I 1v1 my fiancee who plays Russia. I TEST. THOROUGHLY. Russia is stupidly, obnoxiously, horrendously good at every damn thing imaginable. ECA are trash against them. Useless. Absolute garbage. China can defeat them if they do a really fast troop crawler/infantry rush, and that's it. I'm currently testing many, many games of America, then I will play GLA. But as of this moment, Russia stomps over ECA, mid and late game China, and America. I love the factions. I love the work put into this game. And I'm an avid 1v1 player, and right now, Russia is king.

[Composite armour]

Russia is overpowered as all get out. Seriously. They need a serious damn nerf. I 1v1, that's what I do, and I 1v1 my fiancee who plays Russia. I TEST. THOROUGHLY. Russia is stupidly, obnoxiously, horrendously good at every damn thing imaginable. ECA are trash against them. Useless. Absolute garbage. China can defeat them if they do a really fast troop crawler/infantry rush, and that's it. I'm currently testing many, many games of America, then I will play GLA. But as of this moment, Russia stomps over ECA, mid and late game China, and America. I love the factions. I love the work put into this game. And I'm an avid 1v1 player, and right now, Russia is king.

Can you post any evidence to support this at all?
I have no idea how you can see Russia as overpowered.

[{Lads}RikerZZZ]

Russia is overpowered as all get out. Seriously. They need a serious damn nerf. I 1v1, that's what I do, and I 1v1 my fiancee who plays Russia. I TEST. THOROUGHLY. Russia is stupidly, obnoxiously, horrendously good at every damn thing imaginable. ECA are trash against them. Useless. Absolute garbage. China can defeat them if they do a really fast troop crawler/infantry rush, and that's it. I'm currently testing many, many games of America, then I will play GLA. But as of this moment, Russia stomps over ECA, mid and late game China, and America. I love the factions. I love the work put into this game. And I'm an avid 1v1 player, and right now, Russia is king.

Not. At. All.
The factions are very balanced atm. Change your strategies.
As ECA you need to go out of your base and be agressive to get map control.
As USA learn how to us AT drones and Microwave tanks
As china, lean how to use EMP, and micro your tanks efficiently.
As GLA, just out maneuver them with tunnels.

[Alexhandr]

My friends, Russia IS overpowered. You can say as much as you want, defend ECA as much as you want, but any decent player of Russia is going to stomp over ECA. I am posting this now, and later on edit all the evidence and everything I have done to prove this to you. These are not baseless accusations. My fiancee and I are both excellent strategy gamers, and I am actually more experienced in C&C than she is. She admits that I am a better player, yet nothing I do can stop a Russian deathball, and believe me sirs (and any madams) that I have tried. From five this evening until now (10:30) we have played non-stop games. None of them last longer than ten minutes because there is nothing you can do to stop it once the ball is there, and ECA can do little to prevent it.

Expect something of an essay to be posted here later on tonight. If you want replays, I will play more games, save those, and upload them, showcasing that I know what I am doing, and these are not baseless accusations thrown about. There is serious need for balancing here. I'm not criticizing because I dislike the mod. I love the mod, but it has flaws. Right now, ECA is in need of a buff, Russia of a nerf. These are all 1v1's. Whatever you say about team games, I do not know, I cannot comment on that.

My fiancee has SWR.net but whenever she or I or anyone else gets into the game, the loading bar on everyone else's screen, but hers, moves. On my screen, her bar and mine moves, on her screen, only her bar moves. Then the game disconnects. If anyone can figure out why this might be happening, please let me know so my fiancee and I can play on SWR.net with everyone else. If a fix cannot be found, I have a hamachi that anyone can join. She invites anyone that thinks they can defeat Russia to 1v1 her. We both would like to either prove, or, be disproven.

This post has been edited by Alexhandr: 6 Apr 2015, 4:13

[Shockwavelover84]

Yeah, I checked the other factions. I am not also satisfied with the new voices.

Keep in mind most of the 'old voices' were stock voicework from games like Red Alert 2 and 3; most of the new voices were recorded by the team themselves.

So expecting them to be on-par with professional recordings is a bit too demanding considering this is a fan project, not a commercial game.

Most of the new voices I liked; the only ones which I'd really like to see improved are the Viper voice (which sounds too tired), and the Chapparel voice (which is too squeaky). The memes I'm not fond of either because I don't like to mentally associate 4chan related stuff with the game, but then again it's not my mod is it?

Only thing I don't understand is what people dislike about the normal conscript voice- the old one wasn't serious either

Is it because its somewhat higher pitched? Twas due to the character that, was supposed to be a younger guy.

Give me feedback folks, I could try a polished version out.

Don't have a problem with the new conscript voice, I like it better than the old RA3 voice.

This post has been edited by Shockwavelover84: 6 Apr 2015, 4:09

[X1Destroy]

The old harrier voice is already a custom made one and not from RA. It was fine. The new one, seriously WTF? The change in tone is just...........

The Jagdmammut voice too, can we have a tone similar to the old RA2 Tank Destroyer voice? The lines are fine.

I have no problem with the conscript voice, it's excellent. But RPG conscript voice, I think it's more like for an American than a Russian unit.

I really like the Pioneer and Sentinel voice. They're awesome.

This post has been edited by X1Destroy: 6 Apr 2015, 4:38